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Latest Lissy/Lysette batshit from FAP:

From A.R.G.H. (C.S. Ginny/Harry) XLI: Quidditch, Snogging and uh, umm... snogging?:

"I tend to view Molly as Rowling answer to "$kank Daddy" from Croweland (Russell Crowe Fandom), namely that as soon as Molly latched onto how much Harry was worth (I knew there was a reason why Rowling kept HAMMERING that Harry was rich, but could not be bothered to spend it.) was so that we would get that Harry was the Weasley's Meal Ticket out of the Poor Farm and into the wealth and prestige Molly always dreamed of. $kank Daddy was determined that that was exactly what would happen as he started the Australian Children's Music Resource Center because "He was connected to Russell Crowe." Those from Australia, do you remember that? $kank Daddy did get a van out of it. I doubt if much more.

Once Molly started getting the word that poor little ORPHAN Harry was worth a TON, she was almost nice to Ronald until Harry was "officially" adopted. After that, so what, Harry was spending all his time with the Weasleys just like that Hermione girl. Hermione even dropped her own family completely so she could be a Full Time Weasley. Ronald was now the spare. By GoF, Molly was on the campaign trail to get Harry married off to her little princess (Like Robot Girl was good for anything else?) to the Golden Prince, soon to be Chosen One. Notice that in Crapilogue, the Weasleys are now in the position the Malfoys USED to be in, and the Malfoys are now the Weasleys of the New Order. Bot Girl could be as dumb as a brick, and is, as long as like $kank she lands that rich guy husband. The only differences between Bot-Girl and $kank are age and Bot doesn't bleach her hair green-white like $kank."

"If you see 27 Dresses, then you will see G/H in action, namely Tess, in order to land her sister's Boss, George, has sister, Jane, tell Tess everything about George so that she can be George's "Ideal." Jane is "in love" with her Boss, so knows all -- tells all. Of course, George would HAVE to fall for Tess, she appears to be everything George wants. Only the Tess, George thinks he is marrying, doesn't really exist. Tess took up all his interests and habits, not because she shared them in any way, quite the contrary, but she wanted to land a rich guy, and George was at hand.

Gin-Bot became Harry's "Ideal Girl," not because she actually was, but to land Harry. Gin-Bot didn't even like Quidditch when it was silly Ron and Bot's Brothers playing it, but when Harry played it, suddenly Gin-Bot had to as well. Even though she thought it was violent, and fell asleep at the World Cup, in OotP, Bot is the most Fab player besides Harry, himself. Suddenly, the only opinions Bot had were Harry's. We, the readers, do not know what Bot's opinions of ANYTHING actually are (besides hating Fleur) because Bot agrees to anything Harry says or does, even when it is stupid or down right dangerous. I'm sure she eats all his favorite things because HE likes them. Does his favorite things because HE likes them, and no one cares about the little Bot, not even Bot. It can almost make you feel sorry for the Bot, until you remember what a piece of work she really is, and then you are glad that "You should beware of what you beseech the Gods. They may be listening."

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And if Ginny was willing to break up with Dean for something as small as helping her through the portrait hole, then how the hell did she not break up with Harry for completely ignoring her while running off to save the world with Ron and Hermione? Furthermore, why didn't she break up with him for pulling the whole "it's too dangerous for you" spiel?
I'm sensing some severe imbalance.

But Harry is The Chosen One and, as far as Gin-Bot is concerned, richer than God, as Rowling keeps hammering on us readers, while Dean is a big NOBODY! Harry can give Gin-Bot all "The Golden Showers" he wants, and she will still come back for more. Gin-Bot is nothing more than Harry's stupid little groupie. See Penny Lane in Almost Famous, only Penny got her Wake Up Call when she nearly died because of Him, while Bot is too stupid and too fixated on The Prize = Money and Fame to notice what Harry does to her. Rather like Little J on Gossip Girl, Ya think."

"Rowling's writing is like the Winchester Mystery House, namely you have staircases that go nowhere, rooms that you can't get into, and other pointless junk. Mrs. Sara Winchester (Wife of the inventor of the Winchester Rifle) was told by a fortune teller that if she ever stopped building, that she would die. She had already lost her husband, so she was convinced that the ghosts of those killed by the Winchester Rifle where out to get her. She did live to be quite old. My point is that the Winchester Mystery House is full of rooms that are useless, doors and staircases that go nowhere, and is said to be haunted. It used to really look like it was haunted until they fixed it up, and gave it some paint. A lot of things in the Winchester Mystery House are completely pointless to all of us not Sara Winchester, and it turns out most of Harry Potter is completely pointless and goes nowhere unless you are J K Rowling. Rowling might have a purpose for all that junk, but we do not see it anymore than we see the point of doors that open to a sheer drop two floors. G/H just happens to be one of the most glaring examples of a staircase that dead ends in a ceiling or a door the opens to nowhere. Us readers wonder why Rowling bothered to build G/H at all, since it doesn't actually go anywhere.

