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Hexnut ([info]tunxeh) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2010-12-04 15:54:00


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#AAAFail
War between anthropology-as-science and anthropology-as-literary-theory continues, news at 11.

The short version: Anthropology has long been split between people who consider themselves scientists (they are using falsifiable hypotheses and empirical data to learn facts about how people behave) and people who feel that postmodern literary theory is a better way to approach the subject in a way that is conscious of one's own cultural biases. The scientists call the literary theorists "fluff-heads" while the literary theorists call the scientists as shallow as pro wrestlers. The American Anthropological Association (generally considered to be on the anthropology-as-literary-theory side of the fence, but still playing an important role in the rest of anthropology as the host of the annual academic-job-seeking process) recently amended their mission statement in the anti-science direction. Or rather, they wrote a new "long-range plan" that differs from their previous mission statement in the important sense that it can be approved by the executive committee without an actual vote of the membership.

As some Iain M. Banks fan writes: "I thought it was pretty telling that the AAA's move was not to make the statement more inclusive or add language clarifying that nonscientific inquiry was also valued. It was just to delete science."

There's a lot of self-important posturing and other forms of wanking on all sides, on the blogs and (of course) on twitter. This post has quite a few more good links.

Disclaimer: anthropology was my worst subject in college, and I haven't paid much attention to it since. I know which side of this debate I'd stand on, but I'm woefully underinformed.



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[info]ladyvorkosigan
2010-12-05 08:04 pm UTC (link)
(So let me dust off my undergraduate degree in anthropology and spout undergrad-level opinions that are half a decade out of date for a while. Hey, as someone who didn't go onto grad school in the field, I pretty much have this and nitpicking museum exhibits.)

While simply deleting science seems like a pretty big mistake for all the reasons mentioned, one thing I really appreciate about the cultural anthropology classes I took in retrospect is that they didn't attempt to force every aspect of human culture into statistical models that were imposed on the subjects of study by the outside researchers. ::cough::sociologists::cough:: I mean, yes, I joke that I know nothing about statistics because anthropologists think statistics are a tool of the man, but the more I see how many other social science fields do it, the more I wonder if that's not kind of true.

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[info]major_fischer
2010-12-06 01:16 am UTC (link)
Told my sister (a socioligst) the bit about statistics being a tool of the man... and she tilted her head to the side and nodded. And than said in all seriousness. "But sometimes it's good to hang out with the man."

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[info]chaos_theory
2010-12-06 03:58 am UTC (link)
Statistics is essential to most subfields of anthropology at least at some level. Both graduate programs I've been in required you to take stats classes. Most anthropological work would be basically impossible without at least some statistical knowledge, just to ensure your sample size is valid. Even what we think of as "classic" ethnographic studies use some sort of implicit statistical model, because more anthropologists are not observing every member and every event that happens in that group, but are instead assuming that what they observed from a sample is true for the population as a whole.

The whole point of a lot of current anthropological thinking, at least in m opinion, is to understand that we are "the man", and trying to come up with ways to overcome that or limit its affects to provide more inclusive and complete interpretations.

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[info]white_serpent
2010-12-06 05:26 pm UTC (link)
I joke that I know nothing about statistics because anthropologists think statistics are a tool of the man, but the more I see how many other social science fields do it, the more I wonder if that's not kind of true.

From the point of view of a statistician... all of the social/behavioral sciences are fuzzy anyway. We aren't sure why they bother using statistics at all. I've yet to encounter someone in that field who seems to understand what they're doing in applying a statistical model, though they can describe in great and agonizing detail which model they want to apply.

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