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duraniedrama ([info]duraniedrama) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2011-01-15 09:58:00


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First One Digital Publishing--Sign Away All Your Rights and PAY Us For It!
So a new ebook publisher called First One Digital Publishing and they're holding a contest called Who Wants to be an Author? Sounds nifty, right? Then you have a look at the rules.

Okay, must be original, must be in English, Microsoft Word format, yadda, yadda, yadda . . .

7. FEES: There will be a $149.00 entrance fee for each submission. The fee must be paid online before the manuscript will be accepted.

Wait, WHAT?

One Grand-Prize Winner will receive:

• First One Publishing contract for terrestrial and digital publication of winning book.
• Five thousand ($5,000) cash
• A complete marketing and publicity tour tied to the winning book.
• First One Publishing Library (20 books valued at $240.00)
• Grand-Prize Winner must sign the publishing contract, which contains additional terms and conditions in order to be published.

Twenty Second-Prize Winners will receive:

• A First One Publishing contract for digital publication
• A complete marketing and publicity plan to promote the digital book as well as feature placement (bio, blog, etc.) on the First One Publishing website.
• A First One Publishing Collection (10 books valued at $120)
• Second-Prize Winners must sign the publishing contract, which contains additional terms and conditions in order to be published.


So, a $149 "entry fee" for a shot at a $5,000, um, award? Advance? Oh, and you get published! Yay! Right?

Then we get to the dreaded Paragraph 13:

All submissions become sole property of Sponsor and will not be acknowledged or returned. By submitting an entry, all entrants grant Sponsor the absolute and unconditional right and authority to copy, edit, publish, promote, broadcast, or otherwise use, in whole or in part, their entries, in perpetuity, in any manner without further permission, notice or compensation. Entries that contain copyrighted material must include a release from the copyright holder. Prizes are nontransferable. No substitutions or cash redemptions, except by Sponsor in the event of prize unavailability. Sponsor reserves the right to its sole discretion to not publish the winning entry for any reason whatsoever.
In the event that there is an insufficient number of entries received that meet the minimum standards determined by the judges, all prizes will not be awarded.


Pay $149, lose all your rights to your own work and maybe we'll publish you or something.

Laura Anne Gilman is not impressed.

Neither is Janet Reid.

Nor John Scalzi.

Okay, so a budding self publisher does something stupid and writers warn them about it. Where's the wank, exactly?

That would be where Karen Hunter herself shows up in the comments of Janet Reid's blog and also in the comments in this thread at the Absolute Write forums.

Could I, a 20-year veteran in publishing as a writer and publisher, afford to put out a contest that rips people off? I'm not desperate. The goal is to truly find the next great author, something not too many people are actually looking for. What's been your success track record?

Note she asks for the 'success track record' of Janet Reid.

On Absolute Write, she drops such gems as:

And regarding the term "major publisher," which seems to be a point of conversation, First One will be releasing 5-10 titles a month. I think that's pretty major. Don't you?

LOL...to most of the responses. Here's the deal: If you want to be a part of something bigger than what you're currently doing, join us. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the naysaying and the problem. It's very easy to sit on the sidelines and poke holes at everything. It is far more difficult to get out there and do something different. That's what we're doing.

Again, we're grateful for the feedback because it certainly forces us to do a better job, which we will. But it seems as if the comments and the criticisms are not edifying. If your goal is to be a boo-bird. Good job. If you're goal is to help change publishing, get in the game and let's play.


And play they do. Two pages so far and it may yet blossom into greater things if she comes back to bawwwww some more.

ETA: Smart Bitches, Trashy Books weighs in. (Thanks to [info]midnight_hawk for the tip.) The comments also link to a "contest" by Evil Reads, with additional suggested clauses in the comments. ([info]khym_chanur finds quite possibly the best one here.)

It's also hit sf_drama. (Thanks to [info]seiberwing.)

ETA Part Deax: aaaaaand, the rules now lead to a 404 page. (Per John Scalzi via [info]sistercoyote.)



