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	iris 2003-09-07 01:25 am UTC (link)
	The pro-choice movement: We're like Nazis, in a way. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tempslut 2003-09-08 06:16 am UTC (link)
	Someone SO needs to make an icon of that. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	soleta 2003-09-07 02:25 am UTC (link)
	I think that's the first time I've seen Godwin's Law called on their own side... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	naltariel 2003-09-07 12:29 pm UTC (link)
	What is Godwin's Law? run and hides in shame (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Godwin's Law setsunastar 2003-09-07 01:48 pm UTC (link)
	"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Godwin's Law naltariel 2003-09-07 03:13 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	snowball 2003-09-07 09:48 am UTC (link)
	Note to that one guy: Invoking Godwin's Law only makes you look like a hysterical crybaby and undermines your credibility horribly. Also, you might want to think of some arguments that DON'T involve Jesus. Religion-based arguments don't work in real debate. Cheers, Alex (abortion fence-sitter) (Reply to this)

	redpanda 2003-09-07 10:06 am UTC (link)
	On a tangent, I think I'm going to vomit if I see that Amelie icon one more time. I don't know why, I've never even seen the movie, but that picture...I want to slap that woman silly. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tempslut 2003-09-07 10:34 pm UTC (link)
	I agree with you, even though I love the movie and own it on DVD. (Reply to this)(Parent)

limyaael
2003-09-07 03:15 pm UTC (link)

Oh, this is lovely.

I just adore the one poster asking why someone who told the woman having an abortion that it was murder couldn't have the woman's "best interests" at heart. Yes, much like the people who come and preach until the foam flies out of their mouths on my campus really have the students' best interests at heart.

Although, I loved the response about: "How can people get out of the abusive relationship they have with your god?"

*sporfle*

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	quinctia 2003-09-08 06:35 am UTC (link)
	Thanks! teehee (Reply to this)(Parent)

teratologist
2003-09-07 04:04 pm UTC (link)

Man, I couldn't really read much of that at all. Abortion arguments make my eyes get all blurry.

But Jesus-mongering-dude doesn't know much about church history there, acting like "Well, if the 'babies' go to be with God then where's the bad?" is a dumb response. That was a significant question in the early church, and not just with regards to fetuses, but with adult converts trying to get on the fast highway to martyrdom or even just plain offing themselves. Hence why suicide was declared a sin, so that the church would have some actual living members left. (They also had to stamp out an epidemic of men 'making themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heavan's sake." I really don't get religious zeal sometimes.)

I also love how they jump in first off with the assumption that an unwanted pregnancy is a result of 'sin' and then get their wheels stuck in the mud trying to make a U-turn when they find out that the fetus in question is the result of rape. (To say nothing of the statistically significant, but apparently completely ignored, number of abortions that occur in married women, fucking their husbands like good wives, who already have kids and just don't - gasp, shock, horror - want anymore after the birth control fails.)

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	jfpbookworm 2003-09-07 08:10 pm UTC (link)
	I stopped reading when the middle-America meathead posted "God didn't kill his son. The Romans and the Jews did." (Reply to this)(Thread)

tempslut
2003-09-07 10:41 pm UTC (link)

I know this isn't a logical argument, but fuck, I'll say it anyway:

I wonder what would happen if that guy somehow found out his (hypothetical) girlfriend was pregnant. Only in such a situation would he be able to understand what a lot of women go through.

People can be against abortion all they want. It's when they act like they're holier-than-thou for their point of view and can't understand why others don't feel the same way they do that really pisses me off.

And even more puzzling? People who are against abortion and birth control. If that's the case, then what do you suggest we do (other than abstinence, which 90-plus% of people don't practice before marriage anyway) in order to keep the world from being further overpopulated?

(Excuse my ranting. I volunteered at a Planned Parenthood phone bank this past Friday regarding a bill that would place a waiting period for abortions. Never mind my state only has three clinics.)

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	rann 2003-09-07 09:02 pm UTC (link)
	Help me this day not to wank... because by all that is Darwin I have the great urge to smackdown some of the logical fallacies... @.@ (Reply to this)