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Wicked One ([info]visp) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2011-10-12 17:10:00


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Entry tags:defensiveness ahoy, food, it's not easy wanking green, let them eat cake, otf_wank's thoughts on weight

The Serious Side of Salad
Once upon a time, someone in facebook posted a "Why Geeks Make Better Boyfriends" list. Britney St. Patience felt the need to point out its inaccuracies. She prefaces it with "Sure there are geek guys out there who are great partners. But being a geek does not guarantee that a guy will be a great boyfriend."

It's a pretty standard 'Nice Guy' deconstruction.

The main highlights are:

Myth #3: Geeks are low maintenance
Supposedly geek guys make great boyfriends because they can subsist on pizza, Mt Dew, and your affection. Just wait until you meet one who will ONLY eat pizza and maybe 3-4 other foods, like some sort of overgrown five year old. It took me nearly a decade to get my computer programmer ex husband to eat salad. My Star Wars obsessed ex boyfriend could not be taken to nice restaurants because he refused to wear anything except ripped jeans and nerdy tees and would not eat anything he could not pronounce. LOW MAINTENANCE MY ASS.


and

Myth #6: Geeks appreciate women
This one is, by far, my favorite geek guy myth. The myth of the guy who spent all of high school playing D&D but secretly wanting someone to love and when he finally gets a girl he imprints on her and covers her in puppy-like devotion. OMG WHERE DO PEOPLE GET THIS SHIT? You know what really happens when guys don't get laid in high school or college and spend all their time reading coming books and filling their spank banks with Buffy the Vampire Slayer fanfic? They fill their little nerd brains with unrealistic expectations, waiting around for what one of my gamer friends calls a "magical pixie girl". An unattainably hot woman, who will love the nerd boy not in spite of his nerdiness but because of it and somehow his life will be transformed by her love. And he shall get a job. And he shall move out of his parents basement. And he shall cease to be whatever it is he dislikes about himself because the magical lady doth love him. But woe to any girl who does not live up to his fantasy. She will be treated with the same regard as yesterday's Mt Dew cans.


So, a little harsh, but all in all not a matter for anger, right? Wrong!


It gets posted to Metaquotes, and it starts to get weird.

First, the appetizer of rebuttals that only confirm the post.


The myth of the guy who spent all of high school playing D&D but secretly wanting someone to love and when he finally gets a girl he imprints on her and covers her in puppy-like devotion. OMG WHERE DO PEOPLE GET THIS SHIT?"


They get it from reality. That described me perfectly. It happened. It still happens. She completely ripped out my heart and shit in the hole eventually, and I got over this pattern... but it happens. That's where people get the idea.

The OP is demanding, high maintenance, dissatisfied with all the men out there... and yet continues to put herself into relationships with people SHE DOESN'T LIKE in some misguided attempt to make them into something she does like.

Of course it doesn't work, millions of people can tell you that (and probably did), and now she's bitter as a result of her mistakes, and is shifting the blame onto a large and diverse demographic that, in the aggregate, does NOT actually fit all the stereotypes she is perpetuating about them.


But then Candidgamera shows up and he Does. Not. Like. Salad.

If the girl I was dating was bizarrely fixated on me eating a salad, it wouldn't take me ten years to dump her sorry ass.

Making your husband eat a salad makes you a controlling harpy.

What follows is an extended debate over whether asking your spouse to eat salad is controlling, an act of deepest love for your dearest one, or something in between. Over salad.



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[info]keleri
2011-10-13 02:22 am UTC (link)
And my dear, sweet mother,
she just looked at me
like a cow looks at an oncoming train
and she said
"IT'S GOOOOOOOOOD FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUU"
AND THEN SHE TIED ME TO THE WALL
AND STUCK A FUNNEL IN MY MOUTH
AND FORCE-FED ME NOTHING BUT SAUERKRAUT
UNTIL I WAS 26 AND A HALF YEARS OLD


...is what I assume happened to some of these people. Guys! Guys! (whispers) It's just a salad! Seriously, what kind of severe food-related traumas did these people experience?

