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Lurker #32 ([info]lurker32) wrote in [info]otf_wank,
@ 2004-03-26 13:58:00
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Current mood:energetic

Oh for...
[info]asperger on LJ, for people with Asperger's Syndrome. It's a mild form of autism and, unfortunately, also the kEwLiEz disorder du jour.

Also unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your point of view, many true Aspies tend to get sucked into drama easily. Observe:

[info]elenbarathi, resident Autism Crusader OMG!: Hey, check out this music, it's totally awesome.
[info]shrike: Uh, not really.
[info]eris_devotee, resident NT (= neurotypical = non-Aspie): Yeah, but the artist is a furry, what can you expect?

You can guess the rest.

Edit: [info]iroshi pours oil on the flames waters, but elenbarathi is already busy in the next thread, invoking Godwin's Law! Whee.


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[info]smo
2004-03-26 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Then again, perhaps that sort of thing is only to be expected from you... being what you are.

Do we get a prize if we guess what that is?

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[info]lurker32
2004-03-26 08:05 pm UTC (link)
I gather it's "an icky Normal Person who doesn't understand that we Aspies are actually THE EMERGENT MASTER RACE".

elenbarathi kind of has a hobbyhorse...

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-03-26 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-26 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-03-26 08:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2004-03-27 07:51 am UTC

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[info]lurker32
2004-03-26 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Sounds about right.

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[info]phosfate
2004-03-26 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Those lame fuckers wish Asperger's was as cool as scurvy.

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[info]lurker32
2004-03-26 09:13 pm UTC (link)
*chokes*

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[info]smo
2004-03-26 09:35 pm UTC (link)
Avast, ye scurvy dogs!

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-03-27 12:12 am UTC
Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]smo, 2004-03-27 12:25 am UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]singe, 2004-03-27 02:00 am UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-27 02:00 pm UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]tinfoil_portia, 2004-03-27 09:27 pm UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-27 10:33 pm UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]smo, 2004-03-28 10:46 am UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]singe, 2004-03-29 01:53 pm UTC
Re: Gratuitous Icon Love Post - [info]smo, 2004-03-29 03:27 pm UTC

[info]apoplexia
2004-03-28 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Damn kids! In my day you weren't shit if you didn't have consumption!

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[info]erik
2004-03-26 09:30 pm UTC (link)
*points up* Agree with brigid. We're not all wankers, promise.

Let me guess, elenbarathi has made whiney posts in the Asperger community about how NTs take her blunt comments as personal attacks and get offended. *takes her aside for a talk* You're acting like one of them, dear... now go clean the splooge off your pants and rock back and forth in the corner until you're back in touch with your autistic side.

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[info]lurker32
2004-03-26 09:59 pm UTC (link)
We're not all wankers, promise.

*grins* Oh, I know. But the ones that are, boy...

If you want real entertainment, search the archives for posts by [info]nakedmen, who DOESN'T HAVE ASPERGER'S DAMMIT YOU LOSERS! o__O

[info]iroshi seems to have smoothed this one over though.

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(no subject) - [info]musette, 2004-03-27 09:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-27 02:01 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-28 02:31 am UTC
Re: - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-28 03:01 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-28 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 06:16 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-28 02:36 am UTC

[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-26 10:39 pm UTC (link)
From the second wank thread:

Just try to imagine the nerds of your school, the ones nobody liked except each other. These were likely the people you and your buddies used to throw things at because you got a kick out of it.

Whoa, reversal of a law! That's a new one on me. Personally, if I remember high school correctly, my friends and I were too busy "making goat sacrifices in the girl's bathroom at lunch hour" and having "mad lesbian orgies" afterward (which I never remembered afterward, damnit. Who was slipping me the date rape drug?) to throw things at anyone. But, y'know, that could just be me.

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[info]beccastareyes
2004-03-26 10:51 pm UTC (link)
You know, I didn't know people with AS had their own LJ community.

Judging from the looks of it, I'm not going to be joining any time soon. My pet peeve (well, one of them) is people who use their AS as an excuse for everything and anything, including not being willing to learn how to deal with people.

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[info]lurker32
2004-03-26 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it's not usually that bad, but there's a noticeable contingent of nutbars and whiners, all the same.

