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cheryl_bites ([info]cheryl_bites) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-08-25 14:09:00


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Entry tags:books, greatest author whom ever lived!

Vintage book wank exclamation mark
(Apologies for the age of this wank [2007] and the shortage of fights, but the strangeness mostly makes up for it.)

Once there was a man called Nathan Carnes. Nathan really liked exclamation marks and the word “whom”, and he wrote a book called Space Ark! so that he could use both frequently. He also liked rainbows and the Copperplate font, so he created a website to promote his opus, and found a vanity publisher who was prepared to realise his dream of the world’s most amateurish cover.



The opening sentence of the Excerpt page:

Oceana's triplicate synthetic recreation from the Space Ark's enormous registry of binary data was the first Being to be regenerated from the Terrestrial Ark's voluminous digital archives of androgynous doubles and carnal genetic ancestors.

(This is probably my favourite sentence:

For, no one ever grew tired of strolling nightly each month on the trinity of special eves to gaze awestruck skyward to the nighttime heavens if only to delight in their beloved nocturnal spectacle of sacred light.

I think it’s the comma.)

But, of course, if he’d just stopped there, it wouldn’t be a wank. What’s more, he was getting restless. During its 15 years (!) of vanity publication, the book had managed to sell only 2,700 copies (er, he says). Accordingly, Nathan sent what I assume was intended to be a query letter to literary agent Miss Snark [blog is archival], and, further, promised to let her see sample pages for the low, low price of $35!



A copy of the manuscript with digital color cover and inside illustrations is not free to publishers or agents. You MUST purchase a copy of the ENTIRE BOOK via our web site to peruse it. No sample chapters will be sent; no exceptions. No author biography or synopsis will be sent as all such preliminary info. is available at www.spaceark.net... You should be willing to make a minor investment on an item whose potential for manifold return is great! If not, then we're not interested in doing business with you.

Miss Snark was laughing too hard to mock much, but the 146 commenters had quite a lot to say (much of it to do with whether it’s possible for a work to have an exclamation mark in its title and still be good, but we’ve not got space for that). One of them was author Ben Jeapes, who had once worked as a publisher and remembered Nathan Carnes well; Nathan was the one who called him dense, a dumb-ass, a dodo and a dilettante. (Oh, and a jerk and a “wanna-be publisher” as well, but they don’t alliterate.)

you're obviously in the wrong biz; I suggest the law for you in which to dabble next, Mr. wet-behind-the-ears Dilettante, as you like to argue for no apparent purpose except to waste your time writing e-mails instead of looking at web sites which feature authors' books!

PS We can't use ya', sorry... Finally, take note: this is a rejection of you & your puny service which needs to be overtly stated to some one as dense as you... Got it? GOOD!


Regrettably, I’ve been unable to find any more of Nathan’s public utterances. I am disappointed about this because I’m pretty sure every one of them is gold. Oh, well; I shall take comfort from his “reviews”, which feature an ENT specialist, one of the agents condemned by Preditors and Editors and someone who says, “Your vocabulary is one of the richest I have encountered. Wow!” (Hint: there are times when that’s not a good thing.)



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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 02:39 pm UTC (link)
I'm a literary manager for a theater company. I run a playwriting contest every year.

It is totally evil of me to admit this, but -- I so, so love the so-bad-it's-good entries we get. But I especially love the occasional unsolicited emails we get from playwrights who haven't researched the fact that we don't accept plays outside of our contest, but are clearly just emailing their work to every known literary manager in the country.
Becuase that's where the good batshit comes in. Like:

* the fifteen-minute play -- divided into two acts complete with a scene change and an intermission -- about two couples at a cocktail party discussing the fact that one of the husbands is fucking a chicken

* the sci-fi play about a group of scientists who manage to cross a flower with an air filter so as to create a flower that filters out air pollution, and then decide to grow it on the MOON (note: this play was also bi-lingual in English and Chinese -- literally; each and every line was first delivered in English and then repeated, in its entirety, in Chinese)

* the play that managed to get wrong not only conventions of storytelling and dramaturgy, but also erred when it came to police procedure in Ireland, whether or not nuns are clairvoyant, basic human biology, Irish geography, and principles of fluid dynamics and air currents (don't even ASK me to explain this)

They will never get produced, but these shows are always very special to me. In their own way.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 02:41 pm UTC (link)
D'oh -- I forgot to mention that this, then, is why I also love this kind of self-produced work. There's something just so...earnest about them all that you want to pat them on the head and say, "well, BLESS your heart now."

