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| | Subject: | Rewriting DH so Snape Saves the Day! | | Time: | 10:06 pm |
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| oryx_leucoryx rambles on about Snape, ded from snake, and the Elder Wand.
It actually read rather reasonably IMO, but the part that made me guffaw was this:
Harry arrives at Hogwarts to search for the Ravenclaw Horcrux, Voldemort prepares for attack on the school as in canon, except he does not attack Severus. Severus escapes so as not to have to fight the teachers nor open the school to Voldemort and sees Nagini under protection. He sends the doe Patronus to call Harry to an encounter where he tells him all, including Harry's status as Horcrux, Harry explains to Severus about the other Horcruxes and where they stand. Harry and friends take care of the cup and diadem, while Severus remains hidden. Then Harry and Severus have to tackle Harry, Nagini and Voldemort. I think their best chance is if Harry goes to offer himself with Severus accompanying him disillusioned, or perhaps Severus brings Harry as his 'prisoner'. (Perhaps it would have helped to have more support, but with only Ron and Hermione knowing anything about Horcruxes I can't imagine Harry and Severus being able to convince anyone else that Harry's voluntary death isn't the result of another act of treachery by Severus. I doubt Ron could be convinced, and I can't see Harry involving Hermione but not Ron. At most Harry would tell friends about Nagini.)
Once again, Snape gets elevated to co-author of Voldemort's destruction. Note how oryx_leucoryx completely glosses over a great deal of arguing, stress and tension in that little 'tells him all' part. *rolls eyes*
And get a load of the "Nagini bites Harry and Sevvie rushes in to save the day" Option 2. *rolls eyes again*
And if you read the peanut gallery, you see the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth beginning to happen as they rail against his "cheesy death". | comments: 12 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
| | Subject: | Some more insanity from vaudree | | Time: | 01:14 pm |
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| From her today's post:
Wasn’t it Draco whose jinx hit Hermione? If one acknowledges the crime, then one has to acknowledge the criminal. Hermione was not in pain, but she was humiliated by the jinx because a part of her appearance she disliked had become even more pronounced. Ron was being mean too because, instead of considering Hermione’s feelings, he was bent on revealing Draco’s crime so that Draco would get punished. Snape’s comments could be interpreted two ways – one that Hermione should not be so concerned with appearances – because they do not matter. The other is that since Hermione’s teeth were already long, they didn’t seem any longer. It is hard to discern between the two since, except for Lily’s eyes, Snape doesn’t seem too concern with appearances.
I think that JKR got “I see no difference” from Salmon Rushdie’s SV the part where the guy who condemned Baal said that he saw no difference between poets and prostitutes. It is just the same tone and flow of words in both and JKR was in awe of Rushdie during the interview they did together. Why is it that women are so hung up with our appearances any way. Aren’t we more than just the way we look? The teeth did not enhance Hermione’s appearance, but they also did not prevent her from learning or performing magic.
Mudblood – are you saying that couples in mixed marriages do not bring out the racial slurs when they have arguments? People say the most hurtful things they can think of when they feel slighted or hurt by those they care about. Not addressing that one again – said it too many times. | comments: 58 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
| | Subject: | Snape is like Eliza Bennett in a way | | Time: | 12:16 pm |
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| Silver Ink Pot/rattlesnakeroot never fails to bring the lulz:
I'm going to ramble a bit about Jane Austen and Snape:
I see Harry as more of an Emma, and I believe JKR even mentioned Emma as an inspiration. Harry is naive and sure of himself like Emma. And they both make mistakes have to eat some crow in order to grow up and gain wisdom. It's the people around them who have the drama although they do their part to set things in motion that they don't really understand.
And that's where the big difference with Snape comes in. He is also full of confidence as a boy when he gets on the train to Hogwarts, but unlike Harry he loses his best friend and gains alot of bad friends. And then Snape's life goes downhill from there.
You could say that Snape is something of an Eliza Bennett when he is young, even though she has a much happier ending.
