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Subject:Meta Part 2: Ron, Hermione, Jealousy, and Bad Cliches (Part 2)
Time:04:33 am
(Continued from previous post)

And yet somehow Ron is accepted by the fandom as being jealous—the word seems as synonymous with Ron as “clumsy” used to be with Neville. But we know Neville got past his clumsiness—and how!—so why is it so hard to accept that Ron could get past his jealousy?

Well, we know that fanits cannot see characters they’ve already decided they don’t like moving past character flaws (whether or not said character flaws actually exist or actually are character flaws is a whole other discussion), while characters they do like either move past them or never had them in the first place. This is no exception.

As for why he’s assumed to be jealous…

…simply put, it’s because Hermione says so.

Yes, she gets that Harry wasn’t interested in entering the tournament, but there’s more to it.

Harry asks her right out if Ron still thinks Harry entered the tournament himself, but she evades the question.

And then goes and makes matters worse:

“Oh Harry, isn’t it obvious?” Hermione said despairingly. “He’s jealous!”

Jealous?“ Harry said incredulously. “Jealous of what? He wants to make a prat of himself in front of the whole school, does he?”


“Look,” said Hermione patiently, “it’s always you who gets all the attention, you know it is. I know it’s not your fault,” she added quickly, seeing Harry open his mouth furiously. “I know you don’t ask for it… but—well—you know, Ron’s got all those brothers to compete against at home, and you’re his best friend, and you’re really famous—he’s always shunted to one side whenever people see you, and he puts up with it, and he never mentions it, but I suppose this is just one time too many…”

And this is the accepted explanation among the fandom. Because Hermione says it.

But Hermione has been wrong before. She thought Snape was the bad guy in PS—once she got past her initial refusal to even consider that a professor could be evil—and was at least considering the possibility that Harry was the Heir of Slytherin in CS. She also believed everything about Sirius being a murderer and Remus helping him in PA, and about Moody being Moody in GF. She also refused to consider the possibility that her cat might be after Ron’s rat until it very nearly cost her Ron’s friendship. Yes, she often grasps certain things more quickly than the other characters, but she’s not always right. (She doesn’t get Ron quite yet, for example.)

When we’re told the “obvious explanation” for Ron’s actions, it’s couched in terms that tell us we shouldn’t accept it at face value. Harry reacts “incredulously” to the assertion, Hermione uses the phrase “I suppose,” and the narrator makes it clear that Ron is upset by Harry’s fame “according to Hermione.”

So it’s fairly obvious that the explanation goes deeper than that.

XxXxX

I have mentioned how Ron does not come across as jealous in the first three books. And Harry doesn’t get a jealousy vibe from Ron, either—again, he reacts “incredulously” to Hermione’s assertion.

Hermione seems to think that “this is just one time too many”, but again, the evidence doesn’t add up.
This is especially true if we compare Ron’s actions to those of characters we know to be driven by jealousy.

Draco Malfoy, again, is one example—he is clearly extremely jealous of Harry’s fame for most of the series. As I’ve said, he only really wanted to befriend Harry once he knew who Harry was—for all the typists accuse Ron of wanting to get a bit of Harry’s fame by osmosis, it’s definitely what Draco seems to want. But Harry spurns him, and so Draco—spoiled brat that he is—acts like a total jackass, and does everything in his power to make Harry look bad at every opportunity. His attitude seems to be “Well, if I can’t enjoy your fame, then neither can you!”

Draco gets his chance to shine in HBP, when he’s the key component of Voldemort’s plan to invade the school and take Dumbledore out of the equation once and for all, part of Voldemort’s plan to seize control of wizarding Britain… and Draco buckles under the pressure, which probably leads him to hate Harry even more.

And then there’s Snape—Merlin’s baggy Y-fronts, Snape. We know Snape is driven by jealousy of James Potter—even Remus and Sirius figured that out, though they got the cause wrong. Snape’s hatred for James Potter ultimately endured because James got Lily and Snape didn’t. And it doesn’t help matters that Snape apparently takes everything personally and is quite prone to projection—he probably decided at one point that James didn’t really like Lily and was only going after her because Snape was interested in her.

Snape spent his school years openly experimenting with Dark magic and hanging out with pureblood fanatics, taking Lily’s friendship pretty much for granted, and trying to get James and his friends expelled—likely so he could have Lily to himself without James flirting with her. He pretty much wanted to have his cake and eat it too—keep a Muggleborn friend while openly dabbling in Dark magic. He then spent the rest of his life moping over the fact that he could only have one or the other—the choice he made bit him in the ass. And he was so unaware of Lily’s feelings that he was perfectly content for Harry and James to die so long as he had a chance to get Lily on the rebound. He took it for granted that she would remain a babe in the woods as far as the wizarding world was concerned, and assumed that she would come back to him no matter what kind of stupid crap he said or did. And he was so unwilling to let go of that picture that he assumed that once James was out of the picture, she’d revert to being the little girl Snape always saw her as. But he was wrong.

Snape is so screwed up by his jealousy that he continues to hate James years after his death—a hatred that extends to his son (Snape probably picked on Neville because he wanted Riddle to chose him instead, but I digress yet again). Snape apparently cannot stop himself from sneering at Harry’s every thought, accusing him of being a glory-hound at every turn. If Ron is experiencing jealousy toward Harry, he should be reacting to Harry’s good fortune the same way Draco and Snape do, at least to some degree. Draco even tries to get Harry in trouble over the Nimbus 2000, then goes whining to Daddy about how Harry has a better broom than Draco does.

Ron, meanwhile, has no reason to be jealous of Harry because Harry is all too happy to share whatever he has with Ron. It’s only fair—Ron happily shares his family with Harry. If anything, Ron is frustrated by his poverty—it means he can’t return the favor.

Since the day they met on the Express, Ron and Harry have been joined at the hip. Harry doesn’t want his fame and is embarrassed by his fortune, so he happily shares both. Ron would probably do the same if the situation were reversed.