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[info]cygnia
2010-08-25 03:18 pm UTC (link)
Indeed. Is it sad my first thought was "At least he didn't go to PublishAmerica"?

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[info]cheryl_bites
2010-08-25 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I doubt it even existed then!

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[info]lindentreeisle
2010-08-25 06:15 pm UTC (link)
Not that they'd be up to his exacting standards anyway.

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(no subject) - [info]kosaginolegion, 2010-08-26 11:22 am UTC

[info]duraniedrama
2010-08-26 12:01 pm UTC (link)
D'oh -- I forgot to mention that this, then, is why I also love this kind of self-produced work. There's something just so...earnest about them all that you want to pat them on the head and say, "well, BLESS your heart now."

This explains some of the appeal of The Room, I think.

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[info]hadesphoenix
2010-08-27 09:43 am UTC (link)
We had to watch that movie for a class. I later received an email from a classmate who said, in all seriousness, that it was "metalogical beyond belief," the most brilliant surrealist film he'd ever seen, gritty in forcing the audience to witness the absurdity of human drama, and that he anticipates it being the start of an avant-garde movement.

Or...something.

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(no subject) - [info]miss_padfoot, 2010-08-27 05:21 pm UTC
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[info]anonyrat
2010-09-06 10:43 pm UTC (link)
STORY TIME:

In my last year of high school (nearly a decade ago at this point), I had a drama teacher. This drama teacher was certifiably nuts. Case in point: she was, for a very brief span, the manager of a youth theater group I was involved with. At some point, she sat us all down and explained to us, in detail, how God Himself had appeared to her in a vision and told her to move from New York to Florida to run our theater.

Shortly after that, the theater group tanked due to her mismanagement, and she bailed on the sinking ship and got a job at my high school. So much for the commands of God.

How she got the job, I'll never know. The first semester with her was largely uneventful, but the second...oh, the second semester, she came into class on the first day and announced that she was writing us a PLAY.

This play, which was only fully written about three weeks before it debuted, was actually called "The Room". The plot is totally different from the movie -- our "Room" was basically "No Exit", only the location was never explained and with way too many people instead of just three -- but in both cases the director insisted it was dead serious until it turned out the AUDIENCE thought it was funny too, in which case it retroactively became a black comedy.

Needless to say, when I discovered The Room was a bad-movie cult sensation now, I did a hell of a double-take.

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[info]tofuknight
2010-08-25 03:28 pm UTC (link)
(don't even ASK me to explain this)

How serious are you about this point? Because I am now totally fascinated by this concept and wish to know more about this hilarity of badness.

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[info]chaos_theory
2010-08-25 03:58 pm UTC (link)
Seriously. I want details, quotes, links to the appropriate wikipedia pages about the laws of thermodynamics being violated. It's a terrible sin to build up my curiosity and then not follow through.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 05:50 pm UTC (link)
I can't divulge too many more details about any of the shows I've mentioned (I'm REALLY paranoid about the playwright stumbling across this and thinking, "hey!") -- but the whole thermodynamics thing: it was fluid dynamics and air currents, actually. And that was in reference to one little recurring detail -- the whole show was narrated by one character who then hung back and let two other characters have most of the action -- except the narrator would periodically release a kite to fly into the air at key points of the action, for...some kind of...effect, I guess.

The thing was, these kites were supposed to fly upon their release, and as far as I can tell, were supposed to remain flying for the balance of the show each time. Which...would be difficult to have happen, because of kites typically needing, y'know, wind, and there's rather a dearth of wind indoors.

Of course the playwright would say that the kites were a must-have because they symbolized the main characters' "sense of liberty". Of course the playwright would say that this was something you couldn't cut. of course.

