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Lauren ([info]ladylauren) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-10-29 21:07:00


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Current mood:Dramatic
Current music:Crowded House -- 'There Goes God'
Entry tags:authorwank, bloody repeats!, nanowrimo, plagiarism, pretention, should be nanoreadmo amirite

My word count is pastede on yay, back for 2009!
Some of you may remember this wank from last year, revolving around a certain individual who decided to claim he'd 'won' NaNoWriMo by copying and pasting pages from Wikipedia and so on into Word and then using find and replace until it was a 'completely new and unique literary work'.

Well, he's back. With his profile page proudly boasting of last year's 'achievement' thusly:

My debut with NaNoWriMo was in 2008, when I completed a 2.5-million-word draft titled "The President Who Exploded." This work is what I call a “non-linear literary collage.” It consists of materials I mined from various blogs, chat rooms and fan fiction sites. I'm a word rustler. I prowl the talk pages of Wikipedia, the reader comments on io9.com and various venues frequented by anonymous bloggers. I shamelessly plagiarize their words -- even their misspellings and gramatical errors -- then transform the stolen content into a new and unique literary product through a series of computer-assisted modifications (cut-up engines, Markov generators, search and replace functions, etc.) and combinations with recycled content from my own writings. These are techniques I first explored in “Marienbad My Love,” the world's longest novel. Released in 2008, this 17-million-word creation also sets records for the world's longest word, sentence and book title.

Which, notably, is copypasta from his own website. Self-plagiarism must be the literary equivalent of sitting on your hand until it goes numb before masturbating.

Modus operandi announced, he trots into the 'Reaching the MILLION ...... NaNoWriMo 2009' The following exchange ensues:

marienbadmylove: I logged 2.5 million words last year. I'm swinging for 999,999-plus again this time. Let the good times roll!

Kateness: you know I don't think your words count, on the basis of our disagreement last year.
BUT
because the rules explicitly say I can't call you a cheater, I won't, because god knows that rule has helped me in the past, and we'll just leave it at that. If you think it's a win, it's a win (Just kindly keep your hands off any excerpts I may post, and my blog if you're so inclined), and that's all I'm going to say about this.


marienbadmylove: Ah, but how can you stop me? *snip some drivel about William Burroughs*

Dragonchilde (forum moderator extraordinaire: OH NO YOU DIDN'T *cites rules stating why he can't threaten to steal other Wrimos' writing*

marienbadmylove: *more gibberish about Burroughs that is kind of really not applicable in this situation at all*

Rest of responses: *dogpile without explicitly calling him a cheater* The best of which is Angolera's: There's a huge difference between writing 2.5 million words and using 2.5 million words.

marienbadmylove: *disappears from thread*

But where is he now? Oh, here he is, announcing his intention to hit 50,000 words on Day One to give himself a 'little cushion' on his way to the million. Please note he never states he's going to write these words, and is yet to return to the thread to pass comment on whether he is typing these words or using a voice recognition system. Funny about that.

And it's not even November yet...

Edit: Classic response from painkillers regarding the need of someone shooting for a million to sleep: Sleep? SLEEP? sleep is for writers, I'm a conceptual artist I am. ga ga goo goo ga ga, gin gang gooly, see it is the conception of the words that matter, not the words themselves. i don't need to sleep, because i don't use my brain -- for anything.

Son of edit: He reaches 50K!




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[info]shark
2009-10-29 02:09 pm UTC (link)
I am so, so glad I'm not doing NaNo this year. So glad.

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(no subject) - [info]wolfshark, 2009-10-29 02:43 pm UTC
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[info]quantumreality
2009-10-29 02:34 pm UTC (link)
This is one of those times I wish I could reach through the Internet and bash someone over the head, 'cause mr. marienbadmylove could sure use a couple lumps on the noggin.

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[info]brennalarose
2009-10-29 02:54 pm UTC (link)
God help me, is he still expecting us to be good little bootlickers when he tells us how much of an asshat he is?

Waltzing Mother Mary Mild on the Dancefloor, I really hope he never finds any of my work.

