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Wicked One ([info]visp) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2011-10-12 17:10:00


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Entry tags:defensiveness ahoy, food, it's not easy wanking green, let them eat cake, otf_wank's thoughts on weight

The Serious Side of Salad
Once upon a time, someone in facebook posted a "Why Geeks Make Better Boyfriends" list. Britney St. Patience felt the need to point out its inaccuracies. She prefaces it with "Sure there are geek guys out there who are great partners. But being a geek does not guarantee that a guy will be a great boyfriend."

It's a pretty standard 'Nice Guy' deconstruction.

The main highlights are:

Myth #3: Geeks are low maintenance
Supposedly geek guys make great boyfriends because they can subsist on pizza, Mt Dew, and your affection. Just wait until you meet one who will ONLY eat pizza and maybe 3-4 other foods, like some sort of overgrown five year old. It took me nearly a decade to get my computer programmer ex husband to eat salad. My Star Wars obsessed ex boyfriend could not be taken to nice restaurants because he refused to wear anything except ripped jeans and nerdy tees and would not eat anything he could not pronounce. LOW MAINTENANCE MY ASS.


and

Myth #6: Geeks appreciate women
This one is, by far, my favorite geek guy myth. The myth of the guy who spent all of high school playing D&D but secretly wanting someone to love and when he finally gets a girl he imprints on her and covers her in puppy-like devotion. OMG WHERE DO PEOPLE GET THIS SHIT? You know what really happens when guys don't get laid in high school or college and spend all their time reading coming books and filling their spank banks with Buffy the Vampire Slayer fanfic? They fill their little nerd brains with unrealistic expectations, waiting around for what one of my gamer friends calls a "magical pixie girl". An unattainably hot woman, who will love the nerd boy not in spite of his nerdiness but because of it and somehow his life will be transformed by her love. And he shall get a job. And he shall move out of his parents basement. And he shall cease to be whatever it is he dislikes about himself because the magical lady doth love him. But woe to any girl who does not live up to his fantasy. She will be treated with the same regard as yesterday's Mt Dew cans.


So, a little harsh, but all in all not a matter for anger, right? Wrong!


It gets posted to Metaquotes, and it starts to get weird.

First, the appetizer of rebuttals that only confirm the post.


The myth of the guy who spent all of high school playing D&D but secretly wanting someone to love and when he finally gets a girl he imprints on her and covers her in puppy-like devotion. OMG WHERE DO PEOPLE GET THIS SHIT?"


They get it from reality. That described me perfectly. It happened. It still happens. She completely ripped out my heart and shit in the hole eventually, and I got over this pattern... but it happens. That's where people get the idea.

The OP is demanding, high maintenance, dissatisfied with all the men out there... and yet continues to put herself into relationships with people SHE DOESN'T LIKE in some misguided attempt to make them into something she does like.

Of course it doesn't work, millions of people can tell you that (and probably did), and now she's bitter as a result of her mistakes, and is shifting the blame onto a large and diverse demographic that, in the aggregate, does NOT actually fit all the stereotypes she is perpetuating about them.


But then Candidgamera shows up and he Does. Not. Like. Salad.

If the girl I was dating was bizarrely fixated on me eating a salad, it wouldn't take me ten years to dump her sorry ass.

Making your husband eat a salad makes you a controlling harpy.

What follows is an extended debate over whether asking your spouse to eat salad is controlling, an act of deepest love for your dearest one, or something in between. Over salad.



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[info]meagenimage
2011-10-13 01:29 am UTC (link)
My husband recognises two basic food groups: cheese, and things on which to put cheese. He has Type 1 diabetes (the genetic kind). I have no idea how he is still alive.

On the other hand, we're a geek marriage that has worked pretty well - possibly because we both don't like mind-game bullshit and have some shade of autism, so we tend to talk things over in a reasonable way and try to find solutions instead of waiting for the other person to guess what's wrong.

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[info]sandglass
2011-10-13 01:55 am UTC (link)
have some shade of autism, so we tend to talk things over in a reasonable way and try to find solutions instead of waiting for the other person to guess what's wrong

This is the best side effect of people dealing with their autism. "I can't figure out what you're thinking, so lets just talk."

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[info]brennalarose
2011-10-13 02:29 am UTC (link)
This. Or as I say, "Don't make excuses, learn."

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[info]visp
2011-10-13 03:14 am UTC (link)
I agree.

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-10-13 01:57 am UTC (link)
try to find solutions instead of waiting for the other person to guess what's wrong

I think this is something everyone should do. *is biased*

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-13 02:31 am UTC (link)
Me too. I don't think I have any shade of autism, but I've dated guys who expected me to guess what was wrong and it made me want to climb the walls.

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-10-13 02:40 am UTC (link)
I still remember a friend in high school complaining that she was upset and her boyfriend wouldn't ask her what was wrong. I asked what she had told him and she said "I didn't say anything. He should be able to tell."

I didn't know what to say that.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-13 02:41 am UTC (link)
*facepalm* Well, it was high school. Hopefully she outgrew it.

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[info]ahiru
2011-10-14 12:33 am UTC (link)
I had a co-worker once who had a similar issue, that she was mad at her husband and was upset that he didn't know why. She kept calling him on her cell at work and saying stuff like, "Well, what do you THINK is wrong with me?". The thing she was upset about? She had a dream where he cheated on her. And apparently he was not as apologetic about his dream-infidelity as she wanted him to be.

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[info]eleutheria
2011-10-14 01:12 am UTC (link)
/facepalm

I get those dreams all the time. And other dreams where my husband is a terrible partner in different ways. It's upsetting, but we've mostly made a joke of it. "I had a terrible dream!" "Oh, that sucks. Was I a bastard again?"

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-14 03:46 am UTC (link)
Oh. My. God.

What did she do when she had dreams she was sexing someone else? As far as I know, most people have those all the time. (My subconscious is obsessed with Alex Skarsgard lately, and I've never even seen him act.) I'm guessing she didn't think she was an evil cheater.

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[info]amaresu
2011-10-13 09:11 am UTC (link)
This was one of the main reasons I broke up with an ex-girlfriend. She would never come out and tell me why she was angry. I was left in this state of confusion that made me not want to be around her and it spiralled from there.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2011-10-18 11:06 pm UTC (link)
IDK, sometimes I get upset with people over things that I then can't articulate my anger over without getting more angry and frustrated because, as far as I'm concerned, they should know better, and thus know exactly what I;m upset about. I end up sort of generally flailing about before I can have an adult conversation about it because I'm still in "holy fuck, I can't believe you actually did/said that" mode, and then of course it comes across as me being irrational or overreacting.

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[info]visp
2011-10-19 12:09 am UTC (link)
Well, that's true. There are some things that fall in the category of "In what bizzarro universe is that okay?" Also, lets not forget the people who forget that you've told them not to do something 500 times and on the 501st time are like "what? What did I do? What?"

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2011-10-13 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Type 2 diabetes is also genetic.

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