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meagenimage ([info]meagenimage) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-04-22 13:06:00


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Entry tags:food

Bakery wank, anyone?
Okay, this is small, but full of delicious WTF. It's also entirely in Polish - luckily for you all, it's my native language, and thus I can offer you a full translation!

A bit of background: I'm moving to Scotland this summer, my fiance will be attending the University of Dundee, so we're hoping to get a small place together. Last time I was in Scotland for longer than a month, I started really missing Polish-style bread, so I'm wondering if there's anywhere I could get that while I'm in Dundee without having to resort to my family mailing me some.

A quick Google search brings me to Emito.net, a community website for Polish immigrants in the UK. From there, a search for "dundee bakery" finds me this discussion thread.

All smallcaps and giant leaps of logic were faithfully preserved from the original.


o o: looking for confectionery or bakery in dundee

as above,is there a polish bakery in dundee?

cropa: no. Dundee is a town in Scotland as is nowhere as close to Kalisz as you might think. they have a shitload of scottish bakeries and confectioneries, but no polish ones - sorry

o o: thanks,scottish cakes don't taste half as good as polish

cropa: okay.

I don't want to argue, because if someone never leaves tesco and has no friends in Dundee they can't know where to go on sunday for a good cake or ice-cream. But, ah well. If someone assumes scotsmen are dumb and can't do anything right, then... there's no point. The fact is, I know good bakeries in poznan, but I also know lousy ones. The same goes over here. I think you should look for some friends who have a similar worldview.

gabrino ...: @cropa - What are you so offended about? OP never said scotsmen were dumb or couldn't do anything right, Just wanted to know if there was a polish bakery in dundee ( there might be, right? ) and he has the right to have his own opinion when he says he prefers polish cakes. I prefer polish bread but I don't think scotsmen can't produce anything good. On the contrary I think their sweets are very good

Just a small note

cropa: I never said OP said scotsmen are dumb.

gabrino ...: OK, you're riht . I expressed it badly . but you implied he thinks that when you wrote : quote "But, ah well. If someone assumes scotsmen are dumb and can't do anything right, then...

cropa: exactly - i stated my opinion. i think if they open polish bakeries etc. here there won't be any point in promoting poland as a tourist destination. dunno - maybe i'm wrong.

gabrino ...: then maybe you should start a new thread on emito titled: polish bakeries in dundee vs. promotion of polish touristry in poland .. And vent your frustration that way. In general I find your comment to be very rude
Because this thread seems to be about whether ther eis or isn't a polish bakery in dundee. Because OP likes polish cakes. I don't think there's any more to it than that.

cropa: I think otherwise and a difference in opinion is cause for a discussion.

gabrino ...: but o o didn't express any opinion. He just said he likes polish cakes. That id not an opinion ,that is a matter of what he likes or not. i don't think you should discuss that. like you don't discuss tastes. You like it or not, that's it. I'm not going to try to convince anyone how awesome chocolote icecraem is , if someone likes say berry. And it's also not a reason for some political discussion.

cropa: scottish cakes don't taste half as good as polish

this isn't an opinion?

sorry, it doesn't add up

gabrino ...: all right, I won't drag out this discussion any more, it leads nowhere But I'm sure you'll agree that your comment wasn't the nicest in the world. And generally that's my main beef. Even if you want to state your opinion, it would be cool if you could do it in a nice way. And if you think the answer you wrote is perfectly ok, then think of how other people talk to you. if this is normal for you

cropa: i'll agree it wasn't the nicest - but i don't think everything has to always be written nicely


And so, that baffling aside done, the rest of the thread proceeds on the original topic, someone recommends a Polish baker who does cakes on demand, and I find out that apparently Polish bread can be found in most large supermarkets in Dundee. Score!



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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2009-04-22 05:14 pm UTC (link)
I don't even know what Polish bread is, but now I want some.

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[info]meagenimage
2009-04-22 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I call it "Polish bread" to mean "the kind of bread I'm used to eating in Poland". It looks like this. It's a lot more dense than most of the stuff I could find when I was in Scotland.

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tree
2009-04-23 06:21 pm UTC (link)
Wait, that's a loaf of bread. What am I missing? Is there no normal bread like that in Scotland?

/is Croatian

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[info]winter
2009-04-22 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Leavened bread, mostly. Fun fact: in any Polish grocery, you'll get a choice of at least 10-12 kinds of bread and rolls - and not just different shapes/brands, but distinct tastes, ingredients etc. For example the Anglosaxon world seems to define rye bread as something akin to cardboard, while for us it's something you can hit a robber on the head with (though unlike dwarf bread, it accomplishes the deed while being delicious).

^- the above thoughts on not!yaoi are an excerpt. I spent 3 months in Ireland trying to find bread that wasn't dyed cotton wool.

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[info]eilan
2009-04-22 06:24 pm UTC (link)
Every time I have been on holiday in the UK now it wasn't a week before I was craving 'real' bread (German in this case, though).

