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Jenn ([info]evening_rose) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-08-26 22:46:00


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Because it's so like being pro-choice!
Sometime over the weekend, someone snuck onto private property and killed and dismembered a nine-foot alligator that had taken up residence in a local business owner's pond. The property owner has posted a reward for any information that could lead to finding the poachers, and now the local humane society and a couple of other groups have added to the reward.

This does not sit well with some people.

A few choice segments behind the cut for the linkaphobes.


3500 dollars....why not 130 million...that seems to be the going rate for dogs. Why not make it the rate for alligators. You PETA supporters make me SICK!!!!!!!!

Why don't all you who are so upset about the killing and dismemberment of this helpless, inoffensive alligator come on over to Broad and 13th Streets every 3rd Friday at 5 pm to protest the killing and dismembering of unborn human babies. Surely, as helpless and inoffensive as they are, they rate some of your outrage. Right? (Because the two things are SO VERY ALIKE YOU KNOW!)

BR549jr, I agree, Now they want us to pay for everyones doctor bills,jeeze !!!!!! Whats next leash laws just to walk your alligator? (Personally, I like to keep mine off the leash. He's more effective a guard dog that way!)

If the store owner knew it was there, then He could be charged with endangering the public, and haboring an animal not meant for domestic residence. Was the pond fenced off with warning signs? If not, then the owner was placing the general public at risk. If I were him, I would keep my mouth shut, and hope it goes away, before those crazy lawyers smell blood in the water and come after some of that money. Sounds crazy doesnt it? But this is just another reason why, we as a nation need tort reform, because it liables too many(BUT NOT ALL) for STUPID reasons, for nothing more than making a quick buck. ~marandan~ (Yes, because it's totes the property owner's fault that a nine-foot gator took up residence there!)

What if some little kid, was walking through the area, and the gator grabbed him. Would the general public and most lawyers not be screaming to punish the landowner? HMMMMM? You animal lovers place more value in one non-domestic animal, than you do your fellow human beings. What if the people who killed this Gator, was some hungry homeless people who live in the woods? But they left the carcass, before they could prepare it, for fear of being caught. There are many possible scenarios, to answer what really happened, but to only feel rage towards how the gator met his demise, try to think of all the possibilities of how that gator ,made other animals meet their demise. ~marandan~


It seems some people just don't realize that they already lost the argument and any credibility they might have had. I'm just waiting for someone to break a [info]jurisimprudence law, really. The sad part is, I probably have to deal with one or more of these morons every day at work.

Just to show that we aren't all idiots here, there are commenters showing more common sense than this, and some snarkers calling the especially stupid ones out on their stupidity. One of the snarkers calling marandan out on his bullshit is actually my mother! :D! She's nine levels of awesome.


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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Don't alligators in residential areas pretty much just eat pets or bite the hand off of small, dumb children who intentionally aggravate them? I mean, if the six meter long male saltwater crocodile who lives in our local zoo (and is there because he menaced swimmers, didn't get along in the Eastern states crocodile park he was initially placed in and then ripped the jaw off a female they kept with him) started chilling around the 'burb, I'd be pretty concerned, but I always thought alligators were less territorial and less likely to death-roll someone?

Although I do live in the-land-where-everything-is-trying-to-kill-you, so my perspective may be a little skewed.

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Correction, our zoo's crocodile is only near to 5 meters long, but he still generates such a field of malediction as to appear much larger. When I go to the zoo, I mainly check on him just to make sure he's still securely enclosed and not liable to roam around Perth any time soon.

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[info]gunshou
2009-08-27 02:11 pm UTC (link)
I do love that in Australia, even the zoo animals want you dead. What a magnificent land!

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 02:24 pm UTC (link)
... and the very pretty blue ringed octopi, and the invisible pinkie-nail sized killer irukandji jellyfish (I'm not even kidding about those), and the box jellyfish (which isn't actually a jellyfish) which has eyes and actively hunts its prey. In zoos, on land, in the water, it occasionally bothers me how many things here want me dead.

Truly, it's magnificent how many deadly things have managed to evolve on one landmass.

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[info]b_jellybean
2009-08-27 02:45 pm UTC (link)
There is no known antidote for venom that has already entered the body. Morphine will not help reduce the pain

JFC. Thank you, now if I ever get the urge to spend lots of money and visit Australia, I will be able to very quickly convince myself why that would be a horrible idea.

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 02:57 pm UTC (link)
There was a documentary with people researching irukandji, and even suited up both still managed to be stung and spent a few days screaming in pain in a hospital bed because the painkillers do no good. On the plus side, they mainly live above the top half of Australia (Ningaloo reef which has sea turtles and whale and zebra sharks is nice and safe, save for the box jellyfish, sharks, blue ringed octopi, stone fish and a myriad of other dangers), but on the down side one of the effects of global warming is it's likely their range will expand. Stringrays are quite docile however and very cool to swim with.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-08-27 04:02 pm UTC
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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-08-27 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]persona, 2009-08-27 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]emiweebee, 2009-08-27 10:18 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2009-08-28 02:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]feenix, 2009-08-28 02:01 pm UTC
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[info]persona
2009-08-27 08:15 pm UTC (link)
There is no known antidote for venom that has already entered the body. Morphine will not help reduce the pain

Now that is some true blue Nightmare Fuel Unleaded.