Sara Winchester was viewed as being Mad when she was alive..."

"Actually, the Winchester Mystery House even lends itself to the post book interviews because unless a question is about one of Rowling's favorite Weasleys or the Master of Secrets and Lies AKA Dumbledore, Rowling STILL does not want to answer it. She thinks anything not involving one of her favorite Weasleys is the same as asking "What is Yeoman Janice Rand's Cabin Number?" in Star Trek, and I saw William Shatner (Mr. Wonderful) freak out over how stupid anyone was wanting to know that. Back then, Willie had trouble having any interest in anything past the end of his nose. If you ask Rowling about The Ronald, The Ronald's wife and kids or something else Rowling considers important, she'll answer. But Rowling doesn't seem to like the Wife and Womb Unit beyond being a Wife and Womb Unit because that was the sum total of what Rowling planned for her, or Hermione for that matter, because "if a girl doesn't marry and pop out kids, what good is she?" If you ask Rowling how many kids Gin-Bot popped out, she has that pat, but ask her anything about the Bot that has nothing to do with how she relates to Harry, and Rowling can't keep her answers straight from one interview to the next. It was kind of mean on her part to jump on that guy in the IoF for bring up her hard sell of Bot in the IoD, which she then forgot all about after telling Memerson. The ONLY power Bot had was having the Weasley Womb, that is the ONLY thing that made Gin-Bot special -- get over it. Before the last book came out, Rowling kept claiming that it would tie up all the loose ends and answer all the questions, but she meant about her favorite Weasleys and how many kids they had, anything else was like a staircase that went nowhere or a door that opened to a sheer drop, namely Rowling forgot she ever started building them and does not care to hear about that crap now. If she put a door in a wall, but when you open it, all you find is a brick wall behind it or better yet nothing, that is YOUR PROBLEM. Rowling forgot that door was ever there, and she doesn't want to hear about it now. If you were a Good Fan, then you wouldn't see that ****** door either because Rowling told you it wasn't really there.

BELIEVE!!!"

"I always thought that Gin-Bot got reactivated in OotP because Voldemort had gotten a new body the end of GoF, and that Bot and Voldemort were connected like Bot was a Sleeper Cell. Bot came alive when Voldy wasn't Vapormort anymore, even if it meant Bot was once again under his control. That would have made Bot more interesting, even if it would have pissed off Orange Crushie. Like I care. I have been hated for even posting that theory by Teh Church of the Holy One and Orange Crushie. (The "One time she asked me how to spell 'Orange' types.) I mean Rowling had to have a reason why Tom looked just like an older Harry, and Bot had a crush on both boys. I always thought Bot-Girl couldn't tell them apart. Anyhow, Rowling decided that EVERYONE was better and more useful than Bot-Girl because that Weasley Womb could not be risked in battle or anything, so Hermione, Lune, Cho and the other girls Harry knows do stuff for the cause. But Bot stays home so that she can pop out babies -- LOTS later.

"Another Celebutant with yapping purse mutt." Lucy Spiller Dirt"

From Can't Stand Molly:

"You know, generally, when a boy asks a girl to marry him, the parents of both have a meeting sometime before the wedding. They are going to be family soon -- No? So they should meet the parents of the other. Not Molly. Hermione disowns her parents and then obliterates any memories they had of her so that Hermione could be a Full-Time Weasley without their unconvenient presence to distract her from her full time job of taking care of The Ronald (Can Hermione COOK?!) and washing the Ronald's socks. Her inconvenient Muggle Parents were in the way of Hermione being accepted as one of Molly's own. They might have to actually visit Hermione's parents rather than Molly on some Holiday. And can you imagine Molly meeting Hermione's parents? They are Professional people. Their daughter wanting to marry a Weasley is almost like somebody finding out that their kid wanted to marry one of the "Riches" in The Riches, and they're GYPSIES! Oh my!

Molly is a County Bumpkin and Proud of It. Think Sh**kicker."

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Oh, I agree. Take how Ron and Hermione's wedding might have gone. I can just hear Molly's clucks of dismay if Ron and Hermione wanted -horrors- a Muggle style wedding. She'd be upset, all angry and weepy that it wasn't a good wizarding wedding at the Burrow, and then she'd be condescending. No matter what kind of wedding it was, she'd be all over it, too, just like Bill/Fleur's. The Grangers, like the Delacours, would be accessories at their daughter's wedding.