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-10-29 03:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-10-30 07:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-10-31 04:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-10-31 05:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-11-02 04:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2009-11-02 04:56 am UTC

[info]jkefka
2009-10-29 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Ahh, NaNo wank, always satisfying! Definitely under the category of wankers who just will not shut up, this fellow. He really seems to have issues with the concept of "writing" as opposed to just "creating word-hash using a few basic algorithms and a supply of raw text." Ironically, it seems like he does more actual writing in wanking about his HUGE PENIS WORDCOUNT than he will in the production of "his" "work." Yes, they do need to be scare-quoted separately.

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(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-29 03:21 pm UTC
really ot - [info]snarkhunter, 2009-10-30 02:06 pm UTC
Re: really ot - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-30 02:20 pm UTC
Re: really ot - [info]snarkhunter, 2009-10-30 02:33 pm UTC
Re: really ot - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-30 06:28 pm UTC
Re: really ot - [info]fionnabhair, 2009-11-02 07:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 01:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2009-10-29 03:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2009-10-29 04:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cygnia, 2009-10-29 04:44 pm UTC
Ink a dinka dink - [info]kosaginolegion, 2009-10-29 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-10-29 05:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-29 05:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caito, 2009-10-29 07:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yoritomo_reiko, 2009-10-29 07:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-10-29 05:15 pm UTC

[info]cjk
2009-10-29 04:26 pm UTC (link)
OT, but I like your icon. I'm all hip and modern, too, because it took my little brother to first explain the game to me.

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(no subject) - [info]kookaburra, 2009-10-29 04:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-10-29 04:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]catslash, 2009-10-29 05:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2009-10-29 06:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2009-10-29 06:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2009-10-29 07:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-29 08:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2009-10-30 08:21 am UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-10-29 05:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]meagenimage, 2009-10-29 05:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2009-10-29 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-29 08:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cjk, 2009-10-29 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - mockygogo, 2009-10-29 05:57 pm UTC

[info]velvet_mace
2009-10-29 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Man, he totally misses the point of nanowrimo doesn't he. I bet he cheats at masturbation.

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(no subject) - [info]cjk, 2009-10-29 05:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jkefka, 2009-10-29 07:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2009-10-30 05:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]anonyrat, 2009-10-30 08:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 01:57 am UTC

[info]singe
2009-10-29 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Ah, but how can you stop me?

Troll.

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[info]cleolinda
2009-10-29 06:12 pm UTC (link)
Couldn't someone just submit 3 million words of gibberish and show up his e-penis or whatever?

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(no subject) - [info]quantumreality, 2009-10-29 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aaron_agonistes, 2009-10-29 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]barankhy, 2009-10-29 06:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perletwo, 2009-10-29 10:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theelusiven, 2009-10-30 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]staroverthebay, 2009-10-30 05:51 am UTC

[info]tachikoma01
2009-10-29 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I bet when he was a kid, he bought a whole bunch of old sports trophies at salvation army and told everyone he "earned" them. Because he put all the work into finding them at the second hand store, right?

Okay, I actually don't have much to say on this because he's so far off the wanker end, he's reached the "ignore me, I'm a troll" level. I just wanted to add yet another shark-themed icon to this thread.

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(no subject) - [info]trisandrockets, 2009-10-31 03:36 pm UTC

tetradecimal
2009-10-29 07:17 pm UTC (link)

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(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2009-10-29 07:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2009-10-29 08:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-10-29 09:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bienegold, 2009-10-29 09:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-10-29 09:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lilgoala, 2009-10-30 06:56 am UTC

[info]malleo
2009-10-29 07:31 pm UTC (link)
...Wow. What a douche.

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[info]tehrin
2009-10-29 09:27 pm UTC (link)
So, why hasn't he been banned yet?

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[info]rogueunit
2009-10-29 09:53 pm UTC (link)
Self-plagiarism must be the literary equivalent of sitting on your hand until it goes numb before masturbating.

I vote that this be the default definition! Can't comment on the wank but I just love that statement.

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2009-10-29 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 01:30 am UTC

[info]bigbigtruck
2009-10-29 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Self-plagiarism must be the literary equivalent of sitting on your hand until it goes numb before masturbating.

"I like to call that one 'The Stranger'."

