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cheryl_bites ([info]cheryl_bites) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-08-25 14:09:00


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Entry tags:books, greatest author whom ever lived!

Vintage book wank exclamation mark
(Apologies for the age of this wank [2007] and the shortage of fights, but the strangeness mostly makes up for it.)

Once there was a man called Nathan Carnes. Nathan really liked exclamation marks and the word “whom”, and he wrote a book called Space Ark! so that he could use both frequently. He also liked rainbows and the Copperplate font, so he created a website to promote his opus, and found a vanity publisher who was prepared to realise his dream of the world’s most amateurish cover.



The opening sentence of the Excerpt page:

Oceana's triplicate synthetic recreation from the Space Ark's enormous registry of binary data was the first Being to be regenerated from the Terrestrial Ark's voluminous digital archives of androgynous doubles and carnal genetic ancestors.

(This is probably my favourite sentence:

For, no one ever grew tired of strolling nightly each month on the trinity of special eves to gaze awestruck skyward to the nighttime heavens if only to delight in their beloved nocturnal spectacle of sacred light.

I think it’s the comma.)

But, of course, if he’d just stopped there, it wouldn’t be a wank. What’s more, he was getting restless. During its 15 years (!) of vanity publication, the book had managed to sell only 2,700 copies (er, he says). Accordingly, Nathan sent what I assume was intended to be a query letter to literary agent Miss Snark [blog is archival], and, further, promised to let her see sample pages for the low, low price of $35!



A copy of the manuscript with digital color cover and inside illustrations is not free to publishers or agents. You MUST purchase a copy of the ENTIRE BOOK via our web site to peruse it. No sample chapters will be sent; no exceptions. No author biography or synopsis will be sent as all such preliminary info. is available at www.spaceark.net... You should be willing to make a minor investment on an item whose potential for manifold return is great! If not, then we're not interested in doing business with you.

Miss Snark was laughing too hard to mock much, but the 146 commenters had quite a lot to say (much of it to do with whether it’s possible for a work to have an exclamation mark in its title and still be good, but we’ve not got space for that). One of them was author Ben Jeapes, who had once worked as a publisher and remembered Nathan Carnes well; Nathan was the one who called him dense, a dumb-ass, a dodo and a dilettante. (Oh, and a jerk and a “wanna-be publisher” as well, but they don’t alliterate.)

you're obviously in the wrong biz; I suggest the law for you in which to dabble next, Mr. wet-behind-the-ears Dilettante, as you like to argue for no apparent purpose except to waste your time writing e-mails instead of looking at web sites which feature authors' books!

PS We can't use ya', sorry... Finally, take note: this is a rejection of you & your puny service which needs to be overtly stated to some one as dense as you... Got it? GOOD!


Regrettably, I’ve been unable to find any more of Nathan’s public utterances. I am disappointed about this because I’m pretty sure every one of them is gold. Oh, well; I shall take comfort from his “reviews”, which feature an ENT specialist, one of the agents condemned by Preditors and Editors and someone who says, “Your vocabulary is one of the richest I have encountered. Wow!” (Hint: there are times when that’s not a good thing.)



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[info]chaos_theory
2010-08-25 06:23 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! That would have driven me NUTS. I have a terrible problem when watching tv or movies of getting ridiculously caught up by things that are unexplainedly unscientific, to the point that I can't focus on anything else and to explain to everyone around me precisely why what we have just seen is wrong, with citations and wikipedia articles. People flying and having magic powers and sexy vampires walking around with no pants on (Thank you True Blood) are AOK, but the second James Bond jumps off a cliff after his airplane, catches it in midair, climbs in, starts it up and flies to safety (I'm looking at you Golden Eye), I am done.

As a result, I watch a lot of TV alone to keep from being bludgeoned with living room furnishings.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 06:28 pm UTC (link)
I was thinking of it from the perspective of a stage manager (I've been one of those too), because the only way to have a kite flying indoors would be to rig up some kind of flying apparatus that was radio-controlled or something, and this is EXACTLY the kind of crap they give to stage managers to figure out how to do and there is no way in HELL any stage manager I know would do this without having the Mythbusters production budget on hand.

