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Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011, 11:51 am
![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif) das_mervin: Breaking Dawn Rating Discussion
"The filmmakers are united in their desire to honor the spirit of the book while maintaining the invaluable PG-13 rating [for Breaking Dawn]."Vampires doing kicks." "Soft porn." "A crime against our audience." "Newlywed tension." Fear not, Twi-hards, your beloved movie franchise will not contain any of those potentially offensive elements, even as its final two chapters tackle the thorny issues of sexual intimacy, a bloody birth, and a director known for his musical numbers. Except for "newlywed tension": that will definitely be an important component of 'The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1,' due out in theaters in November.
Producer Wyck Godfrey explained to USA Today that domestic issues will take precedence over the action in 'Breaking Part 1,' as Bella (Kristen Stewart) and Edward (Robert Pattinson) discover marriage "is not quite the experience that they thought it was," especially after enjoying a "romantic and sensual" -- but definitely not "soft porn"! -- honeymoon. The picture above, released a while back, is a "morning after" look at Bella's arm, which may give you an idea of the chaste tastefulness that will characterize the night when Bella loses more than her memory. But what of the product of their love?
When their love child bursts forth from Bella's body in a hail of blood, bones, and gooey stuff, it will all be seen from Bella's point of view, "looking through the haze" of a very painful experience, thus neatly side-stepping the more explicit descriptions in Stephenie Meyer's novel. The producer says "it would be a crime against our audience to go R-rated." This confirms what screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg said last summer. (For a more extensive weighing of the pros and cons of showing the bloody birth scene on the big screen, see this great article by our own Jessica Barnes -- and check out the passionate debate it sparked.)
The interview features other tidbits of information: where, exactly, the book will be split ("The first part will cover the wedding, the honeymoon and the birth. The film ends just before she embarks on her supernatural transformation"); how Jacob's section of the book will be handled in the films; why Bill Condon ('Dreamgirls') was selected to direct; and the possibility of a vampire "soft-shoe shuffle." If nothing else, it's clear that the filmmakers are united in their desire to honor the spirit of the book while maintaining the invaluable PG-13 rating. Whether they succeed or not will be entirely up to you.The line that jumped out at me was, " The producer says 'it would be a crime against our audience to go R-rated.'" My good sir, you do not know your central audience for Breaking Dawn. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 06:00 pm (UTC)
tofuknight
a "morning after" look at Bella's arm, which may give you an idea of the chaste tastefulness that will characterize the night when Bella loses more than her memoryI totally thought this was sarcastic, and I was going to see some zombie arm in the picture. Imagine my disappointment when I clicked the link and I only realized that Bella had honeymoon sex with a chicken. :( Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 06:04 pm (UTC)
das_mervin
Bella had honeymoon sex with a chicken. :(You made me lol. Also, that is so accurate in so many ways, when one considers that Edward Cullen is the biggest coward I've ever seen in literature... Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 06:12 pm (UTC)
okalintu
I thought so too, but instead of a zombie arm I expected to see bruises and pillows with teeth marks. Imagine my disappointment... Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 10:59 pm (UTC)
keri
Me, too! I wondered how they could make the bruises on her arm romantic, because I recall reading that chapter and her talking about the bruises all over, so that includes arms, right? surely?! Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 06:57 pm (UTC)
lafemmedarla: Wait, does that mean...
Bella had honeymoon sex with a chicken. :(  Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 08:52 pm (UTC)
tofuknight: LOL
Oh God, do I want an old-time Warner Bros version of Twilight. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 10:01 pm (UTC)
lafemmedarla: Re: LOL
Now I cannot stop imagining Dottie as Bella... Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 10:03 pm (UTC)
anarchicq: Re: LOL
And Runt as Jacob. "I Definitely, definitely love you Bella. Definitely!" Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 11:06 pm (UTC)
argylespy: Re: LOL
That would make Rita that one Cullen chick that (SHOCK) doesn't IMMEDIATELY FALL IN LOVE with Bella, right? Oo! And can Dr. Scratchensniff be Emmet?! And Hello Nurse as . . . the mother-lady. Hel-LOOOOOO Mrs. Cullen! Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 11:07 pm (UTC)
argylespy: Re: LOL
Oh wait, you said Jacob, not Edward. I should try reading things sometime. I stand by Dr. Scratchensniff and Hello Nurse, though! Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 07:15 am (UTC)
khym_chanur: Re: Wait, does that mean...
"He's not a vampire! He's a chicken, I tell you, a giant chicken!!" Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 02:03 pm (UTC)
lafemmedarla: Re: Wait, does that mean...