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[info]snacky
2011-01-15 03:43 pm UTC (link)
If your goal is to be a boo-bird. Good job.

I have never heard the term "boo-bird" before, but it fills me with glee. Forget your "naysayers" and "negative Nellies" - "boo-bird" is the way to go!

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(no subject) - [info]cygnia, 2011-01-15 04:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-15 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2011-01-15 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perletwo, 2011-01-16 05:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2011-01-16 02:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cyan_aura, 2011-01-18 06:52 am UTC

[info]phosfate
2011-01-15 04:11 pm UTC (link)
"I sleep extremely well every night because I operate in truth" is the equivalent of having I AM A SCOUNDREL tattooed on your forehead.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-15 11:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyvyola, 2011-01-16 02:32 am UTC

[info]librarianmouse
2011-01-15 04:37 pm UTC (link)
Whatever is telling you that something is amiss, is lying to you. And we accept your apology because you are wrong as it relates to the contest.

Um, crazy lady? The thing that's telling us that something is amiss is called "Earth Logic." You may want to go find you some.

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(no subject) - [info]twinno, 2011-01-15 06:15 pm UTC

[info]kosaginolegion
2011-01-15 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I admit to sort of hoping she shows her face on Scalzi's blog. I'll need a huge batch of popcorn for that one.

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(no subject) - [info]duraniedrama, 2011-01-15 04:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2011-01-15 06:38 pm UTC

[info]braisinhussy
2011-01-15 04:54 pm UTC (link)
Bless her, she's a treasure. It's not germane to this wank, but her comments on atheism are just darling.

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Germane shermane - [info]dez_chan, 2011-01-15 07:54 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]braisinhussy, 2011-01-15 08:29 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-01-15 10:25 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]cygnia, 2011-01-16 12:56 am UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-01-16 01:00 am UTC
maybe not precisely atheist? - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-16 11:32 pm UTC
Re: maybe not precisely atheist? - [info]greymouse, 2011-01-17 12:42 pm UTC
Re: maybe not precisely atheist? - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-17 08:40 pm UTC
OT - [info]ianthefira, 2011-01-16 01:40 am UTC
Re: OT - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-01-16 01:44 am UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:43 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]dez_chan, 2011-01-16 05:23 am UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]tofuknight, 2011-01-17 08:12 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]feenix, 2011-01-17 10:39 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]tofuknight, 2011-01-18 12:45 pm UTC
Re: Germane shermane - [info]queencallipygos, 2011-01-18 09:26 pm UTC

[info]pantyless_angel
2011-01-15 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Apparently they recently added this little gem:
CAUTION: ANY ATTEMPT TO DELIBERATELY DAMAGE ANY WEBSITE OR UNDERMINE THE LEGITIMATE OPERATION OF THE CONTEST IS A VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL AD CIVIL LAWS AND SHOULD SUCH AN ATTEMPT BE MADE. THE SPONSOR RESERVES THE RIGHT TO SEEK DAMAGES OR OTHER REMEDIES FROM ANY SUCH PERSON(S) RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ATTEMPT TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW.

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(no subject) - [info]anthologia, 2011-01-15 06:22 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2011-01-15 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-01-16 08:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-16 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eilisliana, 2011-01-17 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2011-01-15 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greymouse, 2011-01-17 11:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-15 08:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2011-01-15 08:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2011-01-15 11:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-15 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]nightwithmoon, 2011-01-16 05:38 pm UTC

[info]varethane
2011-01-15 06:42 pm UTC (link)
From the Absolute Write thread:

Just as American Idol has given us Kelly Clarkson, Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson, Clay Aiken, and so many, many more, First One will deliver the next Stephen King, Nicholas Sparks, and Stephenie Meyer.

....The fact that they're holding up Meyer as an example of a Great Writer is telling, I think.

