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scimitar ([info]scimitar) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-08-18 00:25:00


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Entry tags:elitism, otf_wank's thoughts on mensa

Mensans v Non-Mensans
Jill, at Feministe, makes a blog post ridiculing a comment that uses Mensa membership to validate a fondness for the Cathy comic strip.

The first comment starts off with a defense of Mensa and an earnest explanation of what it means to be a genius. But soon comments erupt criticizing all standard tests, defending standardized tests and Mensa, along with accusations of ableism, lamenting the loneliness and social ostracization that is the lot of smart people and horror at Jill's very appalling anti-intellectualism.

SweetMachine nicely rounds up the kerfuffle: Way to fight the good fight, Mensa lovers! Put that genius to work!



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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 02:38 pm UTC (link)
Wow, their minimum intake is that low?

...I could get into MENSA if that's all they require.

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[info]white_tean
2010-08-18 02:56 pm UTC (link)
Whoops, sorry, I think you replied to my comment which I deleted and reposted below; I have previously been tested in the top 2%, and I cannot even remember that I'm using firefox and not chrome, and that therefore I'll have to actually re-read my comments for typos in order not to sound like an idiot when making a point about intelligence.

Seriously, I hope no one labelled a genius would ever be classed with me.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 03:14 pm UTC (link)
Actually, the bit that I was responding to doesn't seem to have changed - I was expressing amazement that 130-140 is the minimum IQ level for MENSA applicants. I always knew that that was a good IQ range, I was just surprised that it was a MENSA-level one.

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tetradecimal
2010-08-18 03:36 pm UTC (link)
Wow, I could get in, too. But what would we talk about?

I mean, besides Cathy and being excluded.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 03:44 pm UTC (link)
How surprised we are that we could get in? :P

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tetradecimal
2010-08-18 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Maybe the meetings are kind of like dinner parties where the people on one end are old money and the people on the other are over-excitable new money who just discovered their Mensa-ness and there's silent judging.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 03:52 pm UTC (link)
Is it bad that my first thought was, "Meh, sounds like the way my family judge people all the time, I can deal"? :P

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tetradecimal
2010-08-18 03:55 pm UTC (link)
*judges*

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 03:58 pm UTC (link)
Help, help, I'm being oppressed! Come see the violence inherent in MENSA!

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-08-18 08:59 pm UTC (link)
oh HELL yes.

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[info]evilsqueakers
2010-08-18 11:40 pm UTC (link)
So...basically a fancy dinner with Emily Gilmore?

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-18 03:38 pm UTC (link)
It actually depends what IQ score you take. Actually, here's a list of all the different scores on different tests they accept. I got in on the basis of my SAT scores (if you got a 1250 combined score on your SATs before 1994, that's good enough).

They kind of prefer to administer their own test, though.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2010-08-18 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the list, but none of that is particularly useful to me; I'm Australian, and bizarrely, their Australian site simply refuses to load.

In any case, I'm not interested in joining (though I was when I was a teenager; I thought it'd be the coolest thing ever), even if my IQ is high enough; I just found it interesting that my IQ apparently is high enough. :P

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-18 04:19 pm UTC (link)
No, I hear ya. I got kind of bored with it after only a couple years anyway.

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[info]mmanurere
2010-08-18 09:54 pm UTC (link)
Ah, "their own test"...I remember when someone posted a few questions from the Mensa test (pattern-recognition section, maybe?) and had fun coming up with at least one perfectly-valid reason that each possible answer could be described as correct.

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[info]txvoodoo
2010-08-20 04:34 am UTC (link)
Well, shit. I qualify with at least 3 measurements there.

But I'm pretty sure I'm smart enough to be able to figure out which groups are full of asshats, so therefore, I'll abstain ;)

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[info]snarkhunter
2010-08-23 06:07 pm UTC (link)
My therapist suggested that I join MENSA to help meet new people and make new friends in town. I believe I made this face: D:<

(Other, more recent suggestions from therapist: rent a room in a house as a way to reduce isolation [NO. I LIKE living alone]; change diet to minimize risk of autoimmune diseases. I probably need a new therapist.)

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-18 03:40 pm UTC (link)
But, yeah, I feel you on the "that's all it takes? REALLY?" reaction - that's the reaction I had when I took a look at the "alternate scores" page and saw, to my great shock, that my SATs were good enough. It sent me into a two-minute giggle fit because the idea of me being MENSA material was just thoroughly ridiculous.

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[info]sgaana
2010-08-19 02:48 am UTC (link)
Same here. I read that and went, "... seriously?" Because at the time, I considered my SAT scores to be a tad on the low side. (The math part killed me.)

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