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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-08-03 19:06:00


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Entry tags:otf_wank's thoughts on weight, stop sharing your thoughts

HOW DARE YOU CALL ME FAT
Mars from Chicken Dinner Candybar does her regular Fat Love Friday and includes Marie from Agent Lover.

Marie is put off by her inclusion on a "fat" list and tells Mars so.

Mars offers to take it down. Marie refuses. Instead, she proclaims on her blog, "oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale no!

Chaos ensues in the comments about fatphobia, body acceptance, fashion sense (or the lack thereof), and kissing-up commentors.

Is Marie brave or is she overreacting?

(I'm in the comments and I know Natalie [the 'overreacting' link], so I am slightly involved in the wank aftermath. It's pretty obvious which side i'm on.)



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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]silrana
2009-08-04 10:27 pm UTC (link)
Hmm, true, it probably was overly broad. But I'm sure you can agree that it isn't *good* for you. Still, if you have regular checkups and your doctor says you are doing just fine, then I certainly think that if you are happy just the way you are, great.

Looking over some of my posts, I haven't been as clear as I should have been that I'm not trying to tell people that they should lose weight if they are doing fine. If you're happy, who am I to tell you to do anything differently? I just got upset because some of the posts in this thread were acting as though nobody has a *real* reason to need to lose weight, and that is was useless to try.

Bad diets? Been there, still have the bad memories. I would never advocate them to anyone. Insane exercise regimens? Okay, I'm too lazy for one of those, but I knew a girl in college who nearly screwed herself up badly doing that. Again, not a fan, no way I would tell someone to do something like that. A stick thin figure being somehow essential to life? One word. Mom. Grrrrr.

So when I said, "If I do this, it could do something positive for my health, and I don't think people should be saying it's bad to try it," I didn't mean for anyone to translate it as "You should do everything humanly possible, no matter how stupid, to become a Twiggy lookalike or you're an awful, terrible person." Sorry I let my emotions and temper make me upset enough that I didn't pick my words more carefully.

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]risha
2009-08-04 11:36 pm UTC (link)
Well, it's not like I was absolutely clear with everything I said, either.

I just worry about people, because sometimes (almost always!) it really is impossible for that person to permanently lose weight, and it becomes a gigantic trap of trying, failing, and then feeling bad about themselves. And then society tries to tell them that it's a death sentence (usually false) that they've given themselves (usually false).

From there, it becomes very easy from this side for that concern about the damage that people can, and do, do to themselves in this endless quest, to come across as poo-pooing the idea that you're one of the tiny minority of people can lose some and the even tinier number who are healthier if they can.

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