In Pride and Prejudice, Eliza constantly finds herself at a social disadvantage due to her embarrassing family and their lack of money. People are constantly putting her down for reasons that have nothing to do with her own worth - just as Slytherins are dismissed as evil, or Snape is taunted for his nose or gray underwear. Eliza is brilliant, but only her father seems aware of it, just as Slughorn seems to be the only one who was aware of Snape's intelligence.
When Eliza holds her head high, she is thought to be getting above her station in life and bullies like Mr. Bingley's sisters have to put her in her place. Eliza is also very loyal refuses to believe all the bad things she is hearing about her friend Mr. Wickham, just as Snape won't believe what Lily says about Mulciber. So Lily plays the Mr. Darcy role in having this dark knowledge about Mulciber. But sadly, it's as if Darcy had already fallen in love with Miss Bingley and left Eliza standing there with no one left but Mr. Wickham. Yes, I think that analogy works. Lily had already fallen for James and left Snape without any friends except Mulciber and the other Slytherins.
Both Snape and Eliza Bennett have to learn from hard experience just what bad people their so-called friends can be. I think that's why Eliza is a more realistic protagonist than the girl in Mansfield Park who is never fooled by anyone, and why Snape is sometimes more appealing than Harry. Sure, Harry is misled by people, but he is blessed with friends who never let him down and never betray him. He also never has to prove himself to anyone - they just accept him, while Snape feels he has to impress people by becoming a Death Eater, while Eliza is pressured to act a certain way to "catch" a rich husband.
To wrap up my rambling: Of course, Eliza never sinks to the same level of Wickham, but then Snape also avoids using Unforgivables unlike Mulciber. Snape avoids prison thanks to Dumbledore, but I believe Snape also gave information that landed Mulciber in jail, which shows how much he changed from when he was a kid. The main thing is that both Eliza and Snape make a choice - Eliza refuses to either be a snob or to throw her life away like her sister Lydia, who runs away with Wickham. Something much worse happens to Snape when he tells the Prophecy to Voldemort and lives to regret it, but he also manages to redefine himself as a good guy while remaining the Half-Blood Prince from Spinner's End.
ETA: One more thing . . . Eliza is wracked with guilt over the shotgun marriage of Lydia to Wickham. She feels responsible because of secret knowledge she had of Wickham which she never told anyone. That's a nifty literary parallel to Snape. Eliza couldn't control what Lydia did, or what Wickham did, but she still blames herself and only confiding in Mr. Darcy solves the problem. | comments: 37 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
| | Subject: | Pstibbons update | | Time: | 04:45 pm |
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| Have you been wondering what pstibbons has been up to lately? More than that, have you been wondering what pstibbons might do if he ever turned his attentions to Snape? Well, wonder no more. "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Bellatrix" lacks his usual Ron torture and Hermione worship, but never fear! It includes Snape torture and angst, Marauder bashing, and incomprehensible lines such as:
"We've killed him!" yelled Remus. "By Toutatis, we've fucking killed him!" (I looked it up: Toutatis was a Celtic god worshiped in ancient Gaul and Britain. And apparently by Remus Lupin. Pstibbons is just so smart, isn't he?) and "She had never heard such a pot of heronistic crock in her life." (bolding mine - the "she" here refers to Lily. Why Lily would use pstibbon's made up "insult" referencing people who ship Ron and Hermione, I will never know. I didn't spot a "gorram" yet, but I'm pretty sure it's only a matter of time.)
To be fair, pstibbons warns us not to read this fic in his opening author's note: "A/N: Fans of the Marauders should not read this. Those who believe James and Lily were fated for each other should not read this. Snape haters should not read this. Those who think Dark Magic is too serious to laugh at should not read this. Those who think that prejudice is black and white should not read this. Those who think innocents do not get killed in war should not read this. And while we're at it, decent human beings shouldn't read this either."
I'm waiting to see if somehow Hermione saves the day by killing everyone in creative anf gruesome ways in later chapters.