Harry and Hermione need Ron. Again, he represents the everyman—or everywizard. He gets the Muggle-raised Harry and Hermione to think like wizards. We see that as early as PS, when he reminds Hermione that, hey, you know, you could just use MAGIC to light a fire! (It’s part of why her throwing his own words back at him in DH is so enjoyable—he’s had an effect on her.)

XxXxX

So what caused the rift between Ron and Harry in GF?

Well, it’s all there as background noise. JKR is a very clever writer—she can slip in emotional cues without having to bludgeon you over the head with them. You just have to pay attention.

Just look at the events between the beginning of the year and when Harry’s name comes out of the Goblet.

First, Ron—like most of Gryffindor—displays eagerness about getting into the Tournament. Fred and George are incensed by the age limit, and begin looking into ways to get past the Age Line. Ron is quite aware of this, and thinks it would be great to at least try and enter—he even asks Harry about it, if in a slightly roundabout fashion.

“Wonder what the tasks are going to be?” said Ron thoughtfully. “You know, I bet we could do them, Harry. We’ve done dangerous stuff before…”

But Harry doesn’t seem all that gung-ho about it—if anything, he seems to be looking forward to watching some other poor schmuck put his life on the line for a change. Granted, he does fantasize about it a little—hey, he’s fourteen. At that age, I’d be doing the same thing.

So that’s the context—Ron wants to get into the tournament, or rather he wants him and Harry to try to get in. Harry, meanwhile, seems uninterested. Again, one can hardly blame Harry—he’d be perfectly content to go a year without being in some kind of mortal peril. Fred, George, and Lee—friends as inseparable as Harry and Ron—make a pact to try to get in together so they can split the winnings, and Ron points this out. Real subtle, Ron.

But then, to everyone’s shock (well, except the fake Moody’s), Harry’s name comes flying out of the Goblet, right out of nowhere. Harry—and the reader—knows what this means, but honestly, what’s Ron supposed to think at this point? Harry knows that someone else must have done it—and so does the reader, because not only does the narrative make Harry’s feelings about the matter very clear, but it would have mentioned it if Harry had decided to enter. We also know that Harry would rather be left alone—if he wants to be famous, he wants it to be about his actual accomplishments, like Quidditch, not the fact that Voldemort got blown away because Lily Potter gave her life for her son.

Ron, meanwhile, must have gone back over the events leading up to that moment to try to make sense of it all. He might not have noticed Harry’s lack of enthusiasm, but he does know that Harry never proposed a plan for fooling the Goblet. Not to him, anyway. Not the way the twins and Lee did.

The only conclusion that would make sense to him is that Harry was planning to go for it all along, deliberately cutting Ron out of his plans. This is actually because Harry never actually came up with a plan to fool the Goblet, but Ron doesn’t know that.

So suddenly Harry must seem like a very different person to Ron. After all, Harry’s never left him out of anything before—not since they met on the Hogwarts Express. Ron has been in on all of Harry’s decisions, all of his thoughts or ideas, and most definitely all of his adventures over the past three years (even if Harry ultimately has to go it alone, due to Ron either being unconscious, trapped behind a cave-in, or recovering from a broken leg). Harry lies to Hermione left and right, mainly to get her to butt out, but he’s very rarely dishonest with Ron.

But there seems to be evidence that Harry’s ditched him, right there in Ron’s face.

Later canon seems to support this thought process. We know from DH that Ron’s been harboring insecurities about his friendship with Harry and Hermione for some time—he wonders if they don’t need him, if they’d get along fine without him, if Hermione doesn’t actually love Harry rather than him. The locket-Horcrux seems to work a lot like the Diary, and seized on those anxieties, buried deep down, and exacerbated them, shoving them right in Ron’s face. Yes, he left Harry and Hermione behind, but it makes sense if you think about it. Ron is a human being—could most of us handle that kind of torment? No wonder they were snapping at each other after sharing that thing for so long—the Horcrux yanks at your psyche like Sauron’s Ring.

Ron’s nursing an inferiority complex—not jealousy. (See the previous post.)

And Harry’s name coming out of the Goblet of Fire has the same effect as the locket-Horcrux—bringing anxieties that have probably lingered in the back of Ron’s mind for some time now right in his face. His fears of being inferior and not worth it compared to Harry are being brought to the fore, just like they were with the Horcrux. Is Ron feeling jealous of Harry because “everything happens to [him]”? I doubt it. Instead, Ron almost certainly feels deeply betrayed. And given what he and Harry have been through together, that’s gotta be a serious knife-twist to the heart. Ron’s also got to be wondering why Harry would leave him behind.

As he casts about for an explanation, only one seems to make sense: Draco and Snape have been right all along; Harry really does seek the spotlight. The proof’s right under his nose. And the events that follow seem to bear that out.

Ron refuses to participate in the festivities in Gryffindor Tower and instead goes up to bed, but then Harry comes upstairs, wrapped in a Gryffindor banner, convincing Ron that Harry must have been a part of the festivities—Ron might even have known how long Harry was down there from the way the crowd reacted when he came through the portrait hole. This could only confirm his suspicions that Harry really does enjoy the spotlight.

It takes Harry about a half-hour to get to the stairs. He gets into his room and finds Ron lying on the bed, still fully dressed.

“Where’ve you been?” Harry said.

“Oh, hello,” said Ron.

He was grinning, but it was a very odd, strained sort of grin. Harry suddenly became aware that he was still wearing the scarlet Gryffindor banner that Lee had tied around him. He hastened to take it off, but it was knotted very tightly. Ron lay on the bed without moving, watching Harry struggle to remove it.

“So,” he said, when Harry had finally removed the banner and thrown it into a corner. “Congratulations.”

“What d’you mean, congratulations?” said Harry, staring at Ron. There was definitely something wrong with the way Ron was smiling: It was more like a grimace.


Ron is trying—and failing—to hide his emotions here. Harry doesn’t seem to understand it, but the narration does a pretty good job of pointing it out.

“Well… no one else got across the Age Line,” said Ron. “Not even Fred and George. What did you use—the Invisibility Cloak?”

“The Invisibility Cloak wouldn’t have got me over that line,” said Harry slowly.


