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so_long42 ([info]so_long42) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-03-25 01:58:00


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Wesleyan University Wank
So, there's this group on the campus of Wesleyan University (in CT) called Eclectic. They used to be a fraternity, but went co-ed, and subsequently were forcibly separated from their alumni association when they burned "fuck the alums" into the lawn of their house. They are famous for having sold all of their furniture for cocaine, and also for throwing awesome concerts and large sweaty all-campus dance parties (which themselves are famous for the MDMA present).

Naturally, a place like that is going to cause some problems. Namely, they have been shut down for the semester. The reason this is exciting is because Wesleyan is a very web 2.0 campus, with both an active student run blog (linked above) and a super-active Anonymous Confession Board, the latter of which has a lot to say. A TON. Opinions. Conspiracy theories.
Jokes.

There is of course a segment of campus that is outraged, and a
petition is circulated. Even people who claim to be unassociated have strong pro-Ecletic, anti-student government opinions.
However, people are skeptical that Eclectic is in the right. They remain unconvinced weeks later.

Eventually, outrage dies down and the zeitgeist shifts, so the Sound Co-Op, which provides cheap PA systems and setup for the whole campus (and is populated primarily by Eclectic members), decides that they be boycotting the ENTIRE CAMPUS until Eclectic is served justice (i.e. reopened without consequence). General sentiment is that this is ridiculous and calculated. Meanwhile, there is a lot of very deep-cut Wesleyan handwringing about our reputation as an "activist" status.

ETA: And the petition is now closed due to "spam," ie trolling (no, I'm not concerned that it was anyone here).


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[info]bigbigtruck
2009-03-25 03:10 pm UTC (link)
web 2.0

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.

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[info]stromatolite
2009-03-25 03:54 pm UTC (link)
Still not sure, but I think it's a general term for all of the internet except those Geocities pages that play midi files.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2009-03-25 04:26 pm UTC (link)
I am pretty sure it involves gradients and drop shadows somehow.

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[info]plazmah
2009-03-25 05:30 pm UTC (link)
And shiny buttons with round edges.

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[info]mcity
2009-03-25 07:30 pm UTC (link)
And those webpages that can deliver new content without actually going to a new page.

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tree
2009-03-25 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Isn't that just Ajax?

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2009-03-26 01:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]willywanka, 2009-03-28 01:01 am UTC

[info]rennyn_alerothi
2009-03-28 08:06 am UTC (link)
I was gonna second everyone who mentioned AJAX, but this is the best answer I've heard yet, because it's exactly what comes to mind.

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-03-25 04:30 pm UTC (link)
Not to go all serious on you or anything, but from what I can gather by how it was used in the classes I was taking a few years back, 'web 2.0' refers specifically to internet/world wide web services which allow for and are mostly driven by user input. Wikipedia, librarything, twitter, del.icio.us, flickr, any of the journaling sites, etc. as opposed to websites that are say, 90% presented information and maybe 10% user discussion, if that.

But I could be totally wrong. It's always been used in an "of course you know what this means" way.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2009-03-25 05:00 pm UTC (link)
See, that's the first description I've read that makes sense.

(Disclosure: I work in design, so the phrase "web 2.0" ranks up there with "make it pop" and "just use comic sans" in the rage-inducement category)

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-03-25 05:19 pm UTC (link)
It ranks up there with "agency" for me when it comes to terminology used too often to mean things other than what I think it's supposed to mean. Overusing a term and applying it to everything under the sun just makes it lose all relevant meaning and it drives me nuts.

But used to differentiate user-driven web content from third party web content, it actually has a purpose.

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[info]aliaras
2009-03-25 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Aaaagh, "agency" is so annoying. Best moment ever was when a class of mine was discussing Roman paintings of women from the Iliad, people were throwing around "agency", and my friend pwned them all with basically "that word does not mean what you think it means, stfu, we could be talking about rocks for all anyone cares." And then the class kept using the word. Inappropriately.

Ahem. Sorry for tangent.

(My own full disclosure: I'm at one of those little liberal arts colleges in which some percentage of the student body feels the need to be ~intellectual~)

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-03-25 06:36 pm UTC (link)
I went to a women's liberal arts college and was an English major. I think 2/3 of the senior theses written in my year had the word 'agency' in the subtitles.

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(no subject) - [info]aliaras, 2009-03-25 06:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-25 06:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aliaras, 2009-03-25 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-25 07:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aliaras, 2009-03-25 07:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-25 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2009-03-26 07:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]adevyish, 2009-03-26 09:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-26 01:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]blue_penguin, 2009-03-26 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2009-03-27 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luthe, 2009-03-26 07:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-26 01:08 pm UTC
Spinning off into tangent land
[info]fruce
2009-03-26 08:27 am UTC (link)
Ooh, I've had one of those, too. Except it was a discussion of the portrayal of religion in literature- specifically, The Handmaid's Tale. The class was using "resistance" and "transgression" in ways that would probably make anyone with a basic understanding of social theories (or the power to contemplate what you're saying before you say it) shrivel up inside.

(Ditto the disclosure, except ~intellectual~ is frequently overlaid with ~activist~.)

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[info]keleri
2009-03-25 05:57 pm UTC (link)
DIE COMIC SANS DIE DIE DIE

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[info]adevyish
2009-03-25 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Have some stickers.

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[info]doomsday
2009-03-26 07:24 am UTC (link)
NOT SO FAST, RANSOM!

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(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2009-03-28 01:55 pm UTC

[info]hallidae
2009-03-25 06:50 pm UTC (link)
Comic Sans and Helvetica. RAWR.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2009-03-26 01:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2009-03-26 06:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]felinephoenix, 2009-03-28 01:58 am UTC
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[info]felinephoenix
2009-03-28 01:56 am UTC (link)
Hi, I also work in design and I feel your pain. I try to think of Web 2.0 in terms of what it does for users, though, not a certain look.

mostly because I've started to hate that "Web 2.0" look SO MUCH

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[info]vzg
2009-03-28 01:44 pm UTC (link)
...People actually want comic sans? Really? D: D: D:

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[info]adevyish
2009-03-25 06:09 pm UTC (link)
I have a very strong association of the term "Web 2.0" with "AJAX", and AJAX used improperly and rampantly does not make my computer happy.

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2009-03-25 06:37 pm UTC (link)
I've never heard that term. My mind immediately went to the cleaning powder, which would be very bad for a computer, indeed.

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[info]adevyish
2009-03-26 05:11 am UTC (link)
It's all those pages that update without you pressing refresh - Flickr and Delicious were among the first widespread AJAX-based sites, and Facebook is a very good example of AJAX gone wrong.

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(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-03-26 05:13 am UTC

tree
2009-03-25 09:01 pm UTC (link)
IMO, web content that users can sorta manipulate by tagging and commenting and whatnot. Any part of the www that has more reader input than actual content.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2009-03-25 10:25 pm UTC (link)
Or, the point when people realized that they could make more money by just providing a space and letting the users make all their content for them.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2009-03-26 08:15 am UTC (link)
FanLib!

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