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	kijikun 2004-05-18 01:17 am UTC (link)
	I've got to wonder what Bludstone wanted to here? I mean at least call the aparment mangment. (Reply to this)

	kyuuketsukirui 2004-05-18 01:18 am UTC (link)
	I know I sure wouldn't give a single shit about the kidnapping of some kid. There's just too many on this Earth already, to bother worrying about any single one to such an extent. That's just more wank waiting to happen right there... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	kijikun 2004-05-18 01:26 am UTC (link)
	I hope it's a troll but knowing the thoughts of some people in that comm. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-05-18 01:30 am UTC (link)
	In our defense the majority of the posters are telling her to call someone about the situation. We're not all like that! Really. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kijikun 2004-05-18 01:31 am UTC (link)
	Oh I know, but there are a few that thoughts on children worry me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	notapirate 2004-05-18 03:57 am UTC (link)
	I don't think child-free started off as child-hate, but that is what a large majority of people I've met from that community act like. Not all who post there feel that way most likely, I'm sure, but people remember those militant idiots more than those select few. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gal_montag 2004-05-18 03:01 am UTC (link)
	Smells like a troll. 2 posts and a nember of only Child Free. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	moonjaguar 2004-05-18 04:02 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, childfree tends to be a troll magnet. At one point LJ Drama was quite publicly and actively trolling them (in their "troll contest" and likely still doing it outside of it). (Reply to this)(Parent)

	schuldig 2004-05-18 01:37 am UTC (link)
	Aye, I've got my mouse hovering over the 'reply to this' link. So tempting... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	purest_chaos 2004-05-18 07:22 am UTC (link)
	Only hovering? I'm resisting the urge to hit post comment right now, as I've already typed something up. ... And it's probably a good thing that I just realized I'm not logged into my fanfic journal, rather then my personal journal before attempting to click. Resuming resisting urges now... >.>;; (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	/enabler iczer6 2004-05-18 07:34 am UTC (link)
	Do it. Dooooo ittttttttt. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lurker32 2004-05-18 01:26 am UTC (link)
	Oh wow, it's coming from all directions here, innit? "Gee, I think this is kind of a shitty way to treat a kid, but doing something about it would, like, take effort." "OMG do you not SEE how SHITTY that is?! You fiend!!!!11one! You must SAVE TEH BAYBEE!" "You all suck and if this random kid is kidnapped and murdered I will LAUGH!" Jeepers, people. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-05-18 01:44 am UTC (link)
	OMG do you not SEE how SHITTY that is?! You fiend!!!!11one! You must SAVE TEH BAYBEE!" I don't think anyone's saying she should make it a personal crusade but I think she do something. I'm morbidly amused by her insistence that since the girl's in an enclosed area she'll be fine. Because nothing bad ever happens when you're inside a building. /eye roll. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lurker32 2004-05-18 02:27 am UTC (link)
	Nah, I think that's the least idiotic leg of the tripod ;) It's mainly the fact of EVERYBODY jumping in to echo each other that amuses me. But I agree leaving the poor brat to howl and/or be abducted and/or fall down the stairs is not cool. (Reply to this)(Parent)

sagralisse
2004-05-18 04:04 pm UTC (link)

I don't get that she's in a particularly unsafe place. Kids play outside in their yards and parking lots and apartment hallways all the time, depending on the neighborhood. I don't think you can make a good case for that being physical neglect because the child is sitting in the hallway for 10-15 minutes. As long as he's yelling, then he's obviously still there by the door.

Psychologically? It's abusive.

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	schuldig 2004-05-18 01:33 am UTC (link)
	While I agree with the commenters, is anyone else sick of all those posts on childfree that begin "I'm not childfree, but I want to complain about this kid because that's what you guys do here"? I supppose Bludstone is 'semi-fluent' in childfreedom. (Reply to this)(Thread)

eiviiaru
2004-05-18 10:09 pm UTC (link)

is anyone else sick of all those posts on childfree that begin "I'm not childfree, but I want to complain about this kid because that's what you guys do here"?

Rather, yes. While I also find most of the CFers' posts complaining about kids irritating (especially when the kids' offenses are things like "not being absolutely dead quiet during a children's movie" and "being less than a year old and in the same public place as the poster"), I will admit that they at least have a legitimate reason to belong to childfree. People who join who aren't CF but just like bashing kids appear to be totally missing the point

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	ashenmote 2004-05-18 02:04 am UTC (link)
	I wouldn't be overly worried about the chance of molesters or psycho would be mums happening by in a hallway on the 15th floor, if the kid is locked out only for a while and rarely so. But what the parents do still IS neglectful and damaging, just like that, without any further misfortune. (Reply to this)

nicolae
2004-05-18 02:38 am UTC (link)

Actually, other then this one disciplinary action; they are very good parents, from what ive seen. (reading to their child, teaching manners, helping with school work, ect) I can hear most everything that goes on in their apartment (although i do tend to blank it out.) Ive never heard the family seriously fight before. And Ive not heard anything to suggest physical violence is active.

Because, you know, it's unpossible to abuse a child without loud noises.