“Oh right,” said Ron. “I thought you might’ve told me if it was the cloak... because it would’ve covered both of us, wouldn’t it? But you found another way, did you?”


Good grief, Ron might as well be screaming it—”Why didn’t you bring me along?”

But Harry doesn’t get this—what he hears is Ron calling him a liar.

“Listen,” said Harry, “I didn’t put my name in that goblet. Someone else must’ve done it.”

Ron raised his eyebrows.


“What would they do that for?”


“I dunno,” said Harry. He felt it would sound very melodramatic to say, “To kill me.”


It probably would have been, but I can’t help thinking it would have spared them both a lot of trouble if Harry had—but then we’d have much shorter books if Harry were more prone to thinking things through.

But I digress yet again.

Ron’s eyebrows rise “so high that they were in danger of disappearing into his hair.” The impression I get is that Ron thinks Harry’s still hiding something.

He even remarks on Harry’s apparent secret plan for fooling the Goblet and how he’d left Ron out of them.

“It’s okay, you know, you can tell me the truth,” he said. “If you don’t want everyone else to know, fine, but I don’t know why you’re bothering to lie, you didn’t get into trouble for it, did you? That friend of the Fat Lady’s, that Violet, she’s already told us all Dumbledore’s letting you enter. A thousand Galleons prize money, eh? And you don’t have to do end-of-year tests either…”

Ron is being extremely subtle here (for a teenage boy, anyway), trying to get Harry to talk about it, but Harry (also a teenage boy) doesn’t catch on—again, Harry thinks only that Ron is calling him a liar.

“I didn’t put my name in that goblet!” said Harry, starting to feel angry.

“Yeah, okay,” said Ron, in exactly the same skeptical tone as Cedric. “Only you said this morning you’d have done it last night, and no one would’ve seen you… I’m not stupid, you know.”


“You’re doing a really good impression of it,” Harry snapped.


*sigh* An unnecessary cheap shot. But, again, teenage boys.

“Yeah?” said Ron, and there was no trace of a grin, forced or otherwise, on his face now.

Ron comes out of this with the impression that Harry is still leaving Ron out of the plans. He won’t even tell Ron how he did it. Again, Harry knows otherwise—and so do we readers, since nearly the entire story is told from inside Harry's head—but not Ron.

Also, Harry didn’t make the offer Fred, George, and Lee did to each other—to split the winnings. So Ron thinks that Harry isn’t only in it for the fame, but the money as well.

Hence the Parthian shot: “You want to get to bed, Harry. I expect you’ll need to be up early tomorrow for a photo-call or something.” This remark, I think, is where most of the Jealous!Ron kuso comes from.

But here’s the thing—Ron doesn’t seem to be revealing jealousy here—he’s striking out, going right for the jugular.

This isn’t jealousy, this is betrayal.

Harry has hurt him a great deal, and when Ron tries to hint as to why he’s hurt, Harry doesn’t even try to catch on. So what seems like the obvious conclusion is that Harry doesn’t even care how Ron feels. The accusation of being a glory-hound was meant to hurt Harry back, and to let Harry know that Ron was on to him and wasn’t impressed.

Imagine if Ron and Harry had done what Ron had hoped they’d do—that they’d figured out a way to fool the Goblet together, promised to split the winnings, then did it, and the Goblet still spat out Harry’s name. Do you think that Ron wouldn’t have reacted with happiness, cheering Harry on? We’re talking about the same Ron, right? The same Ron we saw enthusing over Harry’s place on the Quidditch team and two top-of-the-line broomsticks?

Seriously, if prior canon is any indication, Ron would probably already be planning what he was going to do with his half of the prize—because he’d be sure that with Harry, it would be in the bag. And with Harry, it probably would be.

Even if they’d tried together and failed, it would have been a fun adventure. At least they would have tried.

It’s fairly apparent that Ron isn’t jealous—he’s deeply, deeply hurt and trying not to show it. He thinks Harry has finally decided he doesn’t need Ron anymore, and it hurts him deep. But Ron is a fourteen-year-old boy (well, rising fifteen), and isn’t going to articulate this in so many words. JKR seems to understand the male mind better than a lot of female writers, and she knows that fourteen-year-old boys do not discuss their feelings candidly—hell, most men don’t. You have to read between the lines quite a bit.

So when Ron comes down from the dormitory the next morning, he probably makes some snide comment to Hermione about how Harry was “catching up on his beauty rest” or that “champions don’t interact with lowlifes like me.” Hermione’s mind leaps to what is—to her—the “obvious” explanation, and never even stops to consider an alternative. This gives Harry a handy explanation for Ron’s actions. It’s obvious that Harry didn’t read jealousy into Ron’s reaction, but since Hermione is usually right…

The very idea of Ron being jealous really ticks Harry off—Ron knows damn well that Harry doesn’t enjoy being famous, that he’d give it all back in a heartbeat for eighteen years of mundanity with his parents. Or at least he should know it.

And so Ron seems like a very different person to Harry all of a sudden. His disgust over Ron’s apparent childishness prevents him from wanting to deal with the problem directly.

And thus Hermione—who cannot stop herself from butting into matters that don’t concern her—*coughSPEWcough*—sets Harry off, and inadvertently widens the rift, which should have been resolved right away, to the point where it takes several months to heal. And she tells Harry that she’s not talking to Ron—it’s Harry’s problem as far as she’s concerned. She doesn’t even try to disabuse Ron of his notion that Harry didn’t put his name in the Goblet.

And makes things a whole lot worse than they had to be.

“Emotional depth of a teaspoon”, my swinging left… ahem.

I’m pretty sure JKR was setting up a red herring with Hermione’s assertions—and trying to show that Hermione isn’t always right. After all, as previously mentioned, we see how Ron acts when he’s jealous—and in the SAME BOOK. It’s as if JKR was trying to tell us “this isn’t what it looks like, folks!” She’s done it before—making Snape seem to be the villain in PS, making it look like Percy was up to something in CS (granted, he was, but it wasn’t what anyone thought), and painting Sirius as a psychotic murderer for most of PA. You could argue that there are red herrings in every one of the books—and PS alone is an armory of Chekhov’s Guns.