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[info]kookaburra
2010-08-25 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Helium? Maybe the playwright would agree to substitute balloons instead of kites? But then you'd have to make sure there were no sharp pointy bits on the ceiling.

...I'm putting more thought into the play than it deserved, aren't I?

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[info]eiviiaru
2010-08-25 07:26 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, if you had the kites on wires, you could probably make it work without too much complication or expense. That said, the effect would unquestionably be way more goofy than inspiring.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 07:36 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, if you had the kites on wires, you could probably make it work without too much complication or expense.

(Warning: Stage manger brain now engaged.)

Okay. If the kites were on wires, they would have to lay track for those wires to run on, find stagehands dedicated to controlling each one of those wires for the rest of the show, and plot a course for each one without tangling the wires. Unless they just looped the wires over the rafters, in which case each kite would have a very, very short and two-dimensional flight path.

Also -- I realize I didn't make this clear -- the kites were supposed to fly over the AUDIENCE, not just on the stage. So whatever means you used to control the flight of the kites, it would also have to be something the audience couldn't see.

And if you did go the "radio-control" route, you'd have to have someone on hand to do that, and also futz with finding a frequency that didn't interfere with the radio-controlled headsets the stage crew is using to communicate with each other...and find an operator who was able to control more than one at once, or hire multiple operators, because -- more than one kite.

...sorry -- this is what stage managers do, is think through things like this so they can take the director aside during production staff meetings and say, "you SURE you want to do this?"

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[info]eiviiaru
2010-08-25 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Also -- I realize I didn't make this clear -- the kites were supposed to fly over the AUDIENCE, not just on the stage. So whatever means you used to control the flight of the kites, it would also have to be something the audience couldn't see.

wait what

See, I was just picturing "kites fly up into the rafters of the stage, hover there for remainder of show"; you're right that it would take some complicated wire rigging, but I think it could still probably be managed. Flying them into the audience, though, is complete crazypants time.

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[info]tarash
2010-08-26 09:14 am UTC (link)
"Also -- I realize I didn't make this clear -- the kites were supposed to fly over the AUDIENCE, not just on the stage. So whatever means you used to control the flight of the kites, it would also have to be something the audience couldn't see."

I've been involved a couple of student theatre productions and the theatre we've always been in has lighting rigs and things like that, and I imagine most theatres do, so how the hell are you supposed to do a kite AS WELL AS hang up the proper lighting you want? Whatever rig you use for the kite is going to get in the way of the lighting rig.

I love it when people who have no experience with theatre whatsoever write a play.

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[info]brennalarose
2010-08-26 01:21 pm UTC (link)
*2nd gen theater techie brain engaged*

He wanted what? With what? Has he been eating the same mushrooms as CdS?

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Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]sequinedlizard
2010-08-25 07:28 pm UTC (link)
My last play production course, we were explicitly told "No walls!" Of course, one of my classmates tried to use them anyway. We also had the genius that thought a live flame, in glass, on stage, with barefoot actors was a good idea, and no one could argue them out of it. Of course, the candle tipped, broke the glass, and the actors redid all the blocking until we could clear the stage.

We also had the one set at a New Age festival where an actor was suddenly supposed to sprout bat wings and attack the other (two person show). And the "New Age consultant" was a wannabe called "Raven," despite having three fairly educated pagans in the class. I guess it worked in the "New Age" festival setting, although we had fun pointing out things that would never go together.

There was also a great moment during one of the mainstages where one of the professors, who was directing, decided that a character that was urban middle-class would be carrying an unplucked goose home from the store. So the character wound up giving a monologue holding an obviously fake goose by the neck. The head flopped into her cleavage, which distracted her, as one would expect. This was also the director that decided it'd be good to have one rehearsal where the actors had to remove articles of clothing as they practiced a scene in order to build up their feelings of vulnerability. That... did not go over well.

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[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 07:55 pm UTC (link)
The one and only time in my entire ten-year career that I ever put my foot down and refused to do something a director wanted to do was when a guy didn't like the way the gunshot sound effect we had sounded, and so he wanted to shoot off AN ACTUAL GUN backstage just so it would sound "more accurate."

