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Bougielala mothafucka ([info]thoms) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-11-04 11:13:00


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Entry tags:food, plagiarism

Public domain... I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
I came across this on twitter, thanks to John Scalzi.

Back in 2005, Monica Gaudio wrote an Ice Dragon (? I don't know what this is.) entry called A Tale of Two Tarts that appeared on the Godecookery website. It is copyrighted and on a web-domain that Monica herself owns.

Last week, a friend contacted her, asking her how she had gotten published! Monica's answer "I... didn't?"

Turns out, she had. The magazine Cooks Source (Facebook here, they are also a paper publication.) had lifted her article from the Godecookery site and put it in their magazine.

She contacts the magazine via phone and then through the "Contact Us" link on the website, and exchanges emails with them. Finally, they ask her "what she wants." She replies that she wants an apology on Facebook, a printed apology in the magazine, and $130 donated to the Columbia School of Journalism.

What she got in response was this (quoted from her post):

Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, having been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine. I do know about copyright laws. It was "my bad" indeed, and, as the magazine is put together in long sessions, tired eyes and minds somethings forget to do these things.

But honestly Monica, the web is considered "public domain" and you should be happy we just didn't "lift" your whole article and put someone else's name on it! It happens a lot, clearly more than you are aware of, especially on college campuses, and the workplace. If you took offence and are unhappy, I am sorry, but you as a professional should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. Now it will work well for your portfolio. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. We put some time into rewrites, you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free!


Monica is rightfully mad.

[info]nihilistic_kid on LJ has a post about it here as well. And Scalzi posted on his blog as well.

And John Scalzi linked to his recipe for Schadenfreude Pie on the Cooks Resource Facebook wall here, with a plea that they "don't steal it." Bwah!

EDIT: The Smart Bitches have picked it up.

Also, people are looking. And unshockingly, this isn't the first time this has happened. This Pancetta and Green Onion Tart? Is copyright to Giada deLaurentiis, and appears on the Food Network website under her name.

EDIT of "Oh Fuck, The Internet is Here" - The cookssource.com website is down. Dear Author and Gawker have both picked it up.

EDIT the Heidipology: This is the last one from me, anything else will have to go into the comments, cause I'm going out and having me a drink from a non-plagiarized source. Judith Griggs has "apologised" via the wall of the Facebook account. Facebook is linked up above. Marvel, will you? (Screencap here in case she takes it down.)



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[info]queencallipygos
2010-11-04 07:39 pm UTC (link)
One of my very dear friends is Irish -- we were pen pals when we were twelve and it just built from there. About ten years ago she finally came to visit me here in the US -- one of the afternoons she was here, another friend and I took her through Little Italy together, and we wanted to take her to a classic New York Little Italy coffee house, with insanely rich pastries and fabulous coffee beverages and stuff like that. We decided to let her pick which one of the many coffeehouses we should go to, and did that by walking her up to each window and letting her look at the selection and waiting for her to say "here's the place." But instead, she was just so overwhelmed by everything that her face was stuck in this sort of perma-daze - she had a big grin, wide eyes, and we could tell that she was just overjoyed beyond the capacity to express thought.

I tell this story because that's kind of the look I have on my face right now.

(Yeah, I know that I also posted this verbatim over in a thread about the return of Potterdammerung. That also made me do Cliona's happy face.)

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[info]julesnoctambule
2010-11-04 07:46 pm UTC (link)
Looks like Paula Deen, NPR, Martha Stewart and Disney are also among their 'contributors'. Will the lawyers choose to have them roasted or grilled, I wonder?

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[info]senor_pinata
2010-11-04 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Consumerist picked it up too

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[info]cyan_aura
2010-11-04 08:03 pm UTC (link)
picked up by Guardian! That's like a real media outlet, right?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/nov/04/cooks-source-copyright-complaint

does that mean it's a Real Live Boy now? Media, how do they work

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[info]wallflower
2010-11-04 08:16 pm UTC (link)
Someone told Paula Deen, who says it's been forwarded to the legal department (here).

It's also hit the Washington Post.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-04 08:17 pm UTC (link)
"On the Internet, everyone knows you're an ass."

But seriously, am I the only one who's unnerved at how huge this dogpile has gotten? I mean, yeah, the lady's a plagiarizing jerk, but still... it's a tiny, poorly-made magazine, and... Argh, but then, there's no excuse for that smug response... :\

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[info]made_by_kali
2010-11-04 08:24 pm UTC (link)
Oh god, it's beautiful. *wipes tear*

I will also encourage my father (who gets the magazine) to never buy the rag again.