But I digress yet again.

XxXxX

As noted above, we see Ron react with jealousy in this same book, so it’s telling that Ron reacts completely differently here.

When Ron was jealous of Krum, he was very adamant about it.

But when Ron is supposedly jealous of Harry, he gives him the silent treatment. This seems to be done to punish Harry—Harry seems to think this is the case—but more often when you give someone the silent treatment, you’re communicating that they’ve hurt you very badly, that you’re worried that if you interact with them again you’ll be hurt again, and that the ball’s in their court.

And in this case, the ball is quite clearly in Harry’s court.

We’ve seen in canon that characters motivated by jealousy usually react with spite. But we don’t see that with Ron.

Ron passed on some opportunities to stick it to Harry but good. The Slytherins (and, pre-First Task, a lot of the other students) take every opportunity to take shots at Harry—Draco shows his talent for projection by calling Harry a fame-hound and teasing him about the fact that he might not come out of this alive. Ron is also there, but says nothing.

When Draco shows off the “Potter Stinks” badges, the narrator takes a moment to point out that Ron is staying out of it: “Ron was standing against the wall with Dean and Seamus. He wasn’t laughing, but he wasn’t sticking up for Harry either.”

Ron could have laughed along with Draco after the “I See No Difference” incident (which is Snape at his most unfair and biased, literally unable to see his students’ wrongdoings and going out of his way to take a shot at Hermione). Instead Ron comes to Hermione’s defense, cursing out Snape right along with Harry (and Snape again gets his jollies out of provoking people he doesn’t like—and is apparently looking forward to poisoning Harry in the middle of class, figuring Harry could never manage a decent potion, so Snape would have to bail him out, not only humiliating him but possibly even canceling out the life-debt he owes James, but that’s another essay).

When Colin came into Potions to tell Snape that Harry was wanted for a photo shoot, Ron could have hit Harry with a cheap shot, but instead he’s “staring determinedly at the ceiling.“ Perfect opportunity—and in front of people who already hate Harry, no less—and Ron passes it up.

XxXxX

Ron finally speaks to Harry after the photo shoot.

“You’ve had an owl,” said Ron brusquely the moment [Harry] walked in. He was pointing at Harry’s pillow. The school barn owl was waiting for him there.

“Oh—right,” said Harry.


“And we’ve got to do our detentions tomorrow night, Snape’s dungeon,” said Ron.

He then walked straight out of the room, not looking at Harry.

Harry passes on the opportunity to unload on Ron—unsure whether he wants to talk to him or hit him—because he knows the letter is from Sirius. The next night, after their detentions, they both pass on the opportunity to either talk things out or have it out once and for all.

Ron hadn’t spoken to him at all since he had told him about Snape’s detentions. Harry had half hoped they would make things up during the two hours they were forced to pickle rats’ brains in Snape’s dungeon, but that had been the day Rita’s article had appeared, which seemed to have confirmed Ron’s belief that Harry was really enjoying all the attention.

But Harry has no way of knowing what Ron thought of the article.

And we see that Ron had still more opportunities to stick it to Harry good—it’s not like the Slytherins are lacking for ammunition, thanks to Skeeter. But Ron never brings up the article, or its contents.

It doesn’t help that Hermione is actually trying to get involved now—if she hadn’t in the first place, it wouldn’t have gotten to that point. She badgers Harry in her usual style—and, in his usual style, he blocks her out. I’d argue that this is one of Hermione’s main problems—she doesn’t realize that with Harry, badgering him to do something makes him less inclined to do it, not more.

But Harry does admit—if only to himself, after once again lying to Hermione to get her off his case—that he misses Ron. He misses the laughter Ron brings to the table. He doesn’t enjoy being alone with Hermione—spending all day in the library with your nose in a book will never be his idea of a good time.

And this brings us to the scene where everything changes.

XxXxX

After going to see the dragons, Harry speaks briefly with Sirius in the fireplace.

Say whatever you want about Sirius, but if nothing else, he has good listening skills. He does what Hermione doesn’t—instead of badgering Harry and giving orders, he sits back and listens. Hermione talks about SPEW; Sirius says, seriously (heh), “Never mind me, how are you?”

This is enough to get Harry talking. And Sirius listens. (Ginny does the same thing in the famous “chocolate in the library” scene in OP, but that too is another essay.)

After a bit of exposition about Karkaroff and Bertha Jorkins, Sirius—knowing he hasn’t got much time—finally gets around to the point.

“Right—these dragons,” said Sirius, speaking very quickly now. “There’s a way, Harry. Don’t be tempted to try a Stunning Spell—dragons are strong and too powerfully magical to be knocked out by a single Stunner, you need about half a dozen wizards at a time to overcome a dragon—”

“Yeah, I know, I just saw,” said Harry.


“But you can do it alone,” said Sirius. “There is a way, and a simple spell’s all you need. Just—”


Then Harry hears someone coming and cuts him off. Sirius cuts the connection.

Panicked, Harry turns…

It was Ron. Dressed in his maroon paisley pajamas, Ron stopped dead facing Harry across the room, and looked around.

Interesting. JKR could have had anyone interrupt the call—any other boy or girl in Gryffindor Tower—but she chose to have Ron do it. There has to be a reason.

And this is when Ron has been giving Harry the silent treatment for some time.

“Who were you talking to?” [Ron] said.

“What’s that got to do with you?” Harry snarled. “What are you doing down here at this time of night?”


Ron could easily have just gone back upstairs when Harry yelled at him, but here we get the first indication that it isn’t all it seems to be.

“I just wondered where you—” Ron broke off, shrugging. “Nothing. I’m going back to bed.”

Ron almost admits that he went downstairs because he wanted to know where Harry was, but cuts himself off. This is understandable—it’s one in the morning, after all, and Harry isn’t in bed. Ron might even have been waiting for him. You don’t worry about someone if you’re trying to punish them.

“Just thought you’d come nosing around, did you?” Harry shouted. He knew that Ron had no idea what he’d walked in on, knew he hadn’t done it on purpose, but he didn’t care—at this moment he hated everything about Ron, right down to the several inches of bare ankle showing beneath his pajama trousers.