Why do you think Hermione had to send her PARENTS off to Australia with no memories of ever having a kid? Molly wanted no competition from the opposition, namely any in laws. Harry was perfect because he had money and fame and NO LIVING RELATIVES! On Holidays, there should be no question as to what family they should be spent with. There IS NO family outside the Burrow. That is why the Weasleys didn't associate with their neighbors -- because like a Cult, you are either IN or your OUT! Luna had her father, so was OUT! Having ANYONE come before Molly was like any of Voldemort's gang putting anyone before their allegiance to Voldemort! Anyone in their "Gang" has to be ALL theirs."

"I bet that when "Darling Jenny" went to the Ball with NEVILLE, Molly was not pleased.

Molly "You will MARRY Harry POTTER, I don't want to hear any complaints about it!"

"Jenny" "But, Mum, he doesn't even know I'm alive!"

Molly "Then do something to FIX IT! You WILL marry Harry Potter!"

I think Jenny got told to talk to Harry Potter no matter what, so at the beginning of OotP, she tried, even though Harry generally STILL ignored her. I think Molly used a spell to make Jenny SUDDENLY a Super Duper Quidditch player because nothing else was working. See something like Mulan, where a girl's only value was to marry well and produce lots of babies. Molly got the second one right, if not the first, so Jenny meant Molly had a second chance to get it right.

I wonder what Rowling would say, if she knew how much we all "loved" her wonderful Molly, a woman right out of Dickens, namely large, loud, mean and scary."

From Debate: Molly Weasley- Ideal Mother or Manipulative You-Know-What?:

"I view Molly Weasley as a shorter, chunkier version of Stella Mudd from Star Trek, and they both even have red hair.

And to quote Harry Mudd from I, Mudd:

quote:

"This, gentlemen, is a shrine, to the memory of my dear wife, Stella."
"Dead?"
"No, no, no – merely deserted. You see, gentlemen, behind every great man, there is a woman urging him on. And, so it was with my Stella. She urged me on into outer space– not that she meant to, actually, but with her confounded, eternal, continual nagging – (recovers) I think of her constantly; and every time I do, I go further out into space."
- Harry Mudd

"That's very interesting– you leave your wife, but then bring her along."
Dr. McCoy

"I had the androids construct an exact replica of Stella, so that I could gaze upon her... and rejoice in her absence. Gentlemen – attend: (clears his throat) Stella, dear."
Harry

(mechanically at first) "Har-court! Harcourt Fenton Mudd! Where have you been? What have you been up to? Nothing good, I'm sure – well, let me tell you, you lazy, good-for-nothing–"
Stella

"Shut up!"
Harry

(winding down) "– thing, thing, thing..."
Stella

(laughs) "Marvelous! I finally have the last word with her... and with you."
-Harry

Molly and, for that matter MiniMolly, harken back to their "Mother," Stella Mudd."

From Debate: Arthur Weasley, as a parent and as a person:

"Arthur and Molly are Good Cop, Bad Cop, when it comes to Parenting. Arthur is like Regina George's Mom in Mean Girls, who spend so much time trying to be "buds" with her daughter, that said daughter walks ALL OVER Mom. Regina even kicks her parents out of the biggest bed room -- theirs, and Mom is fine with it. She is busy serving REAL drinks to her daughter and her friends, and even catches her daughter making out with some boy in her room, and she is "Okay" with that, too.

When the boys took the car, he just wanted to know how it did, even though just having that stupid car could get him fired from work, and then where would his family be? I like how he got tickets for EVERYONE for the World Cup BUT Molly. Arthur wants to be the COOL DAD, so when he does bluster, EVERYONE ignores him. They all know that he is ALL bark and NO bite. As a parent, Arthur is JUST as USELESS as Regina's Mom."

From A.R.G.H. (C.S. Harry/Ginny) XLII: Lower Your Standards:

"I thought the last two books, in particular, became "The Ronald Weasley Show." The IMPORTANT Romance was Ronald's because he is the real star, like in Sherlock Holmes, where Watson might be telling the tale, but it is ABOUT Holmes. Ronald is the favorite main character, and is paired off with the main female character, and since Harry was just supposed to DIE on Command, he could be paired off with any random, nothing female character or no one. It is not like it matters. In the end, Harry's name might have been in the book titles, but he wasn't particularly important to the plot past dying on Dumbledore's Command. I mean so what if or who Harry got paired off with, any ship of his would be a SIDESHIP to any ship of Ronald's, anyway."

