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Tiara [my demand] ([info]mydemand) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-08-03 19:06:00


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Entry tags:otf_wank's thoughts on weight, stop sharing your thoughts

HOW DARE YOU CALL ME FAT
Mars from Chicken Dinner Candybar does her regular Fat Love Friday and includes Marie from Agent Lover.

Marie is put off by her inclusion on a "fat" list and tells Mars so.

Mars offers to take it down. Marie refuses. Instead, she proclaims on her blog, "oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale no!

Chaos ensues in the comments about fatphobia, body acceptance, fashion sense (or the lack thereof), and kissing-up commentors.

Is Marie brave or is she overreacting?

(I'm in the comments and I know Natalie [the 'overreacting' link], so I am slightly involved in the wank aftermath. It's pretty obvious which side i'm on.)



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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]munchkinott
2009-08-07 08:09 pm UTC (link)
Some doctors make careers by driving away the people whodon't fit their biases, and think they're right.`1

Word. My doctor "bitch slapped" me into a supervised 400cal/day Vegan diet, after feeding me up with steroids I didn't need for 6 years, because my weight 'concerned' him.

I lost 12lbs in 6 months. For that I ended up in hospital for 3 weeks with every vitamin and mineral deficiency there is, severe muscle wastage (suspected early intervention ketoacidosis), a menstrual cycle that didn't know how to stop for 3 years, 5 months of physiotherapy and I'll probably be crippled with food intolerance related IBS (my body can't process starch anymore) for the rest of my life.

Irony of it is I was still in the obese/morbidly obese category and my body was behaving like I was anorexic. If I'd left it another week my kidneys would've failed and possibly my liver too.

My current doctor? Has seen all of this in my records and is pushing me to do the same again 'for your health'.

But, of course, when it comes to the You Can Make The Change/Doctor Says crowd - they don't mean people like me. They never mean people like me. I just wonder how the hell they can separate people like me from all the Fat Lazy Bastards Who Ate All The Pies And Should Lose Weight To Stop Offending Their Eyes?

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]frequentmouse
2009-08-08 05:39 pm UTC (link)
Jesus Christ, where do you live, 1958? (I say this because that was then when my six-foot father was diagnosed as Type 2 they put him on a 800 calorie a day diet; he was working asa logger at the time).

There are too fucking many bottom-quartile-of-their-med-class docs who have confused very rare with never happens; they ought, at least, to have the sense god gave geese and understand when they're faced with a patient who needs to be treated differently.



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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]munchkinott
2009-08-09 07:25 am UTC (link)
Jesus Christ, where do you live, 1958?

Worse, England.

The problem with the idiot doctors here is weight, like smoking, is a 'will-power offence' they can hit you with a stick over while avoiding the issue of any underlying or acute medical complaints. So they get paid extra by the government who listen to the WHO's 'lifestyle disease' shrieks and drive home in a new Porsche, while patients get a fast track to an inquest and coroner's report.

This is what my doctor tried to convince me to do this time (I've tried orlistat and it doesn't work on me as I don't eat enough/eat the wrong foods - that was fun. :D). I told him, correctly, to fuck off. I'm 6ft tall, 23 stone and I'd rather die early from the joys of being a fatarsed smoker, than earlier from the interventions of experts.

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]frequentmouse
2009-08-09 07:43 am UTC (link)
Exersize, eat healthy food, own your desires: if you want cake, don't try to buy it with a "healthy meal" first. And to hell with the docs who don't get it.

I'm forebearing comment on the smoking part; it's been way over twenty years and if I think about it too hard I can give myself a nicotine fit.

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Re: Might get some negative feedback on this, but...
[info]munchkinott
2009-08-09 08:39 pm UTC (link)
That's pretty much how I live my life. I eat what I want (food intolerances excluded) when I want, don't candy-barter or calorie count. Exercise is the only problem at the moment 'cause I'm moving house (my 'local' gym is 50miles away and I don't drive) and don't have the space to knot myself up with yoga & tai chi as I've got boxes everywhere.

I'm jacking it in when I move. Currently I'm chaining it 'cause I have had one bastard of a year. A real fucker the like of which I hope I'll never have again.

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