Harry is already angry enough at Ron, but now Ron has stopped Sirius from giving Harry hints about how to deal with the dragon.

But Ron gets the wrong message. This whole thing seems to fit with his belief that Harry’s ditched him and is still locking him out.

So Ron gets defensive and lobs off another Parthian shot.

“Sorry about that,” said Ron, his face reddening with anger. “Should’ve realized you didn’t want to be disturbed. I’ll let you go on practicing for your next interview in peace.”

Harry reacts with a Heroic Spaz Attack.

Harry seized one of the POTTER REALLY STINKS badges off the table and chucked it, as hard as he could, across the room. It hit Ron in the forehead and bounced off.

“There you go,” Harry said. “Something for you to wear on Tuesday. You might even have a scar now, if you’re lucky… That’s what you want, isn’t it?”


He strode across the room toward the stairs; he half expected Ron to stop him, he would even have liked Ron to throw a punch at him, but Ron just stood there in his too-small pajamas, and Harry, having stormed upstairs, lay awake in bed fuming for a long time afterward and didn’t hear him come up to bed.


Think about this. Harry unloads on Ron, vents a lot of wrath Ron’s way, and how does Ron react?

He just stands there and takes it.

Ron. Hot-tempered, easily-provoked, quintessential-Gryffindor, almost-stereotypical-redhead Ronald Bilius Weasley just stands there.

Now that says something.

If this was as simple as jealousy, Ron would have instantly denied it. And then we’d have a Yule Brawl on our hands, with Harry and Ron exchanging insults and screaming at each other. But what we get is something very different.

Harry has just accused Ron of wanting to be famous, too. Of wanting to be him.

Think about that for a minute. What must Ron have thought of that? It was the first time Harry voiced any suspicions about Ron’s motives.

Ron’s reaction to this bit of vindictiveness reads a lot like shock. Again, Harry’s earlier words seem to validate Ron’s “I’ve ditched you” theory, because he was flat-out telling Ron to butt out. But Harry’s accusation of jealousy—that “you want to be just like me, right?” shot—would have come entirely out of nowhere from Ron’s perspective, leaving him too stunned to react.

He’s bowled over. You can almost hear Ron’s thoughts: He just said… he thinks… WHAT?!

Harry had to go right by Ron to get to the dorms, and, as is noted in the narrative, Ron could easily have given Harry a good punch—or at least a sharp retort. But Ron once again passed on the opportunity to lash out at Harry, despite being flat-out attacked.

This is perfectly in character.

Why?

Because—guess what, fanits? Ron is not vindictive! It just isn’t in his character, and that’s often overlooked.

Vindictiveness is in the same category as jealousy, and is usually a result of it. Snape and Draco are both jealous and vindictive, as we see on a regular basis—Snape especially so; he goes out of his way to snipe at Harry at every opportunity. Draco does the same.

It’s unlikely that Ron would indulge in jealousy yet not in vindictiveness. And, as noted, it’s not like Ron lacked for opportunities to do so.

The ice seems to start to melt after this incident, at least on Ron’s end. Ron seems to have gotten the message, or at least he’s trying to extend an olive branch. Ron even nearly laughs at Harry’s reply to one of Trelawney’s predictions—Trelawney predicts that “people born in July are in great danger of sudden, violent deaths”, to which Harry responds “just as long as it’s not drawn-out. I don’t want to suffer.” Ron usually laughs at this kind of gallows humor (Hermione, meanwhile, who was probably at the library the day they handed out senses of humor, tends to snap “that’s not funny”)—heck, Ron even tries to catch Harry’s eye. But Harry is still pissed off. Now Harry is giving Ron the silent treatment, which means the ball’s in Ron’s court now.

Ron seems to have altered his perspective on the situation slowly, not just suddenly during the First Task. Hermione must have told Ron that Harry thought someone was trying to kill him, and given the fact that when Harry doesn’t look for trouble, trouble apparently gets lonely and goes to find him, Ron must have at least put it in the back of his mind as a possibility. He might even have been entertaining the idea that Harry was telling the truth. But if he was, why did Harry refuse to speak to him, too? Why didn’t Harry try further to persuade him?

I’m guessing that by the time Harry tackled the dragon, Ron was still hurting—but for a different reason.
While the general assumption in the fandom is that Ron finally figured out that Harry wouldn’t put himself at risk of being killed by a dragon on purpose, I doubt it. It was articulated from the very beginning that the tournament was deadly dangerous—that it hadn’t been held in centuries for that very reason. It was why Dumbledore put that Age Line in place—only seventh-years and a few sixth-years (like Cedric) would have been able to compete, since they would have had the most knowledge of magic of all the students.

No, Ron must have known from the start that Harry would be putting himself in terrible danger if he were to enter. Hell, that’s part of why Ron was so put out—why else would Harry deliberately put himself in harm’s way if he didn’t stand to gain from it? Why else would anyone?

However, even if no one were trying to kill Harry, he’d still be tackling dragons. So it must be something else about the First Task that convinced Ron to make the first move toward reconciliation.

Ron seems to have gotten the message that Harry didn’t put his name in the Goblet. But more importantly, Ron seems to have realized he could lose Harry—lose him for good--and the hurt of that blows the current hurt he’s feeling completely out of the water. It wasn’t worth it anymore for Ron to not be the best friend of Harry Potter anymore.

It was as though the last few weeks had never happened—as though Harry were meeting Ron for the first time, right after he'd been made champion.

"Caught on, have you?" said Harry coldly. "Took you long enough."


Hermione stood nervously between them, looking from one to the other. Ron opened his mouth uncertainly. Harry knew Ron was about to apologize and suddenly he found he didn't need to hear it.


"It's okay," he said, before Ron could get the words out. "Forget it."


"No," said Ron, "I shouldn't've—”


"Forget it," Harry said.


Ron grinned nervously at him, and Harry grinned back.


Hermione burst into tears.


"There's nothing to cry about!" Harry told her, bewildered.