To be fair, it was a starter's pistol rather than a real GUN gun, but even that can be very, very dangerous (just ask Jon-Erik Hexum and Brandon Lee). Those of you not in the know -- stage managers are PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for ensuring safe working conditions for everyone in the production as well, and this includes following some VERY, VERY strict rules involving guns. Even starter's pistols. And they weren't going to be possible for this show.

We just went back and forth with him coming up with lots of "but if I ask the cast to be really really careful" begging and me just saying "I'm sorry, but NO" and finally he went with the "slap two pieces of wood together" idea we'd suggested at first and decided he liked it after all.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]sequinedlizard
2010-08-25 08:06 pm UTC (link)
We lucked out and managed to have a setup so we COULD use a starter's pistol for a gunshot in one show. But MAN, that was a logistical tango - making sure there were no actors around, there was somewhere to point it that wasn't near anyone, all of it. After that show closed, one of our techies found an amazing recording that worked really well for other productions, although we still had our wood pieces labeled "gunshot" handy :)

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]queencallipygos
2010-08-25 08:15 pm UTC (link)
But MAN, that was a logistical tango - making sure there were no actors around, there was somewhere to point it that wasn't near anyone, all of it.

Yeah, that was precisely our problem -- our backstage area was so tiny and cramped that there WAS nowhere we could fire it backstage that didn't have enough space clearance without hitting either humans or walls.

Fortunately, a college friend of mine was a combat choreographer at the time, and I got him to quickly shoot me a detailed written description of "what could go wrong if you use a starters' pistol unsafely" so I could show it to the director if I ever needed to. He backed down before I had to, but I had all these gory horror stories in reserve that would have scared him RIGHT good.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]sequinedlizard
2010-08-25 11:57 pm UTC (link)
We had a similar booklet of "what can happen when you don't build a hanging rig correctly" - that was the one that made me put my foot down. One whackjob professor/director wanted to do a hanging scene, and didn't want to bother with a harness for the actors. He just wanted to loop rope around their chest!

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]risha
2010-08-26 02:52 am UTC (link)
ow ow ow ow ow ow ow

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]sequinedlizard
2010-08-26 03:48 am UTC (link)
Yeeaaahh. He was not possessed of common sense.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]tofuknight
2010-08-26 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Clearly, the (ir)responsible answer to that is:

"So, you'll be testing it out first, of course."

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]sequinedlizard
2010-08-27 12:27 am UTC (link)
I may have used similar language to threaten him.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]brennalarose
2010-08-26 01:31 pm UTC (link)
At my old High School, drama kids with older siblings used to tell the story of the production of The Pajama Game with the exploding sewing machine... that was rigged backwards and didn't go off at the right time. So the stage manager said, "Hang on, I've got this," and stuck his face in the machine. I hear his eyebrows grew back before finals, at least. But, there was a new rule named after him. No explosions on stage. If the play has explosions, the principal is within her rights to let the teacher throw things at you.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]dragonfangirl
2010-09-04 07:46 pm UTC (link)
This has been a highly entertaining thread.

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Re: Ahh, memories of my time in the black box
[info]lissa_b
2010-08-27 10:32 pm UTC (link)
My high school theatre company was over-cautious about anything even theoretically dangerous happening onstage. We put on a murder mystery that, of course, involved the murderer brandishing a gun at the rest of the cast in the climactic scene. The sound effect wasn't the problem, though, we'd happily used the "slap two pieces of wood" method for years.

At some point during rehearsals, the school decided that it was too edgy to have a prop gun onstage, lest someone think it was real. So we suggested a bright pink and purple squirt gun. No, still too edgy. Okay, maybe not a gun. A rubber knife? Certainly not. The last ditch effort before we just gave up was having her hold a game system controller as a bomb detonator, but that was still out. What did we finally get cleared to use?

A giant. pink. crayola. crayon. bank.

This was made even more irritating a month later, when the music department put on Oklahoma! and everyone got a shiny silver prop gun to wave around as they pleased.

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[info]sandglass
2010-08-25 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Now I'm imagining a Mythbusters play and it's making me very happy.

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[info]jkefka
2010-08-26 11:47 am UTC (link)
Reminds me, I should finish that Mythbusters zombie apocalypse thing I was working on...

...then turn it into a play. BWAHAHAHAHA

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