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[info]cyan_aura
2010-11-04 08:26 pm UTC (link)
woot.com: "World's Dumbest Editor Incurs The Wrath Of The Internet"

http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=14952

also apparently the use of the verb "griggs" is picking up steam; it means to copy something off the internet and use it figuring it's up for grabs. SBTB started a google bomb effort on it, and it seems to be working...

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(no subject) - [info]caito, 2010-11-05 03:54 pm UTC

[info]queencallipygos
2010-11-04 08:40 pm UTC (link)
I think everyone broke the site. I just tried venturing over to Cooks' Source and am getting a "this site is down" notice from the host.

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[info]cyan_aura
2010-11-04 08:43 pm UTC (link)
aaand Wil Wheaton makes a modest proposal:

http://twitter.com/#!/wilw/status/29698038668

usage example:

http://twitter.com/#!/wilw/status/29698189950

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2010-11-04 08:46 pm UTC (link)
I've been following this all day and all I can say is that it is a perfect storm of plagiarism, asshattery and internet vengeance.

Regular popcorn will not suffice for this show. I need something fancy.

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[info]cyan_aura
2010-11-04 08:53 pm UTC (link)
okay, time for that whole "go to work" thing but I'm calling this the best line on the FB page:

"All your bouillabase are belong to us."

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[info]cyan_aura
2010-11-04 09:12 pm UTC (link)
okay, one more because this is just starting up: reading comments on any of the stories and you'll start seeing these type of comments:

"oh you big meanies you're cyber bullying that poor magazine! Haven't you done enough?"

Yeahhhh...

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[info]lady7jane
2010-11-04 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I love this. Is it because the original author had such a healthy attitude about it that it's turned into this massive spanking, with everyone just kind of having fun with it?

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[info]puipui
2010-11-04 09:20 pm UTC (link)
From the Facebook comments:

Dear Judith Griggs,

I am writing to you because I feel that you have plagiarized my time. You see, I had all kinds of plans for this afternoon, but upon discovery of your epic fail, I was too busy chortling at your stupidity to do anything else. I would like compensation for this time that you stole from me. And please ...don't tell me that you improved it and I should compensate you.

Sincerely,
The Internet


YES! YOU OWE ME, JUDITH GRIGGS! AND ALL THE REST OF US, TOO! I HAD SHIT THAT I NEEDED TO GET DONE!

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[info]feenix
2010-11-04 10:11 pm UTC (link)
we used to have 110 "friends, we now have 1,870

Wrong. You still have 110 friends. You just have 1,760 enemies now.

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[info]drakyndra
2010-11-04 10:14 pm UTC (link)
This wank is a great and glorious thing. Dammit, why has the last week had such entertaining wank? (Though the FA one was more infuriating than fun)

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Judith Griggs comments on her wall
[info]overlord_mordax
2010-11-04 11:25 pm UTC (link)
"Judith Griggs You children should really go to bed soon, or you won't be up in time for school tomorrow!"

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Re: Judith Griggs comments on her wall - [info]overlord_mordax, 2010-11-04 11:28 pm UTC

nam_jai
2010-11-04 11:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh, wow, that "apology." That Doppler effect you hear is the sound of the clue bus zooming past her and on down the road.

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2010-11-05 02:37 pm UTC

[info]ruslan
2010-11-04 11:30 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it would be somebody from Connecticut, wouldn't it?

*is from Connecticut*

*the poor, post-industrial apocalyptic wasteland part*

*sighs deeply, mutters something about the revolution and those first up against the wall*

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(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2010-11-04 11:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruslan, 2010-11-04 11:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2010-11-05 01:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruslan, 2010-11-05 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]anthologia, 2010-11-05 10:23 pm UTC

[info]spawn_of_kong
2010-11-04 11:30 pm UTC (link)
After such a crappy week, this wank is positively delicious, in more ways than one!

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[info]harrylovesron
2010-11-05 12:15 am UTC (link)
That Heidipology is glorious.

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[info]vampychick
2010-11-05 12:40 am UTC (link)
From the screencap of that delicious Heidipology:

Cook's Source: Oh, shit, the Internet is here.
BoingBoing: INTERNET! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?!
Internet: HAROO! HAROO! HAROO!


Indeed.

God, this wank has made my day. Possibly my week.

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2010-11-05 02:38 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2010-11-05 12:49 am UTC (link)
Any serious apology that includes "my bad!" without a trace of irony should result in a flogging for the apologist.

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[info]sisterelwood
2010-11-05 01:39 am UTC (link)
This is... this is a thing of EPIC beauty. Please, please, Judith, tell me more about copyright law! I want to learn from the master.

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