"You two are so stupid!" she shouted, stamping her foot on the ground, tears splashing down her front. Then, before either of them could stop her, she had given both of them a hug and dashed away, now positively howling.


"Barking mad," said Ron, shaking his head. "Harry, c'mon, they'll be putting up your scores…"


Picking up the golden egg and his Firebolt, feeling more elated than he would have believed possible an hour ago, Harry ducked out of the tent, Ron by his side, talking fast.


Perfectly in character, and a great scene to boot. (Though the way they did it in the movie is pretty good; they could have gone without Kloves' tendency to want to keep Hermione from even appearing less than perfect, bu I digress again.)

It’s a credit to Ron that he went ahead and at least tried to apologize. And it’s a credit to Harry that when he saw that Ron was sincere, he forgave him at once.

All three of them—Harry, Ron, and Hermione—made honest mistakes. Because they’re flawed human beings, which makes them more interesting characters. Hermione is socially stunted and figures she’s always right—almost especially when she isn’t. Harry is also stunted in a lot of ways. Ron and Harry are teenage boys—it’s not like they were going to sit down and explain their feelings to each other or anything.
I’m sure it helped Ron’s feelings significantly to find out that he’s the person Harry would miss most.

XxXxX

But, unfortunately, Ron’s insecurities didn’t go away, though he was finally able to confront them in DH when he killed the locket Horcrux.

“No!” said Ron. “No, don’t open it! I’m serious!”

“Why not?” asked Harry. “Let’s get rid of the damn thing, it’s been months—”


“Because that thing’s bad for me!” said Ron, backing away from the locket on the rock. “I can’t handle it! I’m not making excuses, Harry, for what I was like, but it affects me worse than it affected you and Hermione, it made me think stuff—stuff I was thinking anyway, but it made everything worse. I can’t explain it, and then I’d take it off and I’d get my head on straight again, and then I’d have to put the effing thing back on—I can’t do it, Harry!”


He had backed away, the sword dragging at his side, shaking his head.


“You can do it,” said Harry. “You can! You’ve just got the sword, I know it’s supposed to be you who uses it. Please, just get rid of it, Ron.”


The sound of his name seemed to act like a stimulant. Ron swallowed, then, still breathing hard through his long nose, moved back toward the rock.


“Tell me when,” he croaked.


JKR seems to have had numerous purposes for this scene—first is the obvious, that the locket needs to be destroyed. Second, that Ron is finally getting his own bit of the glory.

But my belief is that this scene was really written for the fans—the Ron fans and the Ron-haters alike. For us fans, it’s a great moment. For the haters, it’s arguably a Take That, showing that their criticism of Ron is invalid.

Kind of telling that the Horcrux practically spouts Harmonian talking points. But Ron used the sword and killed the Horcrux, and Harry finally stated flat-out that he didn’t even think of Hermione the way Ron worried Harry might. Harry helped Ron past it.

The sword clanged as Ron dropped it. He had sunk to his knees, his head in his arms. He was shaking, but not, Harry realized, from cold. Harry crammed the broken locket into his pocket, knelt down beside Ron, and placed a hand cautiously on his shoulder. He took it as a good sign that Ron did not throw it off.

“After you left,” he said in a low voice, grateful for the fact that Ron’s face was hidden, “she cried for a week. Probably longer, only she didn’t want me to see. There were loads of nights when we never even spoke to each other. With you gone…”


He could not finish; it was only now that Ron was here again that Harry fully realized how much his absence had cost them.


“She’s like my sister,” he went on. “I love her like a sister and I reckon she feels the same way about me. It’s always been like that, I thought you knew.”


Ron did not respond, but turned his face away from Harry and wiped his nose on his sleeve. Harry got to his feet again and walked to where Ron’s enormous rucksack lay yards away, discarded as Ron had run toward the pool to save Harry from drowning. He hoisted it onto his own back and walked back to Ron, who clambered to his feet as Harry approached, eyes bloodshot but otherwise composed.


“I’m sorry,” he said in a thick voice. “I’m sorry I left. I know I was a—a—”


He looked around at the darkness, as if hoping a bad enough word would swoop down upon him and claim him.


“You’ve sort of made up for it tonight,” said Harry. “Getting the sword. Finishing off the Horcrux. Saving my life.”


“That makes me sound a lot cooler than I was,” Ron mumbled.


“Stuff like that always sounds cooler than it really was,” said Harry. “I’ve been trying to tell you that for years.”


Simultaneously they walked forward and hugged, Harry gripping the still-sopping back of Ron’s jacket.


Great
moment—I hope they do it justice in the movie.

I imagine Ron was able to banish those demons once and for all after that.

And in the end, Ron managed to outshine all his brothers after all.
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-02 04:37 pm (UTC)
I got that impression, too--he was more hurt that Harry didn't tell him he was submitting his name.

Snape spent his school years openly experimenting with Dark magic and hanging out with pureblood fanatics, taking Lily’s friendship pretty much for granted, and trying to get James and his friends expelled—likely so he could have Lily to himself without James flirting with her. He pretty much wanted to have his cake and eat it too—keep a Muggleborn friend while openly dabbling in Dark magic. He then spent the rest of his life moping over the fact that he could only have one or the other—the choice he made bit him in the ass. And he was so unaware of Lily’s feelings that he was perfectly content for Harry and James to die so long as he had a chance to get Lily on the rebound. He took it for granted that she would remain a babe in the woods as far as the wizarding world was concerned, and assumed that she would come back to him no matter what kind of stupid crap he said or did. And he was so unwilling to let go of that picture that he assumed that once James was out of the picture, she’d revert to being the little girl Snape always saw her as.

LOVE IT. A-friggin-men.