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[info]erik
2004-03-26 11:23 pm UTC (link)
My friend's son is autistic, and apparently they get in the short lines at amusement parks because he gets really upset and starts stimming like crazy if he has to wait in line with a bunch of people around him for half an hour. I have got to try that someday. Underhanded manipulation and using AS for personal gain isn't my style, but if I get to go in the short line...

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Re: - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-03-26 11:42 pm UTC

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-03-27 02:03 pm UTC (link)
People who use ANY kind of disorder as an excuse for not trying piss me off.

It's quite infuriating having people say "no, you're clearly not AS because you're interacting with me". YES. AND IT INVOLVES A LOT OF HARD WORK. Gah.

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(no subject) - redwarrior, 2004-03-27 08:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]amasaglajax, 2004-03-27 09:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2004-03-28 07:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-03-28 09:42 am UTC
OK, time to wig out.
[info]virago
2004-03-27 12:50 am UTC (link)
Maybe I read too fast, but that thread wasn't that bad; I was encouraged by the fact that people didn't jump down the OP's throat drooling about how BRILLIANT everything was. Points for that.

That said, on the general topic / previous posts (and partly spawned by another comm I've been visiting recently, that's driving me up a wall):

1. I hate the concept of "mundanes" or anything approaching such. And I used to think like that, back in the day. OMG the preps are evil OMG! And then I grew up. We're all people - of infinite variety - trapped on this roller coaster of a world. You are not special. Get over yourself.

2. I'm becoming convinced that if you can draw a line around any group of people, sooner or later they'll convince themselves that they are innately better than everybody else. ANY group. No exceptions. Dig deep enough and any group - ANY! - will be convinced that nobody truly understands them.

3. A milder form of 2: I hate the idea of disorders making you "cooler" than anyone. The mere phrase "touched with fire" makes me want to rip people's tracheas out. Your disorder does not make you cool. It does not make you a bad person or a pariah, no. But neither does it make you better. It's just something you've got, that you deal with. It is a fact, neither a virtue or a sin. (Sorry, kitten, you don't get a free pass to Coolsville just because genetics gave you the shaft. You're going to have to try harder than that. No, it's not a karmic tradeoff. There is no karmic tradeoff. Life's a bitch like that.)

4. The day I waltz around claiming to be teh d33p - or, [deity] forbid, a frigging "genius" - because of my watered-down pseudodepression (or my star sign, or my personality type, or my fandom, or my handedness, or my sock color) is the day everyone is authorized to shoot me.

All right then. *grabs box of tissues and gets to work*

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Re: OK, time to wig out.
[info]lurker32
2004-03-27 01:16 am UTC (link)
Yah, I posted it partly because it was such a nice neat package. The opener, the warning sign, the plunge into ad hominem attacks, the efficient speed with which furries were dragged into it. Small, but oh so compact.

For the serious flame extravaganza, you gotta look at the nakedmen posts. Now that's some scary shit.

And yes, I agree. Actually I'd venture to say that most of the members of that comm are not that deluded; they just lurk, while the nutbars are frequent posters. It's one thing to make a virtue of your disability if you can; it's entirely another to parade around demanding praise for it. Sometimes a neurological quirk is just a neurological quirk.

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Re: OK, time to wig out.
[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-27 01:20 am UTC (link)
Your disorder does not make you cool. It does not make you a bad person or a pariah, no. But neither does it make you better. It's just something you've got, that you deal with.

baby, let's get married.

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Squee back. - [info]virago, 2004-03-27 03:01 am UTC
Re: Squee back. - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2004-03-27 03:07 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out.
[info]jfpbookworm
2004-03-27 03:43 am UTC (link)
Word.

Words.

Picture.

I know I'm breaking one of my own laws by saying this, but reading through that community just made me want to slap a bunch of people. It reminds me of when I used to read alt.support.shyness - instead of being about coping with introversion, the newsgroup had degenerated into people one-upping each other with tales of social phobia, and bashing extroverts for just about everything. I had to stop reading it because rather than helping me, it was making my own shyness a lot worse.

Here I've seen plenty of bashing of well-intentioned "neurotypicals" (because everyone without Asperger's is of course not only a perfectly adjusted individual, but intolerant of anyone who isn't; it's a superset of Snacky's Law) by people who don't seem to realize that getting along is a two-way street, and others aren't obligated to give them a free pass. But of course, it's much easier to complain about how the "NTs/extroverts/mundanes/etc. don't understand us" than it is to actually try to help them understand.

