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Cesare ([info]cesare) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2009-12-14 17:45:00


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reviewer's of this ilk
Why should [info]fandom_wank have all the fun? This gem was reported on Dear Author, a romance novel review site, second story in the post.

The action takes place in the comments section on L. B. Taylor's customer review of Electra Galaxy's Mr. Interstellar Feller by Candace Sams. The review is titled "save your money" and concludes, "All over a sad excuse for romance, mystery, and humor. Save your money, you've been warned."

"Niteflyr One" comments on the review: "It looks like this reviewer has something personal against the author. Apparently, he/she doesn't know that most titles of this kind are written to please an editor these days and the editors are sometimes wrong in asking authors to re-write to 'their' specifications. But this review was more a diatribe on a comparison of 'other' stories the reader liked as opposed to reading the title and reviewing based on the new kind of work that it was meant to be."

Read it well, for these leitmotifs will recur for the next fifteen (and counting!) pages of comments: everyone who argues with Niteflyr has a grudge against her-- oh yeah, spoiler alert: Niteflyr is Candace Sams, the author, who'd have seen that coming-- personally and/or professionally; it's all the editor's fault for controlling the book down to the last micron; regardless of editorial tampering, though, people who don't like the book are just idiots.

As Niteflyr further puts it, "Even the lion has to defend himself against flies."

Another highlight comes when Courtney Milan comments, "I am an author--a debut author, no less--and let me assure you, I have control over the content of my book. Lots of it. Sometimes my editor will say, "This isn't working for me," and we'll figure out why and how to make it a better book. But I am the one doing the writing, always, NOT my editor. She edits, and does a darn good job of pushing me to write the best book possible, but I write it."

Niteflyr replies, "Good for you, Courtney...what New York publisher are you with?" and later, "Good for her...come back when she's published thirty novels like me and has done business with Dorchester". Apparently, the more novels you write, the more control the editors exert?

If you read this, get used to those repetitions and ellipses. There are lots of ellipses. And watch for other classic wank maneuvers you'll find along the way, including You're Just Jealous, You're All In On It, and The Lurkers Support Me In Email. Also keep an eye out for the glorious moment when she tells commenters they'd need Hooked On Phonics to be able to read her work.

One last treasure from Niteflyr: "Why not go after ST. Nick since you're all in such a festive mood." Hey, good idea. Has he written any shitty romance novels we can review?


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[info]misachan
2009-12-15 03:43 am UTC (link)
Jooooooooooooy! Pro author wank! Pro romance author wank! Thank you Wanka Claus!

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(no subject) - [info]superluminal, 2009-12-15 09:54 pm UTC

[info]herongale
2009-12-15 03:50 am UTC (link)
I love you forever for this wank report, which is just beautiful from top to bottom. Perfect A++ Would Wanksplain Again.

Leitmotif, motherfucker, do you speak it??

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(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-15 11:11 pm UTC

[info]white_serpent
2009-12-15 04:15 am UTC (link)
I would suggest readers view Harriet Klausner's reviews - she is a "professional" reviewer with experience.

Oh, yes, I'm sure Harriet would give this author a lovely review. The only question is whether it would be 4 stars or 5. (Because, really, that's always the only question with Harriet.)

It's so easy to do that when you don't bother to read the books first. And so fast, too! Why, you can do several hundred books a day that way!

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(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]keri, 2009-12-15 08:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]keri, 2009-12-15 09:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2009-12-15 12:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jupiterpluvius, 2009-12-16 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2009-12-15 08:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 09:36 am UTC

[info]phosfate
2009-12-15 04:40 am UTC (link)
Mr Interstellar Feller? Hoagy Carmichael is writing romance novels now?

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(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-12-15 05:06 pm UTC

[info]brennalarose
2009-12-15 04:54 am UTC (link)
Sagan Carter? The heroine is named Sagan Carter?

I'm not sure if I ought to give the author props for the nerdly shout-out or snicker like a 12-year-old hearing a fart joke.

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-12-15 05:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-12-15 10:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-12-16 01:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2009-12-18 02:31 am UTC

[info]sorchar
2009-12-15 05:08 am UTC (link)
I got nervous there for a moment because L.B. Taylor is also the name of a guy who writes books about Virginia ghosts and I kinda like him. I'm glad that it's not him.