As for why Snape hates Neville, I really think he just hates all Gryffindors. Why? They took Lily away from him. If she'd been in Slytherin, maybe they could have stayed friends (accoreding to his twisted thinking, anyway).
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:42 pm (UTC)
I don't think that the Snape-hates-all-Gryffindors thing sufficiently explains his constantly singling Neville out. Again, my theory is essentially that Snape had figured out that the Chosen One would be either Harry or Neville, and spent the rest of his life wishing that Riddle had gone after the Longbottoms instead. And he took it out on Neville like he took out his issues with James on Harry.
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-02 04:46 pm (UTC)
It's possible. He was SO mean to Neville--that part with Trevor makes me so sad. :(
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:50 pm (UTC)
WORD CUBED.
He was going to poison a kid's pet in front of the entire class. If a teacher pulled that crap at any of the schools I've been in, that would have been more than enough to get his ass hauled in front of the school board, reprimanded, then fired with a permanent black mark on his reputation.

And then he PUNISHES HERMIONE FOR SAVING THE TOAD'S LIFE.

That scene was Snape at his most sadistic--right up there with his clearly looking forward to poisoning Harry just so he can watch him writhe around on the floor a bit before saving him... and giving him a zero on the assignment. Snape may have done the right thing in the end, but he was a seriously messed-up individual.

I can't help wondering if the fandom would take that scene so much in stride if Trevor had been a puppy.
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-02 04:54 pm (UTC)
If Trevor had been a puppy, definitely, but I also think that Snapefen tend to be something of intellectual snobs. They think of James as the dumb jock and Snape as the brilliant, misunderstood nerd. Neville is shown as not very smart until the later books when we learn he was just scared of Snape, unless you figured it out yourself. So I think a lot of Snapefen are like, well, it's his own fault his potion sucked; Snape was just being a good teacher. Twisted logic, of course.
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:59 pm (UTC)
A good teacher would have pointed out what Neville did wrong and/or showed him how to fix it. It's not like he can't spare five or ten minutes--he doesn't seem to do more than either sit at his desk and glower or breathe down the necks of students he doesn't like.
Say whatever you want about Slughorn, but at least he taught the damn class. He didn't just toss you into the deep end and mock you if you weren't swimming right away, like Snape does.
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-02 05:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. The fact that Harry and Neville did well when not around Snape says it all. I like Slughorn, actually--he shows me what Slytherin is more meant to be as opposed to the Voldemort Jugend.

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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 05:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah, exactly.
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2009-05-04 03:38 pm (UTC)
One of the other things that annoys me is that Snapefen haul out that bit about Umbridge noting the potions classes tend to be ahead of the curve cirriculum-wise and they go into raptures of joy about how OMG HE'S SUCH A GRATE TEACHER HE'S SO TOUGH AND WISE, not bothering to notice that the standard for NEWT potions is an O on the OWL.

Their hero, the Red Hen, even admits that Snape probably purposely set the standard that way to sabotage future Potions masters from being likely to edge him out of his position. The man's not stupid. He has to know that indulging his petty exercises of power will end up hurting him one day, because someone someday will become Minister for Magic and ram through an educational decree booting him out of his job, Dumbledore or no Dumbledore.

So he's staving off that day as long as possible, even at the expense of British wizarding society.

Nice guy. *snerk*
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-04 03:48 pm (UTC)
I'd had thoughts about Snape trying to sabotage future generations, but I always figured it was my own feelings about bullying teachers coming to the fore, so I never pursued it any further. I kicked around the idea that Snape might be trying to sabotage the Auror roll, though.

But I decided against it in the end.

Here's the thing: Snape acts like someone who is TRYING to get fired. This guy is supposed to be a spy, someone who's good at playing his cards close to the chest. Unless he's a really lousy spy and Voldemort is just a moron, I can't help wondering if Snape is LETTING his hatred of James (in Harry's case) and other factors control his actions. Because he definitely seems to want out of the job.

But Dumbledore has this almost pathological need to see the best in people, so he brushes off what must be a laundry list of complaints against Snape. Maybe he even knows about the curse on the Defense position--surely Dumbledore told him after he kept applying for it.

I'll admit this is mostly conjecture, but Snape is clearly not cut out for teaching, and if anything, he seems to want to get away from it.
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2009-05-04 04:10 pm (UTC)
I sporfled a little because the "trying to get fired" thing suddenly makes quite a lot of comically good sense (considering JKR seems to write for purposeful exaggerated effect at times, such as the whole mountain-of-letters-to-Harry and the retreat-to-an-abandoned-island scenes, it's got a kind of plausibility about it).

I mean, the poisoning-Neville's-toad thing? That totally should have gotten him fired, and I bet once Augusta Longbottom heard about it, she blasted Dumbledore a good one at the next Board of Governors meeting and probably threatened to bring her contacts at the Ministry to bear. :P

I bet Snape was surprised as anyone when Dumbledore met with him privatelt later and just vaguely waved away the entire incident, then offered a sherbet lemon. :P

(Deleted/reposted to fix the last para)
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-04 04:13 pm (UTC)
I'm not trying to excuse Snape's bastardry--far from it--but seriously, if this guy is supposed to be a spy, supposed to be so good at Occlumency (I laughed when he called Harry "overly emotional" like he had room to talk), you'd think he'd be a bit less blatant with the favoritism and bullying.

And it would not surprise me if Dumbledore did indeed brush all of the complaints under the rug. At any given time there are probably enough letters coming in about Snape to line every owl cage at Hogwarts.
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2009-05-04 11:14 pm (UTC)
It would be the interesting fanfic that explores Snape's mingled fascination/disbelief/wonderment at Dumbledore's lack of interest in firing him.

That being said I don't like lurid descriptions of limitless sadism such as is written in the "Year of Darkness" fic.
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:46 pm (UTC)
In addition, I've mentioned my Lily-wasn't-the-doe type theory before--the doe Patronus represents Snape's image of her, the picture of her that he spent the rest of his life holding on to, forever in denial that she grew up while he was focused on Dark magic and getting the Marauders expelled.
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-02 04:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I always liked that theory of yours. It really makes sense to me.
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:54 pm (UTC)
I'm considering expanding it into its own essay. I've already got another one in the works.
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[info]mariem_1
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Time:2009-05-02 04:55 pm (UTC)
JKR said that Lily's Patronus was a doe because she and James were a couple.
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 04:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, well, that whole thing strikes of "Sure, why not?" JKR doesn't always put her best stuff forward in interviews. I'm sorry, but it's true.
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[info]mariem_1
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Time:2009-05-02 05:06 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, but it's true.