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Re: OK, time to wig out.
[info]musette
2004-03-27 09:26 am UTC (link)
2. I'm becoming convinced that if you can draw a line around any group of people, sooner or later they'll convince themselves that they are innately better than everybody else. ANY group. No exceptions. Dig deep enough and any group - ANY! - will be convinced that nobody truly understands them.

Actually, you're totally right, there have been studies to prove basically this same fact. I was just reading about a study in my anthro book where they took a small group of people (like eight or ten if memory serves) and flashed slides of dots on a screen at them. They were supposed to, v. quickly, estimate the number of dots on the screen and write them down. The testers then took their estimates and put the people in two groups -- overestimaters and underestimaters. They then put the two groups in seperate rooms and left them there to chat for a few minutes, and then brought the two groups together again. Almost immediately (literaly, in the span of minutes), elements of a sort of ethnocentrism and feelings of group superiority started to be demonstrated.

Um yes, rambling now, but it's apparently a v. engrained human behaviour.

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Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]smo, 2004-03-28 01:45 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]musette, 2004-03-28 10:32 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]smo, 2004-03-29 03:31 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]musette, 2004-03-29 08:11 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]smo, 2004-03-29 08:44 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]musette, 2004-03-29 09:21 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]smo, 2004-03-29 10:12 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]musette, 2004-03-29 10:46 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]virago, 2004-04-01 02:05 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]musette, 2004-04-01 03:24 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]virago, 2004-04-03 04:13 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]limyaael, 2004-03-27 05:27 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - redwarrior, 2004-03-27 08:15 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]baskinglizard, 2004-03-27 08:59 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]amasaglajax, 2004-03-27 09:50 pm UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]virago, 2004-04-03 04:20 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]liarliar, 2004-03-28 02:01 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]virago, 2004-04-03 04:18 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]liarliar, 2004-04-03 04:22 am UTC
Re: OK, time to wig out. - [info]wakkymse, 2004-03-29 03:56 am UTC

[info]rann
2004-03-27 03:29 am UTC (link)
So is AS the "disorder du jour" the way that manic depression and such usually is? "OMG im all depressed so i haf a disorder u better be nice 2 me!!!" in that case?
How does one know if they -actually- have AS? How does it differ from, say, AADD or something?

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 05:25 am UTC
Re: - [info]rann, 2004-03-27 05:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 05:37 am UTC
Re: - [info]rann, 2004-03-27 05:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tigerlily, 2004-03-27 08:07 am UTC
Re: - [info]rann, 2004-03-27 08:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-27 02:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2004-03-27 05:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]liarliar, 2004-03-28 02:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-28 02:19 am UTC
Re: - [info]liarliar, 2004-03-28 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-03-27 05:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-03-27 07:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-27 05:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rann, 2004-03-27 05:41 am UTC
IMNSH(at all)O - [info]virago, 2004-03-27 07:35 am UTC
Re: IMNSH(at all)O - [info]phosfate, 2004-03-29 05:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-03-27 07:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]glomobius, 2004-03-29 03:51 am UTC

[info]terminal_frost
2004-03-27 10:21 am UTC (link)
*reads the first thread and saves the second for later*

Is this a good time or a bad time to say that I'm getting tested for AS?

If this is the crowd I'm going to be hanging out with, perhaps it was better to not agree to my support worker's suggestion to go and get tested (still haven't gotten my second interview - and it's been 18 months too, dangit).

Perhaps there's still hope...

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-03-27 11:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - edward_hyde, 2004-03-27 08:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminal_frost, 2004-03-27 11:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-03-29 08:03 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-03-27 03:32 pm UTC (link)
Asperger's Syndrome. It's a mild form of autism and, unfortunately, also the kEwLiEz disorder du jour.

*twitch*

As someone with Asperger's, I find that insulting. It is NOT "kewliez"!

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(no subject) - [info]lurker32, 2004-03-27 03:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-27 03:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2004-03-27 08:10 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-03-29 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Asperger is not a mild form of autism.. just a highfunctioning form. Some people have severe aspergers, some people have mild...

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-04-09 12:38 am UTC (link)
I must be the only Aspie who didn't know there was a comm for it.

Mayhap I can be a voice of reason or something.

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