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Bougielala mothafucka ([info]thoms) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-11-04 11:13:00


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Entry tags:food, plagiarism

Public domain... I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
I came across this on twitter, thanks to John Scalzi.

Back in 2005, Monica Gaudio wrote an Ice Dragon (? I don't know what this is.) entry called A Tale of Two Tarts that appeared on the Godecookery website. It is copyrighted and on a web-domain that Monica herself owns.

Last week, a friend contacted her, asking her how she had gotten published! Monica's answer "I... didn't?"

Turns out, she had. The magazine Cooks Source (Facebook here, they are also a paper publication.) had lifted her article from the Godecookery site and put it in their magazine.

She contacts the magazine via phone and then through the "Contact Us" link on the website, and exchanges emails with them. Finally, they ask her "what she wants." She replies that she wants an apology on Facebook, a printed apology in the magazine, and $130 donated to the Columbia School of Journalism.

What she got in response was this (quoted from her post):

Yes Monica, I have been doing this for 3 decades, having been an editor at The Voice, Housitonic Home and Connecticut Woman Magazine. I do know about copyright laws. It was "my bad" indeed, and, as the magazine is put together in long sessions, tired eyes and minds somethings forget to do these things.

But honestly Monica, the web is considered "public domain" and you should be happy we just didn't "lift" your whole article and put someone else's name on it! It happens a lot, clearly more than you are aware of, especially on college campuses, and the workplace. If you took offence and are unhappy, I am sorry, but you as a professional should know that the article we used written by you was in very bad need of editing, and is much better now than was originally. Now it will work well for your portfolio. For that reason, I have a bit of a difficult time with your requests for monetary gain, albeit for such a fine (and very wealthy!) institution. We put some time into rewrites, you should compensate me! I never charge young writers for advice or rewriting poorly written pieces, and have many who write for me... ALWAYS for free!


Monica is rightfully mad.

[info]nihilistic_kid on LJ has a post about it here as well. And Scalzi posted on his blog as well.

And John Scalzi linked to his recipe for Schadenfreude Pie on the Cooks Resource Facebook wall here, with a plea that they "don't steal it." Bwah!

EDIT: The Smart Bitches have picked it up.

Also, people are looking. And unshockingly, this isn't the first time this has happened. This Pancetta and Green Onion Tart? Is copyright to Giada deLaurentiis, and appears on the Food Network website under her name.

EDIT of "Oh Fuck, The Internet is Here" - The cookssource.com website is down. Dear Author and Gawker have both picked it up.

EDIT the Heidipology: This is the last one from me, anything else will have to go into the comments, cause I'm going out and having me a drink from a non-plagiarized source. Judith Griggs has "apologised" via the wall of the Facebook account. Facebook is linked up above. Marvel, will you? (Screencap here in case she takes it down.)


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[info]queencallipygos
2010-11-04 08:19 pm UTC (link)
I've got a post on my own (lj) blog brewing about this. Long story short - speaking as a writer, I'm quite pleased that the rest of the world has gone after this asshat with EXTREME PREJUDICE.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-04 08:23 pm UTC (link)
I can definitely see that. I guess it's not so much the dogpile as... I guess I just can't imagine that outrageous response being written by someone of sound mind.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-04 08:32 pm UTC (link)
(Should probably mention I had an experience a few years ago with someone with the same "you should pay me for using your stuff" attitude, and she was clearly a couple onions short of a Frito pie.)

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[info]twinno
2010-11-04 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Dear god, what else goes into Frito pie?

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-04 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Here in central TX, chili, jalapeños, and cheese. Dunno about in other regions.

It is a gut-bomb of terrible beauty and vengeance.

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[info]sandglass
2010-11-04 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, no, you don't get to pull the mental illness card here. She fucking plagiarized and doesn't know shit about copyright law, those aren't symptoms.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-05 02:03 am UTC (link)
I wasn't trying to play a card, just grasping at straws, I guess, for a reason why anyone would act like this. But you're right - I shouldn't just assume there must be other troubles when someone's behaving outrageously. That's pretty insulting all around. My apologies.

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[info]sandglass
2010-11-05 02:13 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, I just can't stand it the way people trot out mental illness like it makes them more sympathetic, when it's just furthering the idea that mentally ill people are stupid/irrational/unable to partake in society.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-05 02:49 am UTC (link)
The "mentally ill means irrational" attitude bugs the crap out of me too, and yet there I was doing the reverse without even thinking about it, so I thank you (through a very embarrassed facepalm) for calling me out on that.

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[info]sandglass
2010-11-05 02:54 am UTC (link)
It's cool! We all need somebody to call us out sometimes!

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[info]red_eft
2010-11-04 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Ehhh, I dunno. My brother 'worked' for someone exactly like that. He's not mentally ill unless entitled jerkitude is a mental illness.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2010-11-04 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh, horseapples.

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[info]sgaana
2010-11-05 01:36 am UTC (link)
I can. "Being an entitled asshole" isn't a mental illness; there's a lot of people like this out there. She's stunningly self-absorbed, and I'm betting she's never been called on her shit before in a way that made her have to learn anything. She's really just your run of the mill bully in the guise of a middle-aged woman who's spent a bit too much time bluffing her way through small-town politics.

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[info]bigbigtruck
2010-11-05 02:14 am UTC (link)
Yeah, you're right. Someday it WILL fully sink in to my thick brain that there are adults who actually act this way.

And on that day, I will consume much vodka.

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