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(no subject) - [info]ruffwriter, 2011-01-15 06:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ruffwriter, 2011-01-15 09:08 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]eleutheria, 2011-01-15 11:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2011-01-16 01:42 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]tehrin, 2011-01-15 07:40 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2011-01-15 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-16 11:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greymouse, 2011-01-17 11:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-17 03:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kumquat_of_doom, 2011-01-19 03:36 pm UTC

[info]ruffwriter
2011-01-15 06:57 pm UTC (link)
Oooh boy. Ms. Hunter must not be too familiar with the world of publishing if she's trying to fuck with the Shark.

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[info]silrana
2011-01-15 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Publishing wank. Always fun.

*gets popcorn*

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[info]cleolinda
2011-01-15 08:06 pm UTC (link)
It is far more difficult to get out there and do something different. That's what we're doing.

I don't know, running a massive scam isn't terribly difficult, but the brazenness of this one is a bit different.

Section 12 (It Is Illegal to Be Mean on the Internets) is darling, though.

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[info]khym_chanur
2011-01-15 08:13 pm UTC (link)
LOL...to most of the responses. Here's the deal: If you want to be a part of something bigger than what you're currently doing, join us. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the naysaying and the problem. [here]
Paying $150 to enter a contest is being part of the solution, you guys!!

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(no subject) - [info]wankismyfandom, 2011-01-15 11:31 pm UTC

[info]tehrin
2011-01-15 08:16 pm UTC (link)
The anonymous nature of the web is cool but it also makes cowards of people. You sit behind your computer throwing poisonous darts. I'm here. I sign my name. I'm transparent and I'm responding with an eye on correcting the problems. Are you? Or are you an internet coward, hiding behind fake names and fake screen images, spewing negativity at will because there is no way for anyone to check you directly. That doesn't make you clever, or smart or perfect. That makes you a coward. If you have no intention of participating in this contest, then what's your goal? To protect people? From what exactly? Again, I'm out here transparent. How many publishers can you put a name to who would even take the time to address you? Think about that? Also, how possible is it that someone who has built a successful career would toss it all away on a contest designed to rip people off? Really? You all seem so much smarter than to think that.

Her defensiveness reads like Sarah Palin.

This wank is a "How Not to Represent Yourself as a Publisher" guide.

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(no subject) - [info]thepiratequeen, 2011-01-15 09:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2011-01-16 09:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2011-01-16 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:43 pm UTC

[info]commathulhu
2011-01-15 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Oh man, this is ten kinds of special and completely worth my having icecream for breakfast while reading it.

I am astonished at Ms Hunter's appearance to try and convince the internets that this is completely legit. I love the part about how it's so unfair to point out the rules (y'know, by reading them) before the contest is launched. The nerve of some people, reading things and informing themselves in order to make an opinion. Sheesh.

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[info]singe
2011-01-15 08:59 pm UTC (link)
If you're goal is to help change publishing, get in the game and let's play.

It's 'YOUR.' Way to inspire confidence, O Great Publishing One.

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(no subject) - [info]gunshou, 2011-01-16 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2011-01-16 02:31 pm UTC

[info]ashenmote
2011-01-15 09:31 pm UTC (link)
• Second-Prize Winners must sign the publishing contract, which contains additional terms and conditions in order to be published.

Additional terms and conditions such as the filing of a last will and testament in favor of First One Publishing, I presume?

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[info]sisterelwood
2011-01-15 09:33 pm UTC (link)
I'm not even sure that contract is enforceable. Just - wow. I think a more contract-savvy lawyer than I could have a field day with this.

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(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2011-01-15 09:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sisterelwood, 2011-01-15 09:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]undomielregina, 2011-01-16 04:26 am UTC

[info]littleshebear
2011-01-15 09:34 pm UTC (link)
She isn't friends with Fred Durst by any chance, is she? They have remarkably similar MO's.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-15 11:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2011-01-16 12:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cygnia, 2011-01-16 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2011-01-16 05:46 pm UTC

[info]mooncalf
2011-01-15 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Wait. Wait. Wait. The first publisher to 'feature product placement within books'? What?