Actually, the whole defense of five-thing-eaters makes me a little sad. I have two geek friends who will not eat anything other than pizza, burgers, fast food, soda, and ice cream. They're pre-diabetic but refuse to exercise because the WiiFit hurt their feelings by telling them they're obese, and don't you know the BMI is a big crock anyway, etc. etc. But I guess you have to respect their bodily autonomy and personal choice to eat to death. :/

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[info]virgo
2011-10-13 02:45 am UTC (link)
Eh, I dunno. I don't eat vegetables and only some fruits so my food choices are a bit limited, but it's not like I'm suffering from it.

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[info]ghostmaster
2011-10-13 05:29 pm UTC (link)
There's a huge difference between limited food choices and eats only junk, though. My boyfriend has certain things he refuses to eat, too, but he eats junk food less than I do.

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[info]virgo
2011-10-13 05:38 pm UTC (link)
Well, yeah, but if that's what they want to eat then it's their business.

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[info]sandglass
2011-10-13 02:53 am UTC (link)
I was expecting fail from this, but not so quick or in this form.

OP might want to warn for anorexia type triggers, in the wank and in these comments, come to think of it.

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[info]keleri
2011-10-13 03:00 am UTC (link)
Ack! Please allow me to apologize. :( Could you tell me about my failure a little more specifically? I will try not to be that person in the future.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-13 03:04 am UTC (link)
I'll just leave this link here: http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/eat-food-stuff-you-like-as-much-as-you-want/

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(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2011-10-13 03:09 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 03:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 03:35 am UTC
ridiculously missing the point! XD - [info]pantyless_angel, 2011-10-18 08:46 pm UTC
Re: ridiculously missing the point! XD - [info]bacon_lover, 2011-10-20 06:24 am UTC

[info]rosehiptea
2011-10-13 03:17 am UTC (link)
Since you asked, speaking for myself, the "Wiifit hurt their feelings" thing? That bothered me. Unless they actually said that. If they don't want to use a Wiifit it's their business.

Also actually you do have to respect their bodily autonomy. That's not in and of itself a bad thing.

Also speaking for myself, I don't think it's evil and wrong to be concerned for your friends and their health choices. But the way you phrased it, yeah, not working with me.

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(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2011-10-13 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2011-10-13 07:24 pm UTC
Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness...
[info]sandglass
2011-10-13 03:18 am UTC (link)
Well, for starters, there's no such thing as "Eating to death." Making someone's eating habits an almost suicidal thing is just...I'm sorry, but it's really awful. People eat poorly all the time, but that doesn't necessarily lead to death, and when it does it's only one contributing factor. It's certainly not that they're intentionally disregarding their immediate health, or are doing something that is guaranteed to make them sick. Eating poorly is just something people tend to do throughout their lives, and won't necessarily cause anything. Diabetes, heart disease, and the other ailments connected with fatness are highly genetic (as is fatness), for example. Lots of people who eat healthy are pre-diabetic, and worse they/their doctors don't pay as much attention because people assume it doesn't really happen to skinny people or people who eat well.

BMI is actually a crock of shit, and calling someone obese is hurtful to a lot of people. I'm pretty good about body acceptance and I don't think I could deal well with the WiiFit going, "Hey, remember you're fat?" every time I use it. It's a painful reminder that you suck, and associating that with exercise is no way to get healthy.

Finally, even if you don't agree with me on the healthiness of being fat or eating poorly, your comment just came off as so judgmental. And maybe you're that judgmental towards people who smoke, or drink, or do drugs, (or hell, chronically dieting, since that's also related with all the unhealthy stuff that supposedly comes from being fat) which are all about as unhealthy as being fat and eating poorly without being related to something you have to do to keep alive.

I direct you to the Shapely Prose archives for further information on fatphobia and fat shaming.

