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	kitt_in_socks 2010-03-31 12:53 am UTC (link)
	"I think you have entirely missed the point of living in Seattle". Now, I'm not from there, but I assume some Seattle residents aren't constantly thinking about Fighting The Man. I mean, dude, Starbucks. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	jupiterpluvius 2010-03-31 01:30 am UTC (link)
	Many Seattleites remember when Starbucks wasn't The Man, but a feisty local upstart challenging The Man. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cmdr_zoom 2010-03-31 01:44 am UTC (link)
	Who was The (Coffee) Man, back then? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	bigbigtruck 2010-03-31 01:51 am UTC (link)
	Too Much Coffee Man? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2010-03-31 03:23 am UTC (link)
	Folgers and Maxwell House. D: (Reply to this)(Parent)

frequentmouse
2010-04-01 04:49 pm UTC (link)

When Starbucks opened? Monorail Coffee, but even more than that, The Last Exit, of blessed memory, which died when its owner did.

Bitching about Starbucks is punk, anyway; there are... three, I think, independant coffee roasters in Olympia/Lacey/Tumwater, including one (Batdorf and Bronson's) big enough to have an extensive mail-order business; that one only got bigger when Starbuck's moved in across the road, and later moved into a 2,000sq ft space two doors down from 'Bucks. Every town around Puget Sound has local roasters competing with 'Bucks: Starbucks has the grocery store places, and guys like Olympic have the drive-through independants.

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	chibikaijuu 2010-03-31 01:59 am UTC (link)
	I just think it's funny that everyone thinks that Seattle, like, invented coffee, when San Francisco was the center of the West Coast coffee industry for ages. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	deadrose 2010-03-31 09:57 am UTC (link)
	Word. I lived in SF in the early 80s and came back with a taste for North Beach espresso joint coffee. Was quite a while before Seattle caught up with me. But once they did, they went to town on it and now I can hardly go anywhere without tripping over coffee shops - except my neighborhood. I live in the most coffee-deprived area of town, apparently. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	snarkhunter 2010-03-31 12:55 pm UTC (link)
	So you only have two coffee shops in your neighborhood, as opposed to 12? :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	jupiterpluvius 2010-03-31 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	I, too, remember when Peet's was a fiery upstart challenging The Man. And now it's The Man also. Blue Bottle 4ever! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

chibikaijuu
2010-03-31 05:23 pm UTC (link)

I don't drink coffee, but my parents love Blue Bottle.

I was actually thinking going all the way back to the turn of the previous century - Folger's and Hills Bros. operated out of SF and invented the vacuum packaging process for coffee (which was used to seal butter to be sent to troops overseas, as a major improvement over brine-packing). Up through the 80s they still roasted beans over in SOMA.

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	moosecharmer 2010-04-01 06:16 am UTC (link)
	I think Blue Bottle is The Man now? They just opened a kiosk in my laundry room, so that's a pretty good sign. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chibikaijuu 2010-04-01 05:25 pm UTC (link)
	LOL that's great. (I don't really care if a place becomes The Man so long as the quality doesn't go down, as too often happens when a chain expands and now has to keep product the same in hundreds or thousands of locations.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	aliaras 2010-04-04 03:21 am UTC (link)
	But Peet's makes being The Man sooo delicious! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dragonfangirl 2010-04-01 12:10 am UTC (link)
	You might be surprised how many Seattle residents scorn Starbucks because it's so corporate. Then turn around and sip lattes that they buy from Tully's, because that's totally not a chain. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jyuu 2010-04-01 06:55 am UTC (link)
	And if you thought both those were too corporate, there used to be SBC... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chibikaijuu 2010-04-01 05:28 pm UTC (link)
	You mean, Coffee By Border's Books And Music? (I can't really knock it - until my store closed, the Border's cafe a few shops down was where we all went for snacks/caffeine fix on our ten-minute breaks.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	visp 2010-04-01 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, Starbucks may be an evil corporate chain, but they're our evil corporate chain, thank you. Plus, they give us coffee and scones, both simple coffee and elaborate conconctions. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dragonfangirl 2010-04-03 06:54 am UTC (link)
	I always feel kind of defensive of Starbucks, which is pretty funny since I hate coffee and never go there unless it's to order hot chocolate and a brownie or something. But y'know, as evil corporate chains go, they're pretty not bad. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mcity 2010-04-11 04:45 am UTC (link)
	Music's nice, ambiance is great, it's just the four bucks and change for a tall Frappuchino I can't stand. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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