"Actually, Made of Honor is how H/Hr would have happened. Tom and Hannah are best friends, they do everything together but "date." Have for 10 years. Tom and Hannah call the other one about their date with someone else after it has ended, even. Then Hannah goes to Scotland for 6 weeks on a Buy for her employer, and she is suddenly GONE, and Tom is left adrift. He has no one to go to the Bakery with so they can eat each other's desserts. He has no one to go to the vintage store they like with, and suddenly he badly wants Hannah back because no one else is the same, or likes the same things they do. Tom plans to tell her his fellings when she comes back, even has flowers with him, only she comes back with a Scotsman, and they are to get MARRIED. Now Tom knows that the thought of Hannah moving across the pond is unbearable to him, and sets about breaking them up by stealing the Bride. He actually thought she would marry, and then stay in New York while her Husband lived in Scotland so nothing would REALLY change, and got FLOORED when she said she was moving permanently.

With G/H, Harry knows that if he says, "Heel," Gin-Bot is right there. And if he says "Get lost," she is off sulking in a corner until he calls her. Gin-Bot is the faithful DOG."

"I was watching the False Flag episode of Burn Notice this morning, and Robot Girl is Evelyn as Michael perceived her to be, namely the oh so helpless female that needs a Big Strong MAN to protect them. Males that have a "people saving thing" to start with, fall for it hook, line and sinker. Bot might be the Biatch from H@ll to everyone else, but to Harry she is the weak, helpless female that needs protecting. She feeds his ego. We see Bot the way Fiona saw Evelyn, namely that we think Harry is being played for the sucker he is, just like Michael was being played for a stupid sucker by Evelyn. ONLY Michael learned the hard way that Evelyn was playing him for a fool, while Rowling is offended that we do not think "Good Job, Ginny" for her games. Rowling is the real Master of Secrets and Lies."

"I was watching Ella Enchanted, yesterday, and I have another pair that G/H is like, namely Hattie/Char. The main difference is that when Hattie runs after Prince Char, claiming that he is her future husband to her silly sister Olive, Char runs to the hills. That is how he and Ella meet in the first place, he is running from Hattie, and Hattie had just sent Ella home through Ella's Obedience Curse so that Ella wouldn't mess up Hattie's future by ruining her first meeting with Char. Later, Hattie tells Char that she has his posters all over her walls and has his pictures, and would hang outside the castle so she could watch him turn on and off his lights at night. Char thinks Hattie is insane.

Harry, on the other hand, loves the idea of Gin-Bot sitting at his feet, rubbing his tired feet like a Good Girl. Harry is The Chosen One, and should be Worshipped by right. By HBP, Harry figures out that Gin-Bot has "grown a pair," and being a little wannabe Prince Edgar, you know, the one who killed his brother, blamed it on Ogres so that they can take the fall and be enslaved, and is going to kill Char so he can be King, feels he SHOULD be worshipped by all. Given what Rowling has said lately, I suspect she secretly thinks Edgar was in the right all along, and the rest of us are stupid to believe otherwise."

From HMS T.I.R.E IX (Can't Stand R/Hr): As Fake as Ron's Parseltonge

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No, you weren't the only person seriously bothered by that. Like others here I'm flummoxed as to why Rowling would put that in. Practicing deceit and duplicity towards your wife does NOT a good relationship or happy marriage make. It's an obvious fact furnished to us which proves that Ron never really matured, even though Rowling desperately put in several scenes in the very last book which had him amazingly show concern for house elves, think of using the Basilisk fangs and the like. But that didn't matter; the epilogue shows that, when it comes down to his personal needs, Ron Weasley doesn't bother about ethical standards or being honest with his wife.

Hey, Ronald was lying to the future wife and womb unit all the way through DH. Guys, you know this. Why does a guy suddenly do a 180 on beliefs that he has held near and dear all his life because some girl he knows believes the opposite? Because he wants to get in her "you know whats." Just like a girl suddenly pretending to like SPORTS because some guy she likes does. (Ginny) She wants a boyfriend to show off to her girl friends the same way the guy wants a conquest to brag about to his buddies. In Ronald's case, we KNOW that this is so because he is still going behind Hermione's back and telling Harry not to tell Hermione what he is really doing. It is like the Joe Nichols song where he claims he spent the whole afternoon in the hammock, even though he really spent it with the guys doing you know what. She, unlike Hermione, KNOWS he is lying because she already tossed that hammock in the attic. The problem with basing your relationship on LIES Ronald, it that eventually you tell so many that you can't keep track of them all.