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| | Subject: | What's Love Got to Do With It? Everything! | | Time: | 08:18 am |
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| The greatest thing you'll ever learn
is just to love and be loved in return. —Eden Ahbez, “Nature Boy”
But that's just my view of things. What do you think?
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| | Subject: | OK, this is just stupid | | Time: | 12:48 pm |
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| Over on the Leaky Lounge (in Jim's thread pimping his 80,000 word opus on why HP sucks and JKR should write a new one) WalnutWandCarrier may just take the stupid cake with this gem:
When challenged he/she responds with this:
I guess something is not a choice unless someone actually says "I choose to do the following. I am doing all of this because I choose to." Choice can not be reasonably inferred in the HP fandom. Actions have no meaning unless that meaning is explicitly spelled out. edited for C&P fail
ETA: The twisted logic evidenced here reminds me of something I saw a Harmonian whining about once. I actually posted about it as a mouse in the JF-less sailor section of this board (In case anyone wants to go see). This is part of what I posted:
"(On Portkey) there is a discussion going on about how Neville got a hold of Gryffindor's sword when it should have been in Griphooks's posession. Many Harmonians seized upon this as an unforgivable plot-hole. Several masochistic non-Harmonians have explained that the sorting hat calls forth the sword for worthy Gryffindors in need, through, you know, magic. Several Harmonians are being deliberately obtuse in failing to understand this explanation (they're running in truly dizzying circles to avoid it, actually), and others are saying it should have been spelled out in the book (i.e. one poster said the narrative should have switced to Neville's POV for a few sentences to explain that he felt a thud on his head - yeah, that would be good writing). All of this, despite the fact that most readers capable of reasing above a third grade level did not need to have this explained in several paragraphs of exposition."
This current situation reminded me of it, because apparently it is bad writing if every little thing is not explicitly specified. Reasonable inferences can NOT be expected in good writing. | comments: 33 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
| | Subject: | BLAST FROM THE PAST | | Time: | 09:05 am | | Current Mood: | *sporfle!* |
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| Ok, so over on LJ, there is this little H/G Rec com, hpgw_otp, they gather all things H/G and rec it to its followers; from art, to meta discussions, to news on the up coming HP movies, even fanfic. Well in today's post, they link to crack_broom, another fic rec site and I think its name speaks for itself. Well there is an old, and particular fic that is rec'd in this post...
KNOCKERS by msscribe
... I'm kind of dying of the LOLS...
... for those a bit newer to the insanity of HP wank, this is original HP Ship Wankage. Msscribe is the infamous Sockpuppet Mistress, you can find her exploits detailed here and this fic is is about Ginny, developing over the summer between 5th and 6th years. Suffice to say, its rather wanky...especially for Harry LOL, | comments: 29 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
| | Subject: | Meta Part 2: Ron, Hermione, Jealousy, and Bad Cliches (Part 2) | | Time: | 04:33 am |
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| (Continued from previous post)
And yet somehow Ron is accepted by the fandom as being jealous—the word seems as synonymous with Ron as “clumsy” used to be with Neville. But we know Neville got past his clumsiness—and how!—so why is it so hard to accept that Ron could get past his jealousy?
Well, we know that fanits cannot see characters they’ve already decided they don’t like moving past character flaws (whether or not said character flaws actually exist or actually are character flaws is a whole other discussion), while characters they do like either move past them or never had them in the first place. This is no exception.
As for why he’s assumed to be jealous…
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| | Subject: | Meta Part 2: Ron, Hermione, Jealousy, and Bad Cliches (Part 1) | | Time: | 04:30 am |
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| (Thanks to dontgiveahoot for letting me bounce some ideas off of her.)
I’ve been in an argument with the author of a "realistic" Harry-in-Slytherin fic for a few days about his portrayal of Ron, and it got me thinking.
For all this talk of “misunderstood” characters, I would argue that the most misunderstood characters are not the Slytherins—as a large chunk of the fandom seems to think—but the Weasleys. Not a lot of people get the Weasleys (for lack of a better term)...
(Continued in next post) | comments: 59 delusional shippers poked or Poke a delusional shipper  |
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