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[info]irised
2009-10-29 11:36 pm UTC (link)
Kateness: "As for me, they're all different and original words. If I rewrite a scene, the old scene gets tossed."

Marienbadmylove: "That's a perfect legit approach. In my case, I must admit my words are not particularly different or original as I prefer to use existing words that are available in the dictionary (ha ha, little joke)"

@-@!

Ha ha, little joke? He seriously wrote that? Is this real life?

I wouldn't care if he stole from me, I mean the guy is just putting it into word salad that no-one's going to read ... whatevs. I think the most appropriate response is "lol" ...

Oh, and "wow." Because ... wow.

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(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]irised, 2009-11-02 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 03:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]irised, 2009-11-02 04:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-11-02 04:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 06:36 am UTC

[info]mcity
2009-10-29 11:38 pm UTC (link)
> I'm a word rustler. I prowl the talk pages of Wikipedia, the reader comments on io9.com and various venues frequented by anonymous bloggers.

Then follow them into dark alleys, knocks them over, and rifles through their pockets for loose voc--wait, isn't that a Bill Bailey quote?

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(no subject) - [info]smashingstars, 2009-10-30 05:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2009-10-30 05:12 am UTC

[info]sarkasm
2009-10-29 11:41 pm UTC (link)
I love you, Nanowrimo wank. We should strive to have 50 000 words of Nano wank. :D

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(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 01:59 am UTC

[info]orangecrush
2009-10-29 11:49 pm UTC (link)
Fact of the matter is, writing a novel in 3 days (a novel being described as 75k to 140k words) is not unheard of and is actually a pretty common thing for professional authors to do.

This is OT but that was another comment in the thread. Commenters like that and this plagiarizing idiot are why I both love and hate the folks that come out for these sort of writerly events.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2009-10-30 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]orangecrush, 2009-10-30 12:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anonyrat, 2009-10-30 08:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imp, 2009-10-30 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]monty, 2009-10-30 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruffwriter, 2009-10-30 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-10-30 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2009-10-30 10:44 pm UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2009-10-30 01:02 am UTC (link)
What is it with NaNoWriMo that it always manages to draw in the crazies?

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[info]imp
2009-10-30 01:55 am UTC (link)
You know, with his smug attitude about this and insistance on spreading the word of his "accomplishments" everywhere, I think it's nearly impossible that he honestly intends his, err, "work" as anything other than an attempt to troll the forum. Everyone there should do that thing you prank your little sibling* with where they all collectively pretend they can't see or hear him until he storms off.

*No, I have never actually done that to mine, but I wont pretend I didn't want to a couple times!

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(no subject) - [info]malleo, 2009-10-30 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]twinno, 2009-10-30 03:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smashingstars, 2009-10-30 05:06 am UTC
(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-10-30 04:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sudaki, 2009-11-02 11:18 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2009-10-30 04:50 am UTC (link)
I do remember this guy from last year. 'Literary collage,' lawl. more like "pay attention to my word salad publicity stunt! PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE!"

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[info]staroverthebay
2009-10-30 05:48 am UTC (link)
Self-plagiarism must be the literary equivalent of sitting on your hand until it goes numb before masturbating.

I fucking died. Thanks for the laugh. I wish I could participate in NaNo this year, but because of work and school, I know I'd never finish.

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(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 01:53 am UTC

[info]ruslan
2009-10-31 03:02 am UTC (link)
WILLIAM S. BURROUGHS DID NOT WORK THAT WAY.

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(no subject) - [info]ladylauren, 2009-11-02 12:43 pm UTC

[info]amaresu
2009-10-31 04:47 am UTC (link)
The really sad thing (for me anyway) was that I had to check this guy out just to make sure it wasn't an ex-boyfriend of mine. It wasn't him.


I will never stop feeling shame over that relationship.

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[info]guilty_as_sin
2009-10-31 08:22 am UTC (link)
I say we lock this guy and the DANNY author in a shark cage located in the waters around Byron Bay, Australia... well, I guest the cage doesn't have to be locked.

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(no subject) - [info]guilty_as_sin, 2009-10-31 08:23 am UTC


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