See 27 Dresses for this one, where the sister pumps for information on her sister Jane's rich Boss, and suddenly becomes his "Dream Girl" because he IS Rich. It is NOT like she likes the same things or even eats the same things he does really. She is just trying to land the Rich Guy. Ronald was trying to land the only girl he knew, besides the "Easy" Lavender, who he thought he had a shot at. Lavender was Too Easy, even for him. Any girl THAT EASY is obviously not worth anything.

"Off the Hillbilly hook,
The Redneck chain..."

"I saw an ad for Baby Mama that kind of explains R/Hr perfectly,

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Angie Ostrowiski: It's like Tom and Jerry...
Kate Holbrook: But they hate each other...
Angie Ostrowiski: I don't know what movie you saw, but they LOVE each other.

Tom and Jerry, just like Ronald and Hermione, are always trying to kill each other, so it Must be Love.

RIGHT!"

"A common accusation of H/Hr is that it puts the two characters on pedestals above the rest of the characters. Is there a elitist dynamic along the lines of what the anti-H/Hr crowd describes in R/Hr?

The "Good Ship" is all about Ron, which would be great if the series was "Ronald Weasley and..." I would never have been here if it was, but there you go. Per Good Ship, H/Hr could never work because it would leave out Ron, even though R/Hr made Ronald more important and Harry less. One of the arguments FOR R/Hr is that Harry and Hermione would never have been friends if it wasn't for Ronald, and he is the only thing that holds them together. One of the counter arguments for that is that HARRY, not Ronald, in the role of peacemaker is the only thing that holds the Trio together by moderating between warring Ronald and Hermione. The problem with Ronald and Hermione's fights is that they only care that they win and the other one loses. They come off rather like Somalia, where there are 10 factions in an ongoing civil war, and each faction says they want peace, but only by winning and destroying the other 9 factions. I suspect that with Harry not in easy reach, the kids are expected to moderate their "parents'" arguments and keep whatever peace there is. Bad environment for children because they tend to think their parents are fighting BECAUSE of the children, but Rowling seems to like it."

From Do you hate OBHWF and why?

"OBHWF, AKA The Weasley Chronicles, do indicate how important each character is to Rowling, as someone post on another thread because the most important non-Weasley characters were married TO Weasleys, secondary characters were married to characters named in the books, but were not Weasleys like Neville, characters that you are NOT supposed to like, like Draco and Cho are married off to people not mentioned anywhere but in an interview to show everyone, particularly their fans, how unimportant they really are. Then there is Luna, who is the exception that proves the rule because I do not think Rowling thought far enough to consider Luna's future, which is why she is not in Crapilogue. Then people started acting like Luna was as important as a Weasley and asking about her husband and kids and WHY she was left off of Crapilogue, so Rowling had to think of something on the fly. I am actually surprised that she didn't pair off Luna with George or Charlie, just to get her in the Weasleys. I suppose it is to make those who think the Weasleys are the perfect family happy, but for those of us who see the Weasleys as ANYTHING BUT Ideal, well it is just another reason to dislike Rowling and her never ending mouth.

As someone said about Carpet Book (Now known as DH) OBHWF makes the Weasley Collective look just like the Borg, namely anyone who is anyone worth while, must be assimilated into the Weasley Collective. Only those with no value, like Draco or Cho, are not worth assimilating. In Crapilogue, the Weasleys are made to look JUST LIKE the Borg on Star Trek, only we are NOT supposed to like the Borg because they ARE the Bad Guys."

From A.R.G.H. (C.S. Harry/Ginny) XLIII: Shoelaces of LUV!:

"Well, Rowling likes to pretend that Gin-Bot is Laura Croft/Mrs. Smith to everyone else although she comes off as more a spoiled little self-centered BRAT (Rather like the Ronald) than Laura Croft, but Harry is her Lord and Master, so she should be tying his shoes laces, washing HARRY's undies same as Hermione should be washing the Ronald's, and SO ON. Remember, Molly trained both girls on what their proper place is -- behind their man, urging him onward. Of course, they could end up like Stella Mudd, who urged her man onward. She urged him into Outer Space with her continual NAGGING, and every time Harry Mudd thinks about his Stella, he goes further out into Outer Space. I suspect that, just like Harry Mudd and Arthur Weasley, Harry and the Ronald will spend a lot of time away from the home to avoid the continual, never ending, ETERNAL NAGGING.

As to the MAP, Harry having the right to moon over it is more important than any "Safety" it might provide Gin-Bot and those HE left behind. Bot should just learn to Do Without!"