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(no subject) - [info]chaos_theory, 2010-08-25 06:23 pm UTC
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Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]sequinedlizard, 2010-08-25 07:28 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]queencallipygos, 2010-08-25 07:55 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]sequinedlizard, 2010-08-25 08:06 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]queencallipygos, 2010-08-25 08:15 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]sequinedlizard, 2010-08-25 11:57 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]risha, 2010-08-26 02:52 am UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]sequinedlizard, 2010-08-26 03:48 am UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]tofuknight, 2010-08-26 09:23 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]sequinedlizard, 2010-08-27 12:27 am UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]brennalarose, 2010-08-26 01:31 pm UTC
Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box - [info]dragonfangirl, 2010-09-04 07:46 pm UTC
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[info]eiviiaru
2010-08-25 03:55 pm UTC (link)
I would see the show about the dude fucking a chicken.

I'm not proud of myself.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 05:54 pm UTC (link)
You never witness any actual chicken sex. The only thing you see is right at the top of the show, one character pulls his hand out of his pocket, and a couple feathers fall out - and the other guy asks about them, and the chicken-fuckers' wife calls him on it ("Wait, Harry, I thought you stopped it with the chicken?") -- and then after that it's just fifteen minutes' worth of the guys waxing rhapsodic about how cool chicken sex is and the women swapping world-weary "men -- can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em, eh?" quips.

And that's all that happens. It actually took the topic of avian bestiality and made it boring.

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[info]eiviiaru
2010-08-25 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Man, that's a gigantic disappointment. (I do sort of like the implication that the dude actually had some kind of ongoing affair with the chicken, though, instead of it being just a fuck-and-run.)

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(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2010-08-25 07:58 pm UTC

[info]snarkhunter
2010-08-25 11:55 pm UTC (link)
Pfft. Ionesco made people turning into rhinos boring.

(...er, not an Ionesco fan, here. Have never forgiven anyone involved for making me read Rhinocerus. And, yes, I do GET it. I just think it's stupid and amazingly boring, considering that everyone turns into a rhino.)

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[info]tunxeh
2010-08-26 04:08 am UTC (link)
The scene of Roberto Benigni waxing rhapsodic for fifteen minutes about sheep sex in Night on Earth is pretty entertaining, though. So if done right...

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[info]kylenne
2010-08-25 06:49 pm UTC (link)
All I could think of was Chicken Lover from South Park.

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[info]bienegold
2010-08-25 07:08 pm UTC (link)
I know she's not a chicken, but I still thought of that one Harry/Hedwig fic.

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[info]underwaterowl
2010-08-30 08:29 am UTC (link)
Totally redeemable.

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[info]cheryl_bites
2010-08-25 03:56 pm UTC (link)
I must admit to being deeply curious about the Irish one with the flying psychic nuns. (Plus, don't quite a lot of plants filter air pollution anyway?)

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Oh, the nun wasn't intentionally psychic. The nun character knew something, but the writer forgot to explain how the nun knew that, and there was no other way for the nun to know except for her to be psychic. It wasn't a case of "psychic nun", it was a case of "sloppy playwright."

And only the kites were supposed to fly. Somehow. Indoors in an enclosed theater.

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[info]kitt_in_socks
2010-08-25 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Keep fucking that chicken.

The bilingual moon flower story sounds absolutely fascinating in a "how high were they that this sounded like a good idea" sort of way.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 06:13 pm UTC (link)
The fascinating thing about a lot of these plays is that I have never, ever had the sense that drugs were involved at any point. Which means...people are thinking up things like this on their own.

That is, they're thinking them up without being on drugs. Some of the things I see may have been influenced by other PLAYWRIGHTS, though (there are a LOT of would-be playwrights who go a little funny in the head the first time they read anything by Christopher Durang, I think).

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2010-08-25 08:26 pm UTC (link)
Or everyone who thinks he's the next Beckett.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2010-09-04 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the moon flower one actually sounds kinda interesting. You could have an, um, unique setup where you cast two actors for every role, and have them each stand on one side of the stage which is divided in half, and deliver to the audience in each language simultaneously. Of course, I'd hate to be in the Chinese section of the audience at that performance, since I don't speak Chinese. (On the other hand, maybe it would make about the same amount of sense either way? That was my experience of PotC 3 seen in Japanese theaters with no subtitles.)

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