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	Might get some negative feedback on this, but... wrongly_amused 2009-08-03 08:51 pm UTC (link)
	Provided they don't have excepting health or lifestyle factors that preclude weight loss, people need to accept the reality that they are in control of their own body. If you're happy being fat, be happy. If not, make the change. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... deadwood 2009-08-03 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	WHAT? I'm in control of my body!? YOU LYING LIAR. Also yeah. I could diet and exercise, but exercise is boring and dieting means less bread and potatoes so NO THANK YOU. I'll stick with my 50lbs too much and just enjoy the fact that I can use my chest as a pillow if necessary. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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sneer
2009-08-03 09:57 pm UTC (link)

Good golly, yes! And if you eat healthy food and exercise for 30-60 minutes four or five times a week and still wear a double-digit pants/dress size, well, you just aren't trying hard enough! Because after all, you're in complete control of your own body!

I think some people need to accept the reality that they need to mind their own fucking business about other peoples' weight.

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sandglass
2009-08-03 10:26 pm UTC (link)

Dieting doesn't work in the long term and in fact probably makes people weigh more. I'm in control of my behaviors and I will own my behaviors being imperfect, but "controlling my body" would require starvation and overexercising. No, fuck you, there's no reason to get skinny other than to meet society's sick beauty ideals.

Someone get me a towel, but I cannot stand this stupid fatphobic misinformation.

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... ecchaniz0r 2009-08-03 10:29 pm UTC (link)
	SCREAMS WITH LAUGHTER Oh, do tell another one! loud, obnoxious clapping and big stupid grin Now I'll wait for you to climb up on that cross there - because I know you wanna, there's no other reason for a stupid little 'zinger' like this - and then I'll heave water balloons full of Jell-O at you. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... judyhazeleyes 2009-08-03 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	... ... nah. I'm not even giving you the satisfaction. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... thoms 2009-08-03 10:49 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, fuck you. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... deliciouschaos 2009-08-03 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	...might? (Reply to this)(Parent)

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risha
2009-08-04 12:25 am UTC (link)

Sure, anyone can be skinny - but for a lot of people it requires that they permanently subsist at starvation levels and exercise several hours a day. (I know one woman who puts in six hours a day at least six days a week to maintain her weight.) And even then, your body eventually rebels your weight starts to creep up anyway. There's a reason why most people who get "weight loss surgery" (a.k.a. mutilating your stomach and intestines) eventually stablize at obese after the first eighteen months to two years.

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... indis_earfalas 2009-08-04 01:46 am UTC (link)
	Oh no! You said that SOME PEOPLE can control their weight! WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING??? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... sorchar 2009-08-04 03:23 am UTC (link)
	This is where we mock the wank, not bring it. That aside, you're full of shit. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... lyssa 2009-08-04 04:03 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that's nice and all, but "fat" is not always well-defined. I'm built like a dwarf. I'm never gonna be a size four (lol hips), if I weigh 100 lbs I'm probably really, really sick, even though I'm 5'2'' But it doesn't matter, I'll still be "fat." P.S. Thanks, I'm sure us fatties didn't realize this was the way to eternal love and body change. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... dragonfangirl 2009-08-04 04:19 am UTC (link)
	Tell us more. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Read: Full of shit. dez_chan 2009-08-04 04:42 am UTC (link)
	C'mon people, you gotta BELIEVE! CLAP YOUR HANDS! You can control anything! Diabetic? Walk it off! Thyroid disorder? Bah, go to the gym more and put down the cake! Because you know, we're all fat because we sit around eating nothing but cake. You can also make yourself taller if you just tried harder! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... sisterelwood 2009-08-04 05:59 am UTC (link)
	I can't even come up with an appropriate response to this. I'll let Homer speak for me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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white_serpent
2009-08-04 06:37 am UTC (link)

But we're not, you know.

You can make the decision to be in better cardiovascular health. You can make the decision to build muscle mass. Having made those decisions, you can make a change. You can decide to eat less, or to change the composition of your diet. Hell-- you can decide to do all of it.

But the end result of these changes on your weight? You can't control that.

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ymfaery
2009-08-04 10:36 am UTC (link)

You're kind of overlooking the fact that sometimes what makes people appear fat are a) genetics; and/or b) metabolism. I don't consider those "health or lifestyle factors." Some people naturally have fast metabolism that burns up every calorie they put in their mouth and stay thin, while others have slow ones that stores practically everything (as fat, of course).

Also? Losing weight isn't the real problem. Keeping it off is. And even if you decided to stick to SlimFast shakes/products for the rest of your life? Your body adjusts. What you did last week to lose weight may not work this week because your body said, "Ok, new intake factors! Adjusting now!"

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... ashenmote 2009-08-04 11:30 am UTC (link)
	Thank you for solving this complex issue. Can you tackle world peace next? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... meagenimage 2009-08-04 02:27 pm UTC (link)
	I've recently read an article about fat-positivity that I think makes a lot of good points. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Ya THINK? phosfate 2009-08-04 02:37 pm UTC (link)
	Except when they totally aren't. And that includes people who can't put on weight as well. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... cmdr_zoom 2009-08-04 03:50 pm UTC (link)
	"Hey, I wonder what this button does." press (Reply to this)(Parent)

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silrana
2009-08-04 04:38 pm UTC (link)

Well, if it helps any, I can see what you meant. A lot of the responses to you are the stuff my doctor bitch-slapped out of me years ago.

The same old false dichotomies. "I can't lose weight fast, so I may as well not try at all." "Eek, eek, when you say people can lose weight you are telling them they have to be model-anorexic-thin." "I don't have time to work out two hours a day then take a ten mile hike, so it's useless to walk a tenth of a mile to my friend's house instead of drive."

Real change requires exactly that - change. People are right, starving yourself for a couple of months won't do any good. But then they turn it around as an excuse to not make longterm changes in their eating and activity levels, and to accept that real weigh loss takes years, not weeks. And that all works well and good until you have a health crisis, or start to get older, or, like me, both.

Then you find out that your heart doesn't give a crap about your body image, and your lungs don't care at all about your sense of self worth. And your pancreas just laughs at your acceptance of yourself the way you are. Oh, and your hips, knees and ankles? They don't give a flying fuck about you at all.

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	Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but... tachikoma01 2009-08-05 12:26 am UTC (link)
	Yup, those genetically obese mice just need to stop stuffing their faces with mouse food and get on their exercise wheels more often. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	persona 2009-08-05 01:37 am UTC (link)
	Protip: When you're using brain cells enough to feel it necessary to add a disclaimer of 'I might get some negative feedback on this, but...', it's a good sign that you should shut your stupid trap. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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frau_eva
2009-08-06 05:49 am UTC (link)

Providing that you don't have an excepting health factor that precludes you from cosmetic surgery, you need to accept the reality that you are in control of your own ugly face, wrongly_amused. If you're happy being ugly, be ugly. If you're insulted at all by my backhanded bullshit, then I demand you spend exorbitant amounts of money and energy so you can live up to my definition. I mean, otherwise, you're just being lazy.

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