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	also_not_a_pipe 2004-05-18 02:50 am UTC (link)
	I have no problems with "putting up" with crying from inside their apartment (i have a loud stereo, so I consider it a trade-off) Mmmyeah, because adding that much more noise to bother your other neighbors is a totally just and equitable solution. Good deal. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	meshou 2004-05-18 02:54 am UTC (link)
	Yes. And considering how easy it is to turn off your child, it's totally valid to compare a child to a stereo. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	also_not_a_pipe 2004-05-18 05:37 am UTC (link)
	Heh. Given how s/he talks about the stereo, I'm not sure s/he's aware that it can be turned down, either. It just came like that, you know. The quiet models were all sold out. And the ones with volume control, geez! What do you think s/he is, made of money? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Random acts of boredom meshou 2004-05-18 06:38 am UTC (link)
	Probably a good reason you don't have an icon. I made one anyway. Take if you want. Don't if you don't. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Random acts of boredom also_not_a_pipe 2004-05-19 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Perfectly good reasons. Mostly centering around the fact that I am teh lazeh and don't even have even-tempered icon-making skillz, let alone mad ones. So basically, yay icon! Thanks! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gal_montag 2004-05-18 02:57 am UTC (link)
	All I hear from this thread is "moo, moo, moo." So quick to bitch someone out who doesn't instantly jump to protect the precious children. You're all acting like the kind of people you rant about here. Yeah. Ass. Hat. Because a kid that's all fucked up from abuse is the one who's going to be caring for you in the nursing home, and I'm sure you really want that. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-05-18 03:04 am UTC (link)
	/Sarcasm Well I can see where he's coming from. I mean it is annoying that the comm members are telling her that she should do the right thing, even if it is a pain in the ass. Because we know that if you don't want or have kids of your own you couldn't possibly care for their welfare. /end sarcasm (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gal_montag 2004-05-18 03:06 am UTC (link)
	splorfle I know. So so wrong to care about other human beings. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2004-05-18 03:41 am UTC (link)
	You mean... I don't live in a vacuum? bowled over (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: gal_montag 2004-05-18 03:47 am UTC (link)
	I know, it's shocking. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	wolfsamurai 2004-05-18 03:40 am UTC (link)
	sniff It's so nice to see Bludstone expanding his wanking portfolio besides anime. He was so good at being a pretentious anime fan that I think he was bound to wank elsewhere eventually. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	blackjackrocket 2004-05-18 03:55 am UTC (link)
	Oh? Hast thou his prior wankage? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

wolfsamurai
2004-05-18 04:04 am UTC (link)

I don't really have any links to any of it. He doesn't really wank much in communities anymore, though he used to. All his wanks were much of the "I like both subs and dubs so I'm better than you plebes who prefer one or the other" or "I only buy commercial anime, so I'm better than you dirty pirates/fithy fansubbers/disrespectful importers" varieties. I'm fairly sure he spooged in a friends LJ when FMA got liscensed, but I was so disgusted by the antics in that particular post (where the people mocking the fangirls who were upset over FMA liscensing were as spoogy as the fangirls themselves) that I probably missed it.

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-18 10:08 pm UTC (link)

Oooh, I'm in this one! I'm in this one!

Bludstone keeps insisting, that s/he wants to do something, but not anything inconvenient. And if s/he gets anyone involved, either the kid or the parents will be brutally ripped away from the loving family. Also, they are in fact good parents, because the walls are thin and therefore if they abused their child, s/he would be able to hear it!

Yes, this did hit one of my bitch buttons. Why do you ask?

Adrienne (also known as foster9563).

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eiviiaru
2004-05-18 10:11 pm UTC (link)

I'm just sort of gobsmacked at the "I want to do something! But not anything that will require me to do anything serious or treat this like anything more than a noise complaint!" attitude. One wonders if bludstone would care at all if the kid was quietly being psychologically abused.

I'm surprised nobody's suggested just duct-taping her mouth shut. I mean, it'd solve the noise!

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-18 10:25 pm UTC (link)

I despised the 'But they're good parents! They don't beat her or starve her or anything! They read to their kid! And lock her out instead of actually disciplining her, but OMG they're good parents and if I say anything the POLICE will take them away and traumatise the little girl for LIFE!!!1' part of it.

And I get the impression that if it weren't for the screaming, Bludstone would be happy with the entire situation. S/he seems to be confused that we didn't come over all 'GRRR! That's one little brat that's gonna be scarred for life! MWAHAHAHA!' or maybe 'Don't do anything. It's not your problem', but tried to give advice and then leapt down his/her throat when s/he protested against doing anything.

Shit, I think I just gave away the entire thing.

Adrienne.

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-18 10:28 pm UTC (link)

Oh, and:

I'm surprised nobody's suggested just duct-taping her mouth shut. I mean, it'd solve the noise!

We're horrible heartless people who don't think life is all about OMFG TEH BAYBEEZ!!!!1! and don't intend to have any of our own. We're not evil. *grin* ;-)

...Well, most of us anyway. The rest are either trolls, or rational people who know when not to go off on one. *grin*

Adrienne.

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	plazmah 2004-05-19 02:09 am UTC (link)
	For some reason the first thing I thought after reading the post was "Bludstone is talking about herself!" But that's just me. (Reply to this)