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[info]circumstance
2009-12-15 05:09 am UTC (link)
Oh, this is the perfect wank for a rainy Monday night!

"none of these other posters stands to lose a single thing...not a contract or a dime. They will go to work tomorrow sans consequence. Indeed, they can go sell a book they didn't like right beneath the book the authors are selling on Amazon - and thereby recoup some of their purchasing 'loss'. They can go sell it on Ebay for the purchase price and will have lost nothing. They can, and frequently do, go purchase the e-book version and sell it illegally...thus depriving the author or even more money."

Is she saying that people who write negative review of her books go out and buy digital versions of them to sell for profit? Just to spite her? It must be difficult living under the constant burden of so much paranoia.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-12-15 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crysiana, 2009-12-17 04:11 pm UTC

[info]arionhunter
2009-12-15 05:15 am UTC (link)
The sheer amount of angst and self-justification at work from Sims is delicious.

"Dear readers...if you cannot find sequels to novels that you've loved or if publishing companies in this economy disappear or if authors' future works cannot be found...it might very well be because publishers, editors and agents visit these sights and read the reviews - yes even those given by angry malcontents - and these industry professionals weigh whether subsequent contracts should be offered to various authors."

Oh, don't worry, Ravenous Romance will never turn you down!

"They (the authors) hope that so-called reviewers (often shameful people who abuse the power Amazon provides) will not directly try to keep the author from making a living."

How, dear wankas, can an author still put food on her family? Will the tollbooth of the authors become too few?

"I'd liken their collective attitude to Gestapo tactics, but I don't think anyone who left comments on the list on behalf of Taylor would know what I was talking about, let alone be able to spell it."

And, five minutes to Godwin impact...

"For those of you who don't know...I was a police officer for almost ten years. I've been called things in languages from all over the world. Taylor and her webspinners hardly bother me."

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SWORN AT? IN SWAHILI?

"and I might be writing under six different aliases....you might not know who I really am at all......or how many titles there are out there that you've read and actually liked that belonged to me"

*cue spooky music*

"On an occasion of this kind it becomes more than a moral duty to speak one's mind. It becomes a pleasure."

She says as she stands triumphant above the rabble, orchestral music swelling in her wake.

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(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 06:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]karmyn75, 2009-12-15 09:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyvyola, 2009-12-15 03:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]clover_elf_kin, 2009-12-17 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2009-12-15 12:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_eponine, 2009-12-15 03:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-12-15 05:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-12-15 06:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2009-12-15 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]banesidhe, 2009-12-16 02:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mercorir, 2009-12-17 11:19 am UTC

[info]dejana
2009-12-15 06:23 am UTC (link)
Man, the conspiracy theory she's got going here is just astounding. Is there any evidence that L.B. Taylor told anyone what was going on in her review? The way Sams tells it, Taylor traveled the internets far and wide spamming everyone with a sob story about the mean old author until a hundred people rushed in to fight her battle for her. Page after page after page of the same old refrain. The crazy is strong in this one.

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(no subject) - [info]dejana, 2009-12-15 06:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-15 11:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dejana, 2009-12-15 11:50 pm UTC

[info]eleutheria
2009-12-15 06:36 am UTC (link)
I'm just sad that "Intersteller Feller" isn't the boyfriend of Interplanet Janet. (I will be singing that for the rest of the night, now. Thanks, brain!)

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(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2009-12-15 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 07:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]circumstance, 2009-12-15 06:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2009-12-15 07:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]negativecosine, 2009-12-15 11:45 am UTC

[info]tarash
2009-12-15 12:12 pm UTC (link)
Why not go after ST. Nick since you're all in such a festive mood.

What's Saint Nicholas done to you?

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(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2009-12-15 12:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tarash, 2009-12-16 12:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yattara, 2009-12-16 01:05 pm UTC

[info]yattara
2009-12-15 12:43 pm UTC (link)
Apparently, the more novels you write, the more control the editors exert?

Who failed to tell Anne Rice that?

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(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-12-15 05:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bobafeis, 2009-12-16 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-12-16 05:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2009-12-16 04:21 am UTC

[info]jkefka
2009-12-15 02:04 pm UTC (link)
I am always amused by published authors who feel the need to respond personally to every negative customer review. Also, god help her stupid face if her editor and/or publisher ever sees this.