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[info]winter
2009-04-22 06:29 pm UTC (link)
I agree that German bread is quite acceptable :) As are your cured meats, another topics the Brits and Irish simply Do Not Get.

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[info]barankhy
2009-04-22 09:51 pm UTC (link)
acceptable
..."acceptable"? You want some in-house wank right now?
*shoots you the angry Teuton look*

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(no subject) - [info]winter, 2009-04-23 05:51 am UTC

[info]sparkysrevenge
2009-04-22 09:54 pm UTC (link)
They Do Not Get fried chicken, either. Which just baffles me because they fry everything.

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(no subject) - [info]athersgeo, 2009-04-22 10:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-04-23 04:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sparkysrevenge, 2009-04-23 07:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-04-24 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyvyola, 2009-04-24 02:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-04-24 09:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darsynia, 2009-04-27 04:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-04-27 10:27 pm UTC

tree
2009-04-23 06:24 pm UTC (link)
cured meats

... I am going to cry now. I can never explain to my Brit spouse how much I miss those, in proper quality and quantity, when I'm in the UK.

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(no subject) - [info]winter, 2009-04-23 07:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - tree, 2009-04-23 07:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]winter, 2009-04-23 07:42 pm UTC

[info]athersgeo
2009-04-22 10:38 pm UTC (link)
And going the other way, it takes me all of a couple of days to start longing for bread that isn't going to fight back every time I take a bite ;)

Though I might still be bitter from chipping a tooth on a slice of rye bread...

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[info]mael
2009-04-22 10:41 pm UTC (link)
I live in the US. I crave real (Italian, yo) bread every single day. It's tremendously sad.

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[info]floraposte
2009-04-23 12:39 am UTC (link)
Where in the US are you? I can recommend some Italian bakeries in the NE, although depending on what bread you're into, it might still fall short.

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[info]sharps
2009-04-23 04:39 pm UTC (link)
Heh. When I was in Germany I wanted 'real' bread, by which I meant a nice soft wholemeal loaf instead of that curiously chewy stuff that smelt like beer. It was tasty, I'll grant you, but still... what is preventing German bakers from baking a loaf made out of pretzel dough, huh? Something you can actual make a sandwich out of!

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[info]weaselistic
2009-04-24 06:42 pm UTC (link)
... I never have problems finding sandwich-friendly bread. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, though! Is a baguette inacceptable?

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(no subject) - [info]sharps, 2009-04-24 07:54 pm UTC

[info]notarose
2009-04-22 06:33 pm UTC (link)
Your link isn't working for me. That makes me sad, as I enjoy both rye and dwarfs.

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[info]winter
2009-04-22 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Hm, it was just one of the first results for 'razowiec' on Google. Try this?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DDv_8lB3lDU/SazTC1MMJZI/AAAAAAAABCY/dGCn12CK5g0/s320/chelb+o+poranku.jpg

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[info]notarose
2009-04-22 07:12 pm UTC (link)
That bread does look delicious in a blunt object sort of way.

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[info]mary_mac
2009-04-22 06:54 pm UTC (link)
*sigh*

I'm guessing nobody thought to feed you soda bread or proper wheaten then. Or a good batch loaf. Tch.

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[info]winter
2009-04-22 06:59 pm UTC (link)
I did try them. They were better than general shop wool, but only by the virtue of not tasting of plastic. I'm afraid I'm used to bread that has taste.

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(no subject) - [info]mary_mac, 2009-04-22 07:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2009-04-23 01:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mary_mac, 2009-04-23 07:21 am UTC

[info]fionnabhair
2009-05-06 11:39 am UTC (link)
God I miss soda-bread so fucking much. NEarly three years in London and I can't fin it, or any decent brown bread, anywhere. Curse you for reminding me!

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[info]issendai
2009-04-22 09:18 pm UTC (link)
Cotton wool. That's an image to keep.

Do you know how American bread compares to English bread? We have standard mass-produced fluffy bread, but we also have "artisan" breads that have actual heft and flavor, and in the absence of Polish bakeries, I'm wondering if these would do.

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[info]winter
2009-04-22 09:22 pm UTC (link)
I've managed to repress memories of what "bread" was like during my brief stay in Minneapolis. Judging by comments below I think it depends on the given area's cultural influences - Scandinavian and German people seem to have a decent idea about bread, judging by how much sympathy I found among other international students in Ireland ;)

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-04-22 09:55 pm UTC
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[info]innocentsmith
2009-04-24 06:22 am UTC (link)
I suspect it depends largely on what region of the US?

Speaking as a Californian, good freshly baked sourdough is the best of all possible breads. (Well, leavened breads, anyway. Handmade corn tortillas win for the unleavened category.)

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[info]also_not_a_pipe
2009-04-22 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, that looks delicious.

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[info]serai
2009-04-23 02:27 pm UTC (link)
It's the bread they eat in Poland, but that's not important right now.

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