"Generally, in Heroic Romance, the Romance is supposed to make the partners, each, more than they ever thought they could be before because they draw strength from their partner. That is how the Hero is SUPPOSED to be able to do the amazingly Heroic things he/she does. G/H is more like Bonnie and Clyde, where they got together and are nastier and more terrible together than either one of them ever were alone. The reader or viewer is rather glad when they are permanently stopped in a rather gruesome and bloody way. The car that Bonnie and Clyde died in still exists and has something like 130 bullet holes in it. But Bonnie and Clyde were Anti-Heroes, so they could act that way. Harry and Robot are SUPPOSED to be Heroes, so why do they act like a less lethal version of Bonnie and Clyde?

I think Rowling mixed up the Hero's Journey with the Anti-Hero because her writing draws far more from the Anti-Hero than the Hero. Rather than becoming more Noble and Heroic, her Hero becomes meaner and baser until it is hard to tell the difference between the Hero and the Villain."

"I NEVER liked Bot-Girl from the Train Station in PS. She reminded me way to much of someone I used to know a long time ago who was just like the Bot, only she was not just a liar, she was a CRAZY liar who dragged other people into her lies to hurt them. I got a phone call from my "friend's" sister after the sister and mom had found her diary. She had run off after convincing her then boyfriend to pull a gun on her mother. The diary claimed that she had been pregnant, and I had driven her to the hospital when she miscarried. It was news to me. It was also news to the supposed father of this supposed baby (not the boyfriend) who had NEVER even dated this girl once. The girl lived in her FantasyWorld 24/7, and anyone that this girl viewed as a threat in her Fantasy World was dealt with in Real Life, even if they had no idea what they might have wrong to deserve it. Rather like Ginny getting jealous of Fleur's little sister, who was only eleven, because in Ginny's World even a child was a possible threat. My friend was really out there and really NEEDED psychiatric help. Gin-Bot comes off as someone who was heading down the very same road. Gin-Bot lives in a Fantasy World, but, alas, her fantasies tend to intrude in those around her's reality.

I started disliking Stupid Harry by the time he arrived at Hogwarts with a broken at the beginning of HBP, and he only went down hill from there. I think Gin-Bot and Harry deserve each other because I do not think anyone else deserves to have either Bot or Harry inflicted on them."

"I think the problem is that the Costumer likes to dress Bonnie as Gin-Bot as dressing like a slightly female verson of Ronald. I mean, Gin-Bot was the only girl that I remember wearing trousers with her school uniform of ALL the girls in OotP. They dress Hermione as girly-girly with the infamous "pink hoodie," and the Bot as more manish than Carter on Stargate SG1 at her worse. And They had Carter in Motorcycle Leathers more than once. Maybe somebody on the production supports Ronald/Harry, and Boy!Bot/Harry is the closest they can get?"

"What I might even want to go see HPB for is when everybody and their brother are stating how beautiful and Hawt! Gin-Bot is because they just released a photo from an interview of Dan, Rupert and Bonnie, and somebody in costuming seems to think that Molly WANTED a seventh boy, and therefore dresses Gin-Bot as one. Without the long hair, you would really think she was a boy. Now, I used to know someone whose parents wanted a boy, and got her instead. They gave her a boy sounding name, and dressed her in boy clothes from the beginning, and boy was she ever messed up. This was in the old Trekkie Fandom, and you had to be really out there to stick out as WEIRD there."

From R.U.I.N.S. (C.S. DH) III: Who Owns Your Wand Today?:

"Like the whole business about House Elf Slavery. Ronald was NEVER upset about the institution of it, only that he, Ronald, did not own a House Elf. It is like the one man in the play "1776" said about it, "A poor man would rather protect the possiblity of becoming rich, than face the reality of being forever poor." The most important part about Crapilogue was that it proved that the Right People, namely the Weasleys, were now wealthy and on top of the Social Ladder, and the Wrong People, see Malfoys, were NOT! That is the whole series in a nut shell. The Institutions were never wrong, just the people in them. With the Right People running things, even Slavery is perfectly acceptable."

From R.U.I.N.S. (C.S. DH) IV: All Flaws Revealed on the Dark Lord Mental Broadcast:

"The thing about the House Elves is that Ronald and gang's view of them is just like the Aristocracy's view of Serfs. Namely that if Serfs didn't have anyone to serve, what would they do? How would they live? Who would take care of them? It is not like they are even capable of appreciating fine paintings, or brandy or furniture. They just think that all these things are merely fuel for fires for warmth. (From the Hornblower Mini Series, only the one who said it ended up meeting Madame Guillotine through those same lowly serfs.) Most people are happy to ignore Disposable People until they become one. Ronald's views on House Elves, Giants, Werewolves, Vampires, Centaurs and Muggles to name a few, would have gotten a rude awakening if somehow HE had ended up on his list of Undesirable -- Unacceptable People. The most important thing about Crapilogue is not that the Wizarding Institutions were biased, unfair and just plain wrong and should be CHANGED, but that the Right People, namely the Weasleys, were not running them. Wrong people like the Malfoys were. Slavery is perfectly fine, if you believe Rowling, just so long as the Slave Owners treat their slaves kindly. Serfs should want to be serfs because they know no better, and would die if left to their own devices."