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[info]breecita
2009-12-15 04:07 pm UTC (link)
I thought the best part was where she pulled out LOL SOCIAL EXPERIMENT on the 2nd freaking page.

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(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2009-12-15 05:19 pm UTC

[info]shadowmonkey
2009-12-15 04:32 pm UTC (link)
I don't know why she's so upset. Her editor is the one who wrote the book.


Also, out of shear nosiness: Crikey! That debut author sold her first two books for a six figure sum.

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(no subject) - [info]circumstance, 2009-12-15 07:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]paladin, 2009-12-15 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goblin, 2009-12-15 07:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miraba, 2009-12-16 09:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]txvoodoo, 2009-12-16 11:38 pm UTC

[info]issendai
2009-12-15 11:28 pm UTC (link)
SHE REPORTED THE AMAZON COMMENTERS TO THE FBI.

Oh, man. I love this wank. It's a jewel box of crazy.

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(no subject) - [info]dejana, 2009-12-15 11:51 pm UTC
Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]issendai, 2009-12-16 12:03 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]white_serpent, 2009-12-16 12:42 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]northen_light36, 2009-12-16 01:07 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]nc_bookworm, 2009-12-16 01:56 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]squeakthemouse, 2009-12-16 02:37 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]nc_bookworm, 2009-12-17 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anatsuno, 2009-12-16 06:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nc_bookworm, 2009-12-17 12:12 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]jkefka, 2009-12-16 03:59 am UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]bigbigtruck, 2009-12-16 08:34 pm UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]jkefka, 2009-12-16 08:56 pm UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]dejana, 2009-12-16 09:50 pm UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2009-12-18 08:23 pm UTC
Re: Get an Internet Lawyer fast! The internet FBI has your name! - [info]issendai, 2009-12-17 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-16 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]librarianmouse, 2009-12-17 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]squeakthemouse, 2009-12-16 02:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-12-16 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tarash, 2009-12-16 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kitt_in_socks, 2009-12-16 08:35 pm UTC

[info]nc_bookworm
2009-12-16 02:05 am UTC (link)
The author says that she was a cop for 10 years. This scares me because it means that at some point she was given a gun to use.

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(no subject) - tetradecimal, 2009-12-16 04:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nc_bookworm, 2009-12-17 12:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jupiterpluvius, 2009-12-16 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nc_bookworm, 2009-12-17 12:08 am UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2009-12-16 04:17 am UTC (link)
Even the lion has to defend himself against flies.

I don't think he does, actually. I think that as nature metaphors go, that one flopped like a bunny rabbit on narcotics.

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[info]karmyn75
2009-12-17 10:35 am UTC (link)
I don't know who this crazy bitch is, but I stopped reading books published by Dorchester when they refused to do anything about the Cassie Edwards plagerism scandal.

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(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-17 11:16 am UTC

[info]magnolia_mama
2009-12-17 02:09 pm UTC (link)
A couple people up-thread reported that Neil Gaiman linked to this wank on his Twitter; he's also posted about it on his blog (though he didn't link here).

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[info]nagaina
2009-12-17 04:13 pm UTC (link)
On the other hand, Making Light does link to otf_wank in the comments of this delightful post:

http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/011997.html#011997

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(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2009-12-17 09:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-17 11:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nagaina, 2009-12-17 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cesare, 2009-12-17 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2009-12-18 01:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nagaina, 2009-12-18 02:14 am UTC

[info]tangentialone
2009-12-18 10:26 am UTC (link)
Euch. What's 'with' the 'scare quotes'(?) that she litters 'throughout' her comments? At first I thought it was some kind of bizarre way to denote italics (I guess because wiki markup uses '' pairs for italics and I'm used to using it when I edit), but that doesn't quite seem to be the case.

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[info]demonbean
2009-12-18 02:41 pm UTC (link)
By the time I got to the link, all of Niteflyer's posts were blocked out with the message [Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion.]

And lo, verily, I laughed.

(P.S. I always enjoy a good "The Lurkers Support Me in Email"! Whoot.)

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2009-12-18 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Pro romance novel author wank?

Really, all this needs is Nora Roberts weighing in somewhere, and it would be perfect.

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[info]wiccanslyr
2009-12-19 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh Noes! Candie Hams has gone "delete button" happy! Someone please tell me we have caps!

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