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[info]bubosquared
2009-09-01 01:38 pm UTC (link)
The matter-of-fact, almost casual way that's written just makes it worse. Also, the picture at the top of the page. "Awww, tiny wee baby jellyfish!" And then you start reading.

D:

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[info]taterbird
2009-08-27 04:46 pm UTC (link)
You make that croc sound so nasty that I want check outside my window and make sure he hasn't made a break for California. Gators in Georgia are closer, and you're making me want to check that the entire wildlife population of Australia isn't on an international murderous rampage. I hope you're happy!

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 06:05 pm UTC (link)
He is that nasty, seriously.

I don't think any benevolent creature has a jaw like that. Also, I find it creepy when something old enough to be my grandfather is still fit enough to eat me.

If it's any comfort though, the wildlife population of Australia would have to swim a really long way to rampage you, although there is evidence that great white sharks are trans-oceanic migrators.

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[info]damien
2009-08-27 11:32 pm UTC (link)
I'm moving to Australia in January. Your comment has convinced that along with everything else I do to plan for the move, I need to write a will. XD

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[info]pariforma
2009-08-27 03:17 pm UTC (link)
OTOH, some of the most popular pet birds originated there: budgies, cockatiels, and at least one species of cockatoo.

Fun birdies... killer animals... I'd visit there.

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Oh, we do have amazing birds here, I love birds and they sure help put up with all the threats to my life. There's an abundance of brightly coloured parrot and parakeet varieties which are great pets because they're all quite clever (unlike pretty birds like finches which are sadly quite vapid) as well other bird types in amazingly hues such as Splendid Fairy Wrens, the males of which are the most fabulous electric blue. Driving up from Perth to Ningaloo reef last year it was also amazing how many birds of prey you see just circling around in the outback hunting over scrub - I really have a great love for Wedge Tailed Eagles, which are huge (big enough to carry off a lamb) and gorgeous.

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[info]pariforma
2009-08-27 06:24 pm UTC (link)
I've had finches and loved them, but I think my fave birds are the two cockatiels I have now and my late cockatiel hen who died about a year ago. Smart, affectionate, and beautiful.

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[info]brennalarose
2009-08-27 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Oooh! Those birds are gorgeous!

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Of course, I did forget to mention about the Cassowary, which while beautiful and lushly coloured and a favourite of mine, is known for disemboweling people.

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[info]pariforma
2009-08-27 06:27 pm UTC (link)
Yeow. Beware the mighty foot!!

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(no subject) - [info]white_tean, 2009-08-27 06:33 pm UTC

[info]evilsqueakers
2009-08-28 11:03 am UTC (link)
Oh, great. Another bird that will kill me if given a chance. Birds and rabbits loathe me. I refuse to work with them at any given time since the birds think I'm dinner and the rabbits like to charge and then try to disembowel with back feet.

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[info]singe
2009-08-27 05:57 pm UTC (link)
I do live in the-land-where-everything-is-trying-to-kill-you

Even the cute animals have it in for you. I was two years old when my family visited the Sunshine Coast and bedamned if the first thing I did was to get into a knock-down drag-out with a kangaroo. Granted, not a very big kangaroo but still...

I'm going back someday for Round 2!

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[info]white_tean
2009-08-27 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh, but you were just a little nipper, they should have started you out with a wallaby first, and then you could have worked your way up to a male Red Kangaroo (which you really aren't supposed to stand upright near because they can take that as a challenge). Male platypi also have venomous spurs of course, so you are right about the cute critters being rather dangerous as well.

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[info]singe
2009-08-28 04:21 am UTC (link)
Maybe I could take on a very small and very ill Koala...

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[info]damien
2009-08-27 11:31 pm UTC (link)
OMG YOU'RE ME. I got knocked over by a joey when I was a wee tiny kid and according to my parents, I was so confused that I just got straight up, stared about with big eyes and a total "did anyone get the number of the truck that just hit me?" expression.

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[info]singe
2009-08-28 04:17 am UTC (link)
We gotta go back and STOP that kangaroo that's been beating up on little girls, man!

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2009-08-28 12:56 am UTC (link)
I always thought alligators were less territorial and less likely to death-roll someone?

I believe that's true, and demonstrates what scares me most about crocodiles: while the matter of sharks is still up in the air, I do believe that crocs really do like the taste of human flesh (correct me if I'm wrong).

and then ripped the jaw off a female they kept with him

Does this make him the King Kong of crocodiles (bear in mind that Kong effectively ripped the jaw off a tyrannosaur)?

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[info]brown_betty
2009-08-28 04:14 am UTC (link)
slkdfj your icon! I admire it!

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