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Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 03:22 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 03:30 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 03:40 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]meagenimage, 2011-10-13 03:38 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 03:41 am UTC
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Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 04:05 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-13 04:13 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 04:16 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-13 07:49 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 04:16 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-13 07:43 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]meagenimage, 2011-10-13 12:49 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 05:13 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]herongale, 2011-10-13 09:57 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 11:58 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-14 02:25 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]herongale, 2011-10-14 03:14 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]flowerstar, 2011-10-17 05:07 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-17 07:04 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-17 07:04 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]beccastareyes, 2011-10-13 02:26 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]franzen, 2011-10-13 04:32 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 05:32 pm UTC
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Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]beccastareyes, 2011-10-13 05:22 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 05:31 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]lil_miss_stfu, 2011-10-14 01:37 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]rosehiptea, 2011-10-13 06:15 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 06:26 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]tofuknight, 2011-10-13 06:54 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]rosehiptea, 2011-10-13 07:27 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]zara_zero, 2011-10-13 10:43 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]moonjaguar, 2011-10-14 06:52 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]frequentmouse, 2011-10-19 01:55 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]anthologia, 2011-10-13 07:26 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]risha, 2011-10-13 11:41 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-14 12:01 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]anthologia, 2011-10-13 07:39 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]franzen, 2011-10-13 09:07 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]anthologia, 2011-10-13 11:33 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]maev_connacht, 2011-10-17 08:28 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]anthologia, 2011-10-17 10:36 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]rosehiptea, 2011-10-13 05:55 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-13 03:55 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 04:24 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-13 04:50 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-13 04:52 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]ekaterinv, 2011-10-13 05:12 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-14 12:14 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]franzen, 2011-10-13 02:08 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-14 12:19 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 05:08 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-14 12:23 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]frequentmouse, 2011-10-19 02:04 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-19 02:10 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]frequentmouse, 2011-10-19 04:05 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2011-10-19 05:22 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]visp, 2011-10-19 06:57 am UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]keleri, 2011-10-13 07:14 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 11:59 pm UTC
Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]argylespy, 2011-10-17 06:35 pm UTC

[info]phosfate
2011-10-13 04:13 am UTC (link)
Short version: bodily autonomy -- not just for people you approve of.

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[info]visp
2011-10-13 03:08 am UTC (link)
Can do.

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[info]sandglass
2011-10-13 03:25 am UTC (link)
Thanks kindly, I know some people can get really upset by diet/calorie/whatnot talk.

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[info]melannen
2011-10-13 03:06 am UTC (link)
I had a geek friend who wouldn't eat anything other than burgers (no cheese) and fries and Coke. (And pancakes or waffles for breakfast.) Then he got married, and because he was actually an adult at that point, he willingly agreed to at least try anything his wife cooked for him.

...it took them six months to figure out he was lactose intolerant. And intolerant to rice, of all things. And soy. And about half-a-dozen other common ingredients in grown-up meals.

After that I decided not to judge anyone who chooses a seriously restricted diet, even if they've never actually gotten diagnosed, because they may have learned from bitter experience that trying new things means misery. (But you know what? The result of that with my friend wasn't going back to nothing but burgers - it was the two of them working together to figure out what he could eat and find interesting recipes that worked...)

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[info]iamnotyourmuse
2011-10-13 03:30 am UTC (link)
I really really really want a Food Network (or the like) show about cooking for "picky" eaters or anyone who wants to or has to cut out common things. I hate tomatoes and onions, for example. It's a gigantic pain in the ass to figure out how to redo some recipes without those. And that's just a preference, not a required restriction.

/off topic

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[info]phosfate
2011-10-13 04:10 am UTC (link)
There's stuff I can't eat because the taste is like getting hit in the face with a softball bat (see: vinegar, miso, kale, or any salad dressing ever), or because it triggers instant barfing (I AM LOOKING AT YOU, BEETS, YOU FILTHY LITTLE COCKBITES). Fortunately for me, nothing in this world requires any of them. But I swear, if they made Futurama-type Bachelor Chow, I would be totally down with that stuff.