From A.R.G.H. (C.S. Harry/Ginny) XLIV: H/G: Movies Are The New Canon:

"I thought after the IoD that Harry was dying in DH, and we would find out that Ronald had chronicled the whole thing as a "memorial" to his friend Harry. Yeah, I was expecting Ronald to be a "Doctor Watson," but that would mean that Ronald could care about anyone or anything that wasn't useful to the Ronald at the moment, which would explain why the hero's relationship was a sideline or afterthought of the sidekick's relationship. Tells you what I know. I think Rowling got so caught up in the whole "Will they or won't they" for Ronald and Hermione that it wasn't until HBP that she remembered that she hadn't bothered to do anything with her hero, so she figured Gin-Bot wasn't doing much and she's a girl, so pass her hero off on Robot and get back to what everyone (read Memerson, her pet fans) wanted anyway, namely MORE R/Hr. She spent seven books supposedly on developing R/Hr and a handful of chapters here and therein developing her Hero's romance, so obviously G/H is the sideship to the sidekick's romance. Now you get the Doctor Watson comparisons, namely the books might be about Holmes, but Watson wrote them, so he knows his relationships, but can only observe what he can of any Holmes might have had."

"quote:

Wasn't the first part of the "soulmates" quote was that they'd been through things together?

Yeah, Harry and Botty had been through a "journey" together, only problem is that it never made it out of Rowling's head, or it got "left on the cutting room flloor" when editing the books, like when they wanted to edit out the Troll "Battle" for space in PS, only this time it WAS left out because it never made it into the finished Product. Harry Potter turned out to not be a story about characters you like but a Product to be SOLD to the Masses. Harry Potter is to Story Telling what the Monkees were to the Beatles. I liked the Monkees when I first saw them, particulary Mickey, but I was like six at the time. The Monkees were a Corporate creation of what Corporate America thought an American Beatles could be like, but it was created in a Boardroom, not a garage, just like Harry Potter. All that ever mattered was Units Sold, not if it was any good or not."

"What kind of kinky roleplay scenarios do you think Harry and Ginny engage in when they're in the bedroom?

I think they should just cut to the chase, Harry is "Allan" the "well-hung" stable boy, and Ginny is the horse. Thank you Yates for that idea.

But Yates is responsible for Krull so what do you want? I saw part of an old interview of his about Krull resently, and from the way he was talking, you should think Krull was the greatest movie of our time. I guess everyone has their little fantasies."

From R.U.I.N.S. (C.S. DH) V: Providing Protection from Potter Paradigm Paralysis:

"quote:

And I can't fight this feeling anymore
I've forgotten what I started fighting for
It's time to bring this ship into the shore
And throw away the oars, forever

Cause I can't fight this feeling anymore
I've forgotten what I started fighting for
And if I have to crawl upon the floor
Come crushing through your door
Baby, I can't fight this feeling anymore.
REO Speedwagon

Granted it is the gag reflex from Carpet Book AKA Ronald Weasley and the Deathly Shallows as it will ALWAYS be to me. As a hero, Harry is only good for dying on command. Makes you kind of wish the happy crew from Death Race to roll through and kill everybody, starting with BOTH Voldy-Moldy and his Dork Eaters, AND the Weasleys and their silly "order."

I still, even now, swear that Rowling read "Damage Control," where Dumbledore had gone mad, and was letting all these people die every day so his great non-plan would come to pass, and LOVED LOVED LOVED it.. In 'Damage Control" Dumbledore thought that if Voldy made physical contact with Harry enough times (Like a whole lot of times) Voldy would die. Who cares if it could take years and thousands die, and Voldy might kill off Harry first so it wouldn't work, Dumbledore was going to sit on his hands and wait. I still think the best villian in the Harry Potter Series is the ultimately creepy Dumbledore because it turns out Dumbledore is Twisted Sister's Captain Howdy for reals.

quote:

OH, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOU ALL INSIDE MY DREAMY LITTLE WORLD
AND IT'S SO NICE TO BE WITH ALL YOU LOVELY LITTLE BOYS AND GIRLS
MAKE YOURSELVES COMFORTABLE
MY PLACE IS SO DEVINE
DON'T YOU THINK I'M WONDERFUL?
SAY YES! YOU'RE ON MY TIME

