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galateus ([info]galateus) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-11-16 23:59:00


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Entry tags:godwin's, parents taking shit too seriously, sockpuppets, the 80s: era of innocence and good taste, think of the children

PTC clutches pearls; news at 11

Bleeped swear words: Threat or menace? Now with hilarious statistics!

Fish, barrel, I know, but it's the article comments that explode in wank proper, once bbbaldie opens the floodgates by siding with the PTC:

Not sure how many of you have actually raised children, but in my house in the 80's and 90's, I appreciated not having the foulest expletives on the TV shows my kids (and their parents) watched during primetime.

Ooh, sorry, you liberals, I know that our youngest kids shouldn't be shielded from the f-word, my apologies for offending you.

It's the typical "Exponential increase in swearing = DOWNFALL OF CIVILIZATION" wankery, mixed with the old chestnut "I don't want my kids to watch this, pervert" vs. "then change the channel, dumbass". But quite possibly the most concentrated source of WTF-ery in the whole thread is on page two from Harpua420:

This country will strangle itself on their "freedoms."

(This begs for some kind of '"scare quotes" make you more persuasive' tag.)

There's also some ouroboros-like reoccurring wank with atari030 when he refers back to his comments on last month's Ars article about the Parents Television Council (apparently this is His Thing - if you have an Ars account you can see through his profile that all but one of his posts are on the PTC articles); and an incredibly uncreative self-Godwinizing pro-PTC troll-sock created just for the occasion rears its ugly head at the end of page 4: selfrighteousliberalasshole (Joined: 16 Nov 2010 11:05 | Last visited: 16 Nov 2010 16:36 | Total posts: 1)

ETA: Finally reading atari030's older comments. My god, it's a lulz sundae with point-missing sprinkles smothered in NostalgiaVision sauce topped with a classic passive-aggressive flounce (which he immediately went back on as soon as another PTC article was posted, apparently):

  • *Honestly, when one looks back in time in terms of overall generational 'well being' one tends to pick the 50's and possibly the 80's as very idealistic points in American life. Hmmmm, it also just so happens that those time periods were ones of very (50's) and fairly (80's) prudish standards compared to today. Outside of the knowledge-base gained and technological advancements, I can't say there have been any marked strides in our cultural development since then. In fact, I think we've taken a great many steps backwards and regressed.
  • "Also, your fear of the youth of today showing a lack of discipline and morals is almost identical to the writings of Plato. Yes, we've been going to hell in a handbasket since 400 BC! "
    If you want to compare my writings to that of Plato, I'll gladly accept that. Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.
  • *in relative terms 80's MTV was like Howdy Doody. I think your parents will readily confirm my assertion.
  • "And parents in the 80's were complaining about the exact same thing. Their parents did the same. And their parents before them, and so on. Somehow society has managed not to implode upon itself. Do you not see the same pattern? "
    Sure I see the same pattern, but all that pattern tells me now that I'm older and that I have some perspective is that it's true. We're slowly getting worse and worse
  • *If you lived through the 80's you'd see that there's no real comarison between what was on in the 80s and what is on now. It's foolish to even try and argue that they're somehow comparable. It's like night and day different.
    I suspect that you didn't experience the 80's directly otherwise you wouldn't even question what I'm saying.
  • *Well, I'm out folks. There's only so much negativity one can take. Enjoy further discussions on these forums as I won't be.
    (....'Yay, the only guy that didn't agree with the rest of us left'....)
suggested tags:
think of the children, sockpuppets, godwin's, censorship, language, parents taking shit too seriously


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[info]puipui
2010-11-17 10:26 am UTC (link)
Y'know, it's odd, but I can think of at least three extremely popular 80's songs offhand that were fairly obviously about masturbation*, plus another that has always been rumored to have been about masturbation, plus "Darling Nikki" which specifically mentions public masturbation, and yet somehow I'm supposed to believe that 80's music was more innocent and pure because... what, because Reagan? Bitch, please. Tell that to the remains of the PMRC.


* Although, to be fair, one of these three was also rumored to have been about anal sex.

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[info]b_jellybean
2010-11-17 11:21 am UTC (link)
Okay, I have to know. I have "Dancing With Myself," "I Touch Myself," and "Relax" (which would be the one also maybe about anal sex). What's the rumored one? Am I missing something?

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[info]mooncalf
2010-11-17 11:33 am UTC (link)
There's also 'She-Bop'--and 'Turning Japanese', which becomes incredibly creepy and awesome once you realize that it's about a guy sitting alone in a room jerking off on a picture of his girlfriend. :D

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[info]brennalarose
2010-11-17 03:11 pm UTC (link)
Also, "Dancing in the Sheets", and I wish I could remember others.