Nonsense! Look at his clucking and flapping his wings like any other vampire. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 06:25 pm (UTC)
anarchicq
... the night when Bella loses more than her memory....Eeeewww. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 08:46 pm (UTC)
miraba
Yeah. I need to find a paper bag. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 08:24 pm (UTC)
shocolate
So... Part II consists solely of an army of Italian vampires arriving, saying, "oh, well, never mind", and going home? What am I complaining about... nothing happens in four whole books... there is nowhere logical to split it! Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 09:21 pm (UTC)
ayala_atreides
("The first part will cover the wedding, the honeymoon and the birth. The film ends just before she embarks on her supernatural transformation")This sounds like the most boring movie ever made. Ye gods. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 10:16 pm (UTC)
lyrangalia
But at least the porn version will be easy to make? Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 03:08 am (UTC)
quietladybirman
I honestly didn't think it would be possible to top the fiesta of pointless dullitude that was New Moon but my God, Sir, I think they might just have done it. The mad fools! Fun Fact: New Moon left such an indelible blank on my mind that I completely forgot its title and had to Google it. I don't know what that says about the movie since I actually watched it, but it certainly says something. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 09:39 pm (UTC)
cmdr_zoom
Noo! I want my alien birth! I want a fountain of blood! I want shaken teens staggering from the theater, wondering why they ever thought this was a good idea! Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 10:15 pm (UTC)
lyrangalia
When their love child bursts forth from Bella's body in a hail of blood, bones, and gooey stuff, it will all be seen from Bella's point of view, "looking through the haze" of a very painful experience, thus neatly side-stepping the more explicit descriptions in Stephenie Meyer's novel.DAMMIT I WANT MY VAMPIRE TEETH C-SECTION IN ALL ITS BLOODY OM NOM NOMING 3-D GORY. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 01:56 am (UTC)
spawn_of_kong
This comment is good and you should feel good. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 06:13 am (UTC)
lyrangalia
I will, but I will admit that I would feel much better if they played the birthing scene straight and I can bathe in the horrified screaming tears of Twihards as they leave the theatre. Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 05:28 am (UTC)
sandglass
A birthing scene where we see Edward biting into Bella's midsection, from Bella's point of view could be appropriately horrifying. Fri, Jan. 7th, 2011 11:30 pm (UTC)
feenix
Funny. And here I was thinking that it would be a crime against the audience to not go R-rated. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 08:02 pm (UTC)
caffeine_fairy
I think it's just a crime against the audience, tbh. Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 12:03 am (UTC)
feenix
Yeah, but Breaking Dawn without the omnomnomnom is kind of like the Human Centipede with the Human Centipede. Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 01:06 am (UTC)
das_mervin
My God, that is probably the best and most apt description of a PG-13 BD with no caesearean dentata I've ever seen. *gives you an internet and one of the peanut-butter-cup cookies she has in her kitchen* Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 10:20 am (UTC)
feenix
Human Centipede with the Human CentipedeShould be without. derp But I think the meaning was clear. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 12:53 am (UTC)
uldihaa
I'm calling them out on chickening out of this. They're just trying to avoid sending most of their fanbase running and screaming into the hills. the thorny issues of sexual intimacy, a bloody birth, and a director known for his musical numbers.Now I'm imagining this movie as a Broadway musical. With the actors and actresses dancing and singing and spinning around a blood-fountain Bella, cheerful music playing and Bella matching the beat with gushes of blood. Alternatively, the music would be this with the actors stomping and spinning around blood-fountain Bella. *STOMP* *STOMP* *SPIN* With the blood going *GURGLE* *GURGLE* *GUSH* to the beat. As a bonus, the second option could be played completely straight, with only those in audience that have seen 'Lord of the Rings' catching the joke. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 01:54 am (UTC)
spawn_of_kong
I heartily approve of this second option. :D Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 06:50 am (UTC)
chienne: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
Bill Condon? David Cronenberg would have been more appropriate, methinks... Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 08:57 am (UTC)
cmdr_zoom: Re: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
Or Ridley Scott. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 10:39 am (UTC)
adevyish: Re: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
See, I would have actually watched that. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 01:31 pm (UTC)
cleolinda: Re: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
Apparently Robert Pattinson is now going to do a non-Twilight movie with David Cronenberg. I shook my fist at the heavens. SO CLOSE, AND YET SO FAR. Mon, Jan. 10th, 2011 03:21 am (UTC)
perletwo: Re: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
Maybe we can lobby Cronenberg for a random uterus-chewing scene in whatever movie they're making together? It's not like DC doesn't have a certain amount of precedent for this sort of thing. Mon, Jan. 10th, 2011 07:50 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: Reposted, because I hit "post comment" while trying to edit
I've been saying Cronenberg ever since I read the original Breaking Wind Dawn wank. I mean, this is right up the man's alley. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 11:37 am (UTC)
southerngaelic
Translation: we'd like to milk this cash cow for all its worth and an R-rating would only hasten the inevitable drying up of said milk. Sat, Jan. 8th, 2011 11:14 pm (UTC)
argylespy
Not to mention splitting it into two parts. I mean, I know the book was long, but how much of that was actual story? Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 12:04 am (UTC)
feenix
Shit, how much of the first three books was actual story? Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 01:14 am (UTC)
argylespy
Touché. Sun, Jan. 9th, 2011 05:33 am (UTC)
chienne
Very, very little. I'd say that they could junk about half of it with no problem, like: Bella angsting over announcing her engagement to her parents, Jacob going apeshit at the wedding, 50% of the honeymoon, Jacob feeling sorry for himself, Edward's love affair with Food Network, Edward and a newly-vampirized Bella hunting and frolicking in a meadow, Alice complaining about her headaches, Jacob and Edward's long bromance with each other and occasionally Seth Clearwater.... Wed, Jan. 19th, 2011 06:48 am (UTC)
chibikaijuu
As far as I am concerned, the film should consist entirely of Epic Bromance and Uterus Nomming. Sethward 4EVER Tue, Jan. 11th, 2011 03:45 pm (UTC)
ohigetit
Ugh, way to ruin Twilight EVEN MORE. Wed, Jan. 26th, 2011 09:58 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)
there wasn't much to ruin, regardless. Thu, Sep. 29th, 2011 10:28 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): fmpNglPxPAdDFvhND
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