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Bougielala mothafucka ([info]thoms) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-11-04 11:13:00


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Entry tags:food, plagiarism

Public domain... I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
I came across this on twitter, thanks to John Scalzi.

Back in 2005, Monica Gaudio wrote an Ice Dragon (? I don't know what this is.) entry called A Tale of Two Tarts that appeared on the Godecookery website. It is copyrighted and on a web-domain that Monica herself owns.

Last week, a friend contacted her, asking her how she had gotten published! Monica's answer "I... didn't?"

Turns out, she had. The magazine Cooks Source (Facebook here, they are also a paper publication.) had lifted her article from the Godecookery site and put it in their magazine.

She contacts the magazine via phone and then through the "Contact Us" link on the website, and exchanges emails with them. Finally, they ask her "what she wants." She replies that she wants an apology on Facebook, a printed apology in the magazine, and $130 donated to the Columbia School of Journalism.

What she got in response was this (quoted from her post):

Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, having been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine. I do know about copyright laws. It was "my bad" indeed, and, as the magazine is put together in long sessions, tired eyes and minds somethings forget to do these things.

But honestly Monica, the web is considered "public domain" and you should be happy we just didn't "lift" your whole article and put someone else's name on it! It happens a lot, clearly more than you are aware of, especially on college campuses, and the workplace. If you took offence and are unhappy, I am sorry, but you as a professional should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. Now it will work well for your portfolio. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. We put some time into rewrites, you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free!


Monica is rightfully mad.

[info]nihilistic_kid on LJ has a post about it here as well. And Scalzi posted on his blog as well.

And John Scalzi linked to his recipe for Schadenfreude Pie on the Cooks Resource Facebook wall here, with a plea that they "don't steal it." Bwah!

EDIT: The Smart Bitches have picked it up.

Also, people are looking. And unshockingly, this isn't the first time this has happened. This Pancetta and Green Onion Tart? Is copyright to Giada deLaurentiis, and appears on the Food Network website under her name.

EDIT of "Oh Fuck, The Internet is Here" - The cookssource.com website is down. Dear Author and Gawker have both picked it up.

EDIT the Heidipology: This is the last one from me, anything else will have to go into the comments, cause I'm going out and having me a drink from a non-plagiarized source. Judith Griggs has "apologised" via the wall of the Facebook account. Facebook is linked up above. Marvel, will you? (Screencap here in case she takes it down.)


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[info]wankprophet
2010-11-04 06:12 pm UTC (link)
Well, gosh, as long as we're re-editing things that appear on public websites, I have to re-edit the awful diction, grammar and punctuation of that story Cooks Source e-mailed to Monica:

Yes, Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, so my edit-peen is the approximate size, and shape, of a very large burly mime. Unfortunately, during those three decades, I've been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine, so I admit my edit-peen has gone through a considerable amount of shrinkage. However, I do know about copyright laws. They're divided into three major categories: intellectual property, publication rights, and "my bad, long sessions, tired eyes and minds somethings forget to do these things." Incidentally, "minds something" is a phrase of my own coinage and is not to be re-edited into a coherent context. Do it and I'll shoot this adverbial clause. See if I won't, bitch.

But honestly Monica, anything we're not bright enough to think up is considered "public domain" and you should be happy we're not even bigger idiots, else we might have just "lifted" your whole article and random portions of the Bible and put someone else's name on it [exclamation mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark, glottal stop] It happens a lot, like whoa! and clearly more than you are aware of, especially we're on a deadline. If you took offence (note to self: offense? offence? am I British? Must ask Mom when I see her at Thanksgiving or possibly next 4th of July) and are unhappy, I am sorry, but you as a professional (or at least you will be if anybody ever gets around to paying you for your stories) should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. As per policy, we removed most of the necessary punctuation and implemented a stream-of-consciousness style that keeps the reader engrossed by turning reading into a game of 'figure out the transitions.' It's like a wonderful little side-quest except, instead of gold, your reward feeling a little better about that 'B' you got in freshman comp. Now it will work well for your portfolio if the Beat poets ever start hiring again. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. Could you please re-write said requests to match our own writing policy? We put some time into rewrites (Mad Lib books aren't easy to finish, you know,) so you should compensate me! . We put some time into rewrites, [so] you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or [for] rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free! When the day comes that I actually tell them that I'm giving them advice or letting them write for me, my edit-peen will grow mighty once more.



Incidentally, if my version of this lovely story appears in the latest edition of Mother Goose Tales, I am so suing the fuck out of each and every person who read this.

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[info]alexa
2010-11-04 07:49 pm UTC (link)
LOVES IT.

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[info]puipui
2010-11-04 09:09 pm UTC (link)
am I British? Must ask Mom when I see her at Thanksgiving or possibly next 4th of July)

This, I think, is my favorite part.

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[info]auralan
2010-11-04 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Do it and I'll shoot this adverbial clause.

*giggles madly*

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[info]mermaid4fic
2010-11-04 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Dude, that was beautiful. Kudos.

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[info]risha
2010-11-05 12:37 am UTC (link)
This rewrite is good and you should feel good.

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[info]wankismyfandom
2010-11-05 02:47 am UTC (link)
Now it will work well for your portfolio if the Beat poets ever start hiring again.

Well played. *still laughing*

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[info]bacon_lover
2010-11-07 03:09 am UTC (link)
Brilliant! So hilarious, so great.

Now it will work for your portfolio if the Beat poets ever start hiring again.

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