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[info]puipui
2010-11-17 04:52 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe I forgot about "I Touch Myself"! I was thinking "Relax" (also potentially about anal sex), "Dancing with Myself" and "She-Bop", plus the rumored-but-I-have-a-hard-time-seeing-it "Turning Japanese".

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[info]sistercoyote
2010-11-17 05:49 pm UTC (link)
FGTH also had a song on the album that gave us Relax called "Crisco Kisses."

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[info]sgaana
2010-11-17 07:50 pm UTC (link)
Favorite actual-80s moment: I'm in the basement, which was where our tv that had cable was located, watching MTV. "Dancing With Myself" comes on, and happens to be playing while my Mom passes through in relation to laundry or something. She pauses and watches for a second. "No wonder he's dancing with himself -- who would want to dance WITH him?"

(Privately, I sort of had to agree; I was not a big Billy Idol fan. But this was extra wonderful because my Mom was older than most, she'd been in junior high during WWII, so it was even more "you kids..." than it might have been, given the 60s/70s had truly passed her by.)

(I've heard that "Turning Japanese" rumor as well, particularly that it was "prison slang". I raise a skeptical eyebrow.)

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[info]suzycat
2010-11-19 09:44 pm UTC (link)
But Billy Idol was blindingly pretty back then!

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[info]b_jellybean
2010-11-17 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Oh DUH, "She-Bop"!!!!! I can't really see "Turning Japanese" either, but then again I'm not sure I get anything about that song.

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[info]aaron_agonistes
2010-11-17 10:41 pm UTC (link)
My understanding is that "turning Japanese" was a charming* reference to the squinting face made during orgasm.



*For a given definition of "charming".

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[info]issendai
2010-11-19 02:56 am UTC (link)
Waaaay back when, Billy Connolly did a bit about learning to masturbate in which he said something like, "It's brilliant! You turn totally Chinese!" and then demonstrated. So yeah... 90's-era corroboration that it was established slang.

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[info]rosehiptea
2010-11-17 04:14 pm UTC (link)
I wouldn't call it popular exactly, but I remember a song (in the '80s) called "Pocket Pool" which was about masturbation too. (I think maybe it was meant to be a double entendre but in the end they gave up on the double entendre part and just wrote about masturbation. It was actually not such a great song IMO.)

Years ago I tried to find the lyrics but googling "Pocket Pool" was of course a mistake.

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[info]moonjaguar
2010-11-17 11:41 pm UTC (link)
What's funny is the PMRC and other moral guardians were more publicly going off about supposedly satanic content in the backwards stuff at the very end of "Darling Nikki" rather than the screaming obvious NSFW lyrics.

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[info]seperis
2010-11-18 02:19 am UTC (link)
I was thinking of Cherry Pie; I was prepubescent in the eighties, but I did know my rockstar shenanigans, though granted, working out that particular song I was a bit late. And the entirety of Madonna and Michael Jackson and every hair band ever. That's a lot of hair bands.

The eighties weren't, what's the word...subtle. I'm pretty sure that word was banned from the entire decade.

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[info]pfflyernc
2010-11-18 04:14 am UTC (link)
Don't forget the Cars' "Dontcha Stop," about BJs. Good times.

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[info]thoms
2010-11-18 06:30 am UTC (link)
Just like above me thought of Cherry Pie by Warrant, what came to mind for me was half of the songs on any Danger Danger album. and of course, 2 Live Crew, who only got MORE popular after they were banned.

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[info]bubosquared
2010-11-18 11:14 am UTC (link)
* Although, to be fair, one of these three was also rumored to have been about anal sex.

Out of curiosity, which one is that?

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[info]puipui
2010-11-18 01:18 pm UTC (link)
"Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood. The rumor was that it was about anal sex, but I always thought it was about masturbation, and now I've looked up the lyrics, I've realized that it was just about orgasm, plain and simple, so I suppose it doesn't really matter how they got to that point as long as they got there, right? Whatever gets to you to Top of the Pops, so to speak.

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[info]athersgeo
2010-11-18 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Or doesn't - given that they got banned at one point ;)

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[info]athersgeo
2010-11-18 10:00 pm UTC (link)
Less about the actual mechanics of sex and more about IMMORTAL point-missing: Madness' song "House of Fun" - the only band I can think of who managed to immortalise the act of buying condoms...which seemed to escape the PC police but was only fractionally less blatant than the lyrics in "Relax"

Then there's their track about...well...have a look for yourself! - I still remember the expression on my friend's face when she first twigged about this one...

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2010-11-20 05:05 pm UTC (link)
And wasn't that when Tipper Gore decided to press for the explicit labels, due to the raunchiness of a lot of songs?

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