It's just your personal opinion. And if the doe Patronus didn't represent the real Lily, why did it seem familiar to Harry?
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 05:23 pm (UTC)
Okay, okay. I'll admit, I think it makes more sense than JKR's explanation.
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-02 05:28 pm (UTC)
*playing devil's advocate* Because Snape's idea of Lily contained part of the real her (i.e. had to be based on something) but was still a fantasy image? IDK.

Re. the bit about Lily's Patronus changing to match James's, I get really pissed off by seeing James-bashers mention in sig lines that this is wrong because "does mate with bucks and stags mate with hinds." Does don't mate with other does either, so go and boil your heads.

~ fullmoonjane @ LJ
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2009-05-04 03:41 pm (UTC)
I like your comment here. I think it fits well; Lily probably learned at some point that James was a stag Animagus, and her Patronus changed around that time. I'm willing to bet that Snape's Patronus changed quite early to a doe, even before he realized the Marauders were Animagi (and he probably didn't get total confirmation of this until almost 20 years later, in PoA), and he assumed it was some aspect of Lily Evans he didn't fully understand, but liked anyway since it was about his conception of her.
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[info]esclaramonde
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Time:2009-05-02 06:33 pm (UTC)
IKAWTC. (As far as we know) Tonks's Patronus didn't turn into a female werewolf, so why wouldn't Lily's be a stag?
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-02 06:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah. The rules are pretty inconsistent.
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[info]sheep
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Time:2009-05-02 07:02 pm (UTC)
I don't think it is a rule, just that it happens some times. It depends on the person, so it will vary.
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-02 07:06 pm (UTC)
And if Lily's was a doe, why wouldn't Snape's be a stag? LOL it all seems kind of skewed by the fact that JKR doesn't have a lot of talent with consistency. Unless she's trying to tell us that Snape wanted to BE Lily, rather than be with her...
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-02 09:36 pm (UTC)
I agree with sheep; there isn't a rule. Some people's patroni clearly represent someone else. (Harry's: James. Tonks's: Remus. Snape's: Lily. Dumbledore's: Fawkes. Aberforth's: a goat.) Other people's seem to represent themselves (this is rather less obvious, but Lily's seems to be an example, and I would guess Arthur Weasley's - a weasel). Perhaps something in your personality determines the difference. But there's no reason to think it's universally either yourself or the person you most care about.
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[info]esclaramonde
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Time:2009-05-03 03:47 pm (UTC)
At the same time, though, since a) Lily's is the only one that's been pointed out as working that way and b) Lily's was described that way in an interview, off the cuff, it seems reasonable to assume that it's "one of those interview things".
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[info]lakme
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Time:2009-05-03 05:10 pm (UTC)
Now I'm wondering about animagi, too. Do they always match their patronus? Like, would McGonagall's be a cat, like Umbridge's? Do you get to pick what animal you become?
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-04 09:16 pm (UTC)
McGonagall's Patronus is a tabby cat with spectacle eye-markings, just like her Animagus, and apparently she can cast 3 at once. DH, p480 (UK edition).

~ Fernmonkey
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-05 10:18 am (UTC)
OK, so we have another case of a patronus which represents the owner herself.

(Also, when JKR was asked 'What would your animagus form be?', she replied 'The same as Hermione's - an otter'. This was a mistake, of course - Hermione isn't an animagus - but suggests she does see patronus and animagus form as going together.)
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-04 08:12 pm (UTC)
It's not just an interview thing: it's also a Harry thing. It's hard to see how he could know, but he does say it.
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[info]bigi
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Time:2009-05-03 10:38 pm (UTC)
I think the happy memory plus the feelings behind it drive the shape the patronus takes. Maybe Lily was happy in her relationship so it was a doe to go with James' stag because it was the relationship that made her happy whereas Tonks' might represent how completely she loved and accepted Remus so it became a werewolf.
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-06 08:27 am (UTC)
I dunno. I always thought of it as symbolizing that Lily and James had a complete, fulfilled relationship while Tonks's patronus manifested as a werewolf because her love for Remus was unfulfilled. But we never saw Tonks's Patronus after the end of HBP, so I guess I'll never know. Just a wacky theory.
-Miss_Mercurial on LJ
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[info]abharding
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Time:2009-05-02 09:02 pm (UTC)
All very good points. And I agree, I don't think he was jealous of Harry getting into the Tri-Wizzard Tournament he was angry because he thought Harry had found out a way to get his name into the hat and didn't share it with him. It's true that he should have realized that Harry wouldn't do to him, but as you said, it does stem form Ron's feelings about himself and his place in the Trio. He doesn't view himself as important or special. On Harry's side, Harry can't understand why Ron would doubt him (Harry) or doubt how important he (Ron) is to Harry (and to Hermione).

If Ron is "jealous" of anything, it is Harry's money. That Harry doesn't have to worry about it. That he can afford new gowns, a new wand, a new pet. Again, it goes to Ron's feeling about himself - not his feeling towards Harry. He wants Harry's money, he wants to have money like Harry does. Just as Harry is "jealous" of Ron's family. One thing I loved was how each boy takes what he has for granted - Harry money (at least in the Wizarding world) and Ron - family.

I have more thoughts I will post later.
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-03 03:54 am (UTC)
Very good points.
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(Anonymous)
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Time:2009-05-07 03:26 am (UTC)
Is the winner of the Tri-Wizzard Tournament the one to run the furthest away from the challenges within a set time?

-shay_guy
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2009-05-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
I really liked this in-depth analysis of the events surrounding Ron in the GoF book. And I particularly liked how you showed the differences between the way Ron acted and the way someone like Draco would have acted.

And that last bit about the events of DH? A very nice touch. :)
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[info]angakkuq
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Time:2009-05-04 03:35 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
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[info]meagenimage
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Time:2009-05-06 01:46 pm (UTC)
Very interesting. Makes me want to dig out my copy of GF again. (Haven't touched the series since OP...)
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