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otf_wank's thoughts on weight, stop sharing your thoughts

HOW DARE YOU CALL ME FAT
Mars from Chicken Dinner Candybar does her regular Fat Love Friday and includes Marie from Agent Lover.

Marie is put off by her inclusion on a "fat" list and tells Mars so.

Mars offers to take it down. Marie refuses. Instead, she proclaims on her blog, "oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale no!

Chaos ensues in the comments about fatphobia, body acceptance, fashion sense (or the lack thereof), and kissing-up commentors.

Is Marie brave or is she overreacting?

(I'm in the comments and I know Natalie [the 'overreacting' link], so I am slightly involved in the wank aftermath. It's pretty obvious which side i'm on.)

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...

sneer
2009-08-04 09:09 pm UTC (link)

What's patronizing is you talking to me like you think I can't tell the difference between fat and muscle. One jiggles. The other doesn't. It's not rocket science. Or assuming I don't know BMI lies. Yes. I do. I know that very well.

I know *exactly* where you are coming from with the anger about how overweight people are treated.

Then maybe you could try learning from that experience and, once again, LEARNING TO MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS about other peoples' weight.

I wouldn't dream of being one of those assholes who think that anyone who is above a size 4 is a whale.

Then don't engage in the same kind of blame-n-shame bullshit those assholes do when someone says "yeah, hey, I cannot safely lose any more weight." This may come as a shock to you but they might just know themselves better than you do.

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...

silrana
2009-08-04 09:47 pm UTC (link)

I never intended to imply you don't know the difference. It's just that I've had a lot of weightlifter friends over the years, and they were always grousing about how the BMI index said they were overweight. And I wasn't assuming that you didn't know about the BMI distortions, I was trying to show that I knew so you wouldn't think I didn't understand about them.

Normally, I would agree with you about minding my own business. But I was never trying to tell other people how to live their lives. I was objecting to them telling me how I should live mine. I was reading post after post of people saying that making a long term (hopefully lifelong) change in my weight simply wasn't possible. That genetics or any number of factors would not allow it. I don't believe in 'impossible'. And I don't appreciate people telling me what I can and cannot do any more than you do.

It was never about "If you were a good, unlazy etc. person you could lose weight." It was about "Don't tell me I can't save my own life."

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