The HMS STFU - And now we're back to Lily bashing....
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February 18th, 2011
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| Another comment by Minerva's Cat from different thread (http://www.thehpn.com/index.php?option=c Great essay, SIP. It really has made me go back over the series and look at it all again in yet another light. Like so many others here, I've always been bothered by the image of James that we see (a spoiled rotten bully, theif, rulebreaker, etc.) and the perception of James by others that is given (great wizard, brave, true, loyal, kind, helps old ladies across the street, takes in stray dogs...well, werewolves...). They really do not match at all