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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-08-03 19:06:00


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Entry tags:otf_wank's thoughts on weight, stop sharing your thoughts

HOW DARE YOU CALL ME FAT
Mars from Chicken Dinner Candybar does her regular Fat Love Friday and includes Marie from Agent Lover.

Marie is put off by her inclusion on a "fat" list and tells Mars so.

Mars offers to take it down. Marie refuses. Instead, she proclaims on her blog, "oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale no!

Chaos ensues in the comments about fatphobia, body acceptance, fashion sense (or the lack thereof), and kissing-up commentors.

Is Marie brave or is she overreacting?

(I'm in the comments and I know Natalie [the 'overreacting' link], so I am slightly involved in the wank aftermath. It's pretty obvious which side i'm on.)



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[info]kelmendi
2009-08-04 01:13 am UTC (link)
I'm loving the commenter who can be summed up as "I am *totally* anti-fat, but I'm still a fantastic person, because I define 'fat' as meaning 'bitch'!"

RECLAIMING WORDS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! See also "That's gay!"

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[info]ardath_rekha
2009-08-04 02:16 am UTC (link)
...I can't even fathom the logic of that statement they made. Are they from this planet???

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[info]kelmendi
2009-08-04 02:34 am UTC (link)
It makes NO SENSE, and yet, I have seen it before (specifically, "If I use 'gay' to mean loser, using it as an insult is totally inoffensive!" and "But I define n***** as meaning *stupid* black people, so it's totally not racist!").

Here's the direct quote:

"I got this rep on certain areas of the internet for being anti-fatty and I stand by it. The way I define “fat” is not a dress size, or how much ass you fit inside them jeans, it’s an attitude, a mind set, a personality.

Fat girls are the ones continuously trying to remind you that real women have curves and sulking in a corner when they are reminded that Marilyn’s size 14 was not THEIR size 14. You know, the gals who make FAT LOVE blog posts about other girls who have a healthy self-esteem.

Badass broads don’t bother with negative body nomenclatures, because anyone who is anyone would never identify them with the CHUBS and FATTY words in the first place.

I’ll be inside a shabby chic coffin before I would call any of the ladies I love and respect any word that isn’t “fly” “legit” “badass” etc. And while it may sometimes slip that I’m jealous of a someone’s bodacious figure, I’ll be damned if I call them something best left to the girls that have NOTHING ELSE to offer other than their big bodied pride.

A size 2 girl can be a big old fatty in my mind, the moment they start going out of their way to bring attention to their body size, in any way that could be insulting to someone else."

So I suppose Tiffany actually doesn't use 'fat' to mean 'bitch' exactly - it's more 'woman who makes other women feel self-conscious about their own weight' which is so opposite-day it may make my head explode.

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[info]polygamouse
2009-08-04 03:52 am UTC (link)
Fly, legit, and bodacious, eh? Did I fall through the internets into 1992? Seriously, if it's 1992, I've got a walkman and a subscription to Sassy, so I'm good.

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[info]hickorydickory
2009-08-04 02:55 pm UTC (link)
*wince* Yeah, I'm not really sure what they're going for there.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2009-08-04 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Finally, my parachute pants and Fido Dido t-shirt come in handy!

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[info]risha
2009-08-04 05:00 pm UTC (link)
You laugh, but at All Points West this weekend, I'm pretty sure that the male lead of Chairlift was wearing parachute pants.

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[info]zara_zero
2009-08-05 06:26 am UTC (link)
Grey parachute pants seem to be all the rage with some of the hipster guys in my neighbourhood right now.

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[info]sandglass
2009-08-04 03:54 am UTC (link)
Badass broads don’t bother with negative body nomenclatures, because anyone who is anyone would never identify them with the CHUBS and FATTY words in the first place.

So, if you're cool enough, people won't notice that you're fat?

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[info]risha
2009-08-04 04:19 am UTC (link)
Funny how that doesn't seem to work for Queen Latifa, who is about the most awesome person in the world.

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[info]hickorydickory
2009-08-04 02:56 pm UTC (link)
I think she means to say that fat people who truly have self-esteem live in self-denial.

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[info]munchkinott
2009-08-04 08:56 am UTC (link)
Decrypting Tiffany, I think it's more 'if you look like you could hit me, and you would hurt me - I'd never say you're fat' than opposite-day.

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[info]willywanka
2009-08-04 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Reading that makes me question if I have been drinking for the past 3 hours.

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[info]missdaisy
2009-08-04 02:28 pm UTC (link)
My daughter used to do this with ordinary words, not loaded ones, obviously. Of course she was six and eventually learned that "my word for it" wasn't going to cut any ice with the rest of the world. You can't ask for a crunchy stick and expect to get a carrot.

I loved it, though, when I'd wake her up and she'd ask me if was clock o'morning time.

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