STAY AWAY
FROM CAPTAIN HOWDY
STAY AWAY
FROM CAPTAIN HOWDY

DON'T TRY TO LEAVE THE DOORS ARE LOCKED AND ONLY I HAVE GOT THE KEY
FORGET THE WINDOWS THEY'RE NAILED SHUT AND BOARDED UP
SO YOU CAN'T SEE
YOU'LL LOVE THE LIGHT SHOW
OH, I'M SURE YOU'LL THINK IT'S SWELL
WHEN THEY GO OFF
YOUR WELCOME TO MY LIVING HELL

"Horror Teria -- Twisted Sister

I view Dumbledore as the real monster in Harry Potter, and Voldy and Harry as his stupid creations that he wants to have fight and kill each other for Dumbledore's amusement. I doubt if that is what Rowling meant to write, but that is what got on the pages. That would seem to me to be a pretty big misstake, making one of the "heroes" come off as the scariest monster in the whole series. The King's Cross scene just closed the deal. Dumbledore - Captain Howdy, what's the diff?"

From C.S.T.A.R. V: Because We Always Knew She Was A Harpy!:

"You know, Gin-Bot does act like a friend I used to have, who went through the entire Cheerleading Squad (back when there were only female cheerleaders) before they figured out that they really didn't want to go all-the-way with any of them. It was not like he couldn't because he was a "blue-eyed Blonde Surfer type," but he said girls "smelled like fish." He still had women passing him their phone numbers all the time, until he disappeared soon after he got diagnosed with AIDS.

Up until HBP, Gin-Bot's crush on Harry was like tweeners crushing on Lance Bass because it was not like he would EVER be interested in any of them, so he is safe to crush on. Ever notice how tweeners tend to like guys who look more like pretty "girls" but without the boobs, namely non-masculine/safe? Robot is like them, namely chasing after a guy who is patentedly NOT interested. Then in HBP, Rowling finally figured that she Ooopsed because most fans (besides those dumb H/Hr shippers) didn't care any more who Harry was going to hook-up with because they only cared about RONALD! In DH, Rowling decided not to bother worring about G/H, since her fans didn't care in the first place, so not worth the effort."

From Can't Stand Extra Non-Book Information from JKR: Thread IV:

"quote:

So the idea that the Slytherins came back is one of the most annoying pieces of non-book information to come from Jo, to me personally.

I take it as Rowling is a Liar. I think she got the memo that Slytherin = Evil Death Eater is not popular like she must have thought it would be from Memerson, and tried to rewrite history. Even if it is NOT written on the page. It is NOT like Rowling rereads or checks her work. She is above that. Rather like Bushboy constantly trying to rewrite the Invasion of Iraq to make himself look good, rather than admit he was stupid to do it."

From Can't Stand Extra Non-Book Information from JKR: Thread V:

"Actually, what I Love about the whole Dumbledore is Gay but Asexual, so he is safe to have around kids, is that is rips off the likes of "Damage Control," among other FanFics where Dumbledore is gay, goes nuts and lots of people die horribly because Crazy Dumbledore is leading the resistance REALLY SLOWLY, and everyone thinks he knows what he is doing (Molly) no matter how insane he actually is or how many get killed that didn't need to because of Crazy Dumbledore. Dumbledore is crazy, so none of it is his fault.

Everyone who thinks Rowling mined FanFic to finish the last two books should probably get a cookie. And, since she did that, she now wants to be Umbridge, and close off all non-Ministry/Rowling approved fields of speculation with her interviews. Now that SHE is done writing the books, no non-Ministry Approved Thinking will be allowed. Who would have thought it? Rowling did write herself into Harry Potter, and she's Umbridge. Now THAT is funny!"

"If you read the sequel to "And Just Plain Wrong," namely "Damage Control" then you will have the basic Dumbledore plot for book seven. Namely, Dumbledore has gone mad "fighting" Voldemort, so he gets the notion that if Voldemort has physical contact with Harry long enough and often enough, it will kill him. Never mind that Voldemort will kill Harry LONG before that happens. So Dumbledore waits around letting everyone die horribly to see how long it will take his Stupid Plan to work. (Sounds like GW Bushboy doesn't?) I mean, the writer of "Damage Control" got Dumbledore Spot On. Namely he is so mad that he doesn't care who dies as long as he gets his way. They define Crazy as doing the same thing over and over again, thinking that you just might get a different result. I thought "And Just Plain Wrong" and "Damage Control" were the same basic plot as DH, only they had hard R ratings, and came out years before DH. I wonder who stole from who?"

October 24th, 2008

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