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Hexnut ([info]tunxeh) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-12-04 15:54:00


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#AAAFail
War between anthropology-as-science and anthropology-as-literary-theory continues, news at 11.

The short version: Anthropology has long been split between people who consider themselves scientists (they are using falsifiable hypotheses and empirical data to learn facts about how people behave) and people who feel that postmodern literary theory is a better way to approach the subject in a way that is conscious of one's own cultural biases. The scientists call the literary theorists "fluff-heads" while the literary theorists call the scientists as shallow as pro wrestlers. The American Anthropological Association (generally considered to be on the anthropology-as-literary-theory side of the fence, but still playing an important role in the rest of anthropology as the host of the annual academic-job-seeking process) recently amended their mission statement in the anti-science direction. Or rather, they wrote a new "long-range plan" that differs from their previous mission statement in the important sense that it can be approved by the executive committee without an actual vote of the membership.

As some Iain M. Banks fan writes: "I thought it was pretty telling that the AAA's move was not to make the statement more inclusive or add language clarifying that nonscientific inquiry was also valued. It was just to delete science."

There's a lot of self-important posturing and other forms of wanking on all sides, on the blogs and (of course) on twitter. This post has quite a few more good links.

Disclaimer: anthropology was my worst subject in college, and I haven't paid much attention to it since. I know which side of this debate I'd stand on, but I'm woefully underinformed.



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[info]melannen
2010-12-05 04:45 am UTC (link)
Okay, where are you, and do you have a graduate program?

Because I have been thinking seriously about going back to study folklore, if I could find a place with a Master's program that seemed like it would work for me, but there are so *few* of them...

(I would have done anthropology if I hadn't really disliked the anthro department at my school, so I ended up in geography instead, and don't really regret that, because it covered most of what I would've wanted out of anthro only organized differently. But folklore! o my love.)

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[info]sgaana
2010-12-05 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Alas, we do not have a graduate program; it's a weird quirk of our history as a program. (I'm at a Boston-area university.) What happens is that a number of graduate students in other departments often wind up essentially with specialties in folklore, but in their own depts. Our program itself is made up mostly of faculty with appointments in other depts -- like Anthro, Religion, English, German, Celtic, etc. -- whose own specialties are really folkloric in nature, so the courses they teach count for our program.

Indiana University and the Univ. of Missouri have two of the best Folklore graduate programs in the U.S. A number of other places have graduate programs that can specialize in folkloric studies, within other disciplines. This page is a good place to survey them:

http://www.loc.gov/folklife/source/list_highered.php

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[info]melannen
2010-12-06 05:15 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I've been through most of that list. Alas, except for Indiana and Missouri, they seem to be either really interdisciplinary programs, where I'd have to more-or less patch my own curriculum together out of different departments - which I'm fairly sure would not work for me at all, I need a firm path to follow (which may just mean I'm not ready for grad school at all, dunno) - or they focus tightly on an area I'm not interested in.

I've been looking at Indiana but I suspect I have zero chance of getting in. I'm also considering just going for history or maybe archeology with a concentration on folk traditions, because while folklore topics are what call to me, methodology-wise I'm much more interested in searching through archives and artifacts than having to talk to actual people in person, brrr.

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[info]cmikhailovic
2010-12-06 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Ohio State is actually a more stable program, and is inching into the top spot: I have friends among Indiana grad students, and they all sing the praises of OSU. Another thing: more money, so if you get in you'll be supported. The cool thing about OSU is that you can go through English (which I did) or Comparative Studies; both are good, it just depends on what you want to focus on.

/folklore MA from OSU, I'm biased.

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