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	nam_jai 2009-03-15 03:03 pm UTC (link)
	And, conversely, how the most hysterical animal defenders seem incapable of reading a dog's body language. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lied_ohne_worte 2009-03-15 05:54 pm UTC (link)
	But OMG, it's being humiliated! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	nam_jai 2009-03-15 07:25 pm UTC (link)
	Oh yes, can't you just see the shame written (literally!) all over her ~~sleepy, completely relaxed~~ face? Her doggie dignity, it is mortally wounded. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	luthe 2009-03-16 06:20 am UTC (link)
	Dogs have no dignity. Dogs need no dignity. Cats, on the other hand... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	napalmnacey 2009-03-17 05:03 am UTC (link)
	Don't have any dignity either, considering they lick their own assholes. LOL! I'm a cat-lover, and my little cat is a huge doof. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dragonfangirl 2009-03-15 07:02 pm UTC (link)
	I never do get that. Have they ever actually been in contact with an animal? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	serai 2009-03-16 03:15 am UTC (link)
	Really! I look at that dog and think, "Wow, he's really in love." He looks blissed out. Dogs for the most part are happy to be children's slaves. It's in their frigging DNA, for gods' sakes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	brown_betty 2009-03-16 08:27 am UTC (link)
	Well, I look at the dog and think, "That's a she." But other than that, yeah, that is not an unhappy dog. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	napalmnacey 2009-03-17 05:04 am UTC (link)
	She looks like a very content dog to me. They look like wonderful friends. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2009-03-15 08:17 pm UTC (link)
	Right? That dog isn't upset in the least. (Reply to this)(Parent)

chibikaijuu
2009-03-15 09:45 pm UTC (link)

This is what I never understand. You OMG LOVE ANIMALS but you don't appear to have the slightest clue how to read their body language or what is or isn't dangerous for them, and you refuse to listen to people who actually work with animals and know what they're talking about.

That and the ascribing human emotions to animals that don't have them. Dogs do have a sense of shame/humiliation, but it's not triggered by them looking funny, because they do not care about their appearance. And they're colorblind. That pink poodle doesn't even know he's pink, and neither do any of the other dogs at the dog park, FFS. (There was actually wank about a dyed-pink poodle, yes.)

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	ninwhore 2009-03-15 10:02 pm UTC (link)
	it's not triggered by them looking funny I'm not so sure about that. Once when my mom gave our Chow/Golden Retriever mix a home shave and for some reason trimmed her tail into a square shape, that dog didn't want to be seen by anyone until some of it grew back. She would go outside and hide under the porch. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

chibikaijuu
2009-03-15 10:35 pm UTC (link)

Changes to the tail can make a difference, yeah. Ears and tails are used to signal emotions and needs to other animals (and people, if they can read them correctly), so a change there could certainly freak them out. And any change they notice or is traumatizing (like being taken to the groomers if they've never been before) can make them get upset and hide. But really, they don't care if they're blue or wearing a t-shirt because of how it looks.

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	irised 2009-03-16 12:09 am UTC (link)
	Hahah, it wasn't just our dog then! We had a newfoundland/border collie cross who we used to shave for the summer and every time he came back with his new haircut he was pissed off/embarrassed/sulking for the whole day. Just used to sit up on one side of the lawn staring away from us/the house. (Reply to this)(Parent)

hallidae
2009-03-16 12:35 am UTC (link)

Oh, god, that reminds me of what happened to a cat we were taking care of for a friend. No matter how much we brushed her, she would get the most godawful snarls in her fur (longhair, joy), and in her tail got so bad that we had to take her to the vet. They wound up shaving from her butt to about an inch from the tip of her tail, leaving her with a poodle puff. When Muffin brought her home, she slunk out of the carrier, then ran off and hid under one of the beds for almost a week. We had to shove a litterbox and her food and water bowls under there, because we couldn't get her out for anything.

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	cmdr_zoom 2009-03-16 08:17 am UTC (link)
	"I cannot be seen in my shame." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rachel_pi 2009-03-19 06:54 pm UTC (link)
	My dog had to wear one of the Elizabethan collar things (I think it was when she got spayed) and she would only go for walks at 3 or 4 in the morning. She wouldn't go out at all during daylight (except very briefly into the backyard). (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jat_sapphire 2009-03-16 12:01 am UTC (link)
	I admit an early reaction of mine to that pic was "Oh, poor dog," because I was thinking ahead to the BATH that probably closely followed this incident. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chibikaijuu 2009-03-16 12:19 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that did go through my head, but not all dogs hate baths, so I just hoped that was so for this one. (And now I am thinking about the big, hairy dog I met at the vet's yesterday, who decided it would be a grand plan to jump into Stow Lake (which is man-made and rather gross), and yet, hates baths, which he had just caused himself to desperately need.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

_goblin_
2009-03-18 07:34 pm UTC (link)

A friend of my mom's had two Afghan hounds, one that had been a showdog and the other that was kinda wonky-looking (the breeder made the woman promise never to breed him.)

One summer, it was horribly hot, so the woman had the dogs shaved.

The wonky-looking dog loved it. The former showdog, however, refused to leave the house for several months and hid whenever guests came over.

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