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Re: Sorry for getting all unfunnybusiness... - [info]sandglass, 2011-10-13 04:18 am UTC
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[info]wankismyfandom
2011-10-13 05:23 am UTC (link)
THANK THE GODS I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HATES ONIONS

(but I will gladly take those tomatoes off your hands)

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[info]rhrsoulmates
2011-10-16 05:35 am UTC (link)
After that I decided not to judge anyone who chooses a seriously restricted diet, even if they've never actually gotten diagnosed, because they may have learned from bitter experience that trying new things means misery.

I want to thank you for *getting it* re: your friend's food intolerance. I have an intolerance to an extreme number of foods. I used to eat them anyway, not making the connection that I wouldn't experience extreme gastrointestinal reactions if I simply STOPPED eating those foods. (I know that sounds like a duh statement but I don't know, I thought it was something I had to live with.)

Now, I've cut almost everything out, which really sucks for me because I was a "picky" eater to begin with but if I don't want to be sick for hours or days, it's what I must do. My friends know my "deal" but when dating, this becomes very stressful but it's pretty difficult to avoid the going-out-to-eat thing.

Anyway, it was just nice reading someone who is understanding of this situation.

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[info]wankismyfandom
2011-10-13 05:52 am UTC (link)
the WiiFit hurt their feelings by telling them they're obese

I was bullied throughout school and it was worst in gym class. The first time I used a WiiFit, it reminded me so much of that experience that I cried for half an hour afterwards.

I tried to use the thing a couple more times because some of the games were kind of fun, but not nearly fun enough to make me run that gauntlet of triggers every single time.

I certainly hope you weren't this dismissive in front of your friends.

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[info]rosehiptea
2011-10-13 07:20 am UTC (link)
I really didn't realize it was so extensive and harsh. I'm sorry to hear that.

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[info]eilisliana
2011-10-13 09:56 am UTC (link)
When I used the WiiFit on a regular basis, I took to passing on the weigh-in because I was sick of Boardy (Clippy's cousin) giving me crap for gaining 2 pounds.

That damn character was annoying, plus the "why did you gain weight?" part with no options like "daily fluctuation", "extra water weight" just "I ate too much" and similar shaming options. :/

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[info]sneer
2011-10-13 04:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, hi. Size 6 here, 10K runner, and according to BMI I'm about three pounds away from "obese."

Since you seem to be genuinely aware and sorry that your comment is an epic pool of fail, I'll just leave it at that and a suggestion that in the future you might want to try THINKING before you post ignorant shit like that.

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[info]keleri
2011-10-13 07:10 pm UTC (link)
I am so, so sorry for my truly shitty comment; I'm hoping this incident will give me some context by which I can, as you said, think before posting, and avoid lodging my foot in my skull and hurting a bunch of people. Again, I offer my sincerest apologies.

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[info]keleri
2011-10-13 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Hey everyone, I wanted to offer a general apology to everyone who reads my first comment, especially anyone who is triggered by it. I feel so bad that I hurt y'all in this way and I'm trying to educate myself to fail less in the future and to be less of a giant asshole. I come from a really shitty upbringing as far as fatphobia goes and am only just realizing how what I thought was liberal and accepting is actually super patronizing at best and spectacular gluteal haberdashery at worst. I will consider this my wake-up call to be less of a shitty person.

But that's my explanation, not my excuse-- I am so so sorry I hurt y'all and wanked up this post, and I will be taking your undeservedly patient explanations to heart.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-10-14 02:28 am UTC (link)
You've been really good about this. Don't feel too awful, everyone does something like this at some point, and trying to do better in the future is all anyone can realistically do.

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[info]sorchar
2011-10-14 02:27 am UTC (link)
This is not to dogpile you, just as an aside since you were open to other POV: The WiiFit LIES. It told me I'm obese, which I am, and then it told my pre-teen (at the time) son he was as well, and he most certainly was not. The WiiFit is fun, but it definitely is not a good judge of body size.

(And BMI really is a crock, but I'm sure you've read that somewhere from the other links people provided.)

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