Does she mean that she'll take money to make her writers add in scenes featuring their characters loudly enjoying their delicious Coke © products? I guess so!

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(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-01-15 10:27 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-15 10:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2011-01-15 10:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-15 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-16 01:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-16 01:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littleshebear, 2011-01-16 12:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-01-16 12:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]perletwo, 2011-01-16 05:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-15 11:53 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2011-01-16 07:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2011-01-16 02:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]feenix, 2011-01-17 12:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sablemouse, 2011-01-17 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaseroque, 2011-01-16 10:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]singe, 2011-01-16 02:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2011-01-16 09:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2011-01-16 08:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greymouse, 2011-01-17 12:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]floriatosca, 2011-01-25 09:19 pm UTC

[info]midnight_hawk
2011-01-15 10:35 pm UTC (link)
It's just hit SBTB!

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(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2011-01-15 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyvyola, 2011-01-16 02:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darksumomo, 2011-01-15 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]black_spot, 2011-01-16 01:00 pm UTC

[info]sorchar
2011-01-15 11:51 pm UTC (link)
The goal is to truly find the next great author, something not too many people are actually looking for.

Well, yeah, I guess in areas that are devastated by war or disaster, or places where people are struggling just to live at a subsistence level, there aren't many people concerned with looking for the next great author. But as far as editors and publishers, isn't that sort of why they're in business to begin with?

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(no subject) - [info]ghostmaster, 2011-01-16 09:49 pm UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2011-01-15 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Evil Reads has a mock "contest" modeled on the wank subject, and invites commenters to add their own evil contract clauses. My favorite:
Any attempts to mock the contest in words, pictures, interpretive dance, mime, puppetry, thoughts, or dreams will make the contest angry. The contest will come to your house while you are sleeping. The first time the contest visits, you will not know the contest has been there. You will just find that your belongings have been moved, and you will feel ill at ease. The contest will come again each night. It will stand over you while you sleep. It will bottle your breath in jars. It will take skin samples and store them for future use. The contest will call you sometimes, then hang up when you answer. The contest will send you emails with no content. The contest go to your child's school and hang around out front in a fake ice cream truck, taking photos. The contest reserves all rights to haunt you when it dies.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-16 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2011-01-16 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2011-01-16 02:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wrenlet, 2011-01-16 02:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]goddessleila, 2011-01-16 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2011-01-16 07:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-16 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2011-01-16 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deliciouschaos, 2011-01-16 08:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-01-16 11:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2011-01-17 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-01-17 08:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]queencallipygos, 2011-01-24 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]duraniedrama, 2011-01-24 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]atropos_lee, 2011-01-26 10:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2011-01-26 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:44 pm UTC

[info]fools_game
2011-01-16 12:23 am UTC (link)
The original contest was bad enough, but the snotty replies on the Absolute Write boards and to Janet Reid? This is going to be beautiful. I give it forty-eight hours until a flounce.

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[info]thebratqueen
2011-01-16 12:51 am UTC (link)
Let us launch the contest (Feb. 11). Join it. And if you have a problem, then you have a right to criticize.

I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to criticize without paying her $150 first. In fact, one of my favorite hobbies demands it.

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(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2011-01-16 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2011-01-16 01:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2011-01-18 12:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistercoyote, 2011-01-18 05:44 pm UTC

[info]melyanna
2011-01-16 04:06 am UTC (link)
According to a commenter at SBTB, it looks like this person copied and pasted rules from a contest in 2005. Either that or this is not Karen Hunter's first rodeo.

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[info]jaythenerdkid
2011-01-16 08:11 am UTC (link)
All this wank needs to be perfect is for Nora Roberts and Lee Goldberg to weigh in.

Preferably on different sides.

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(no subject) - [info]northen_light36, 2011-01-16 08:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jasonvermilion, 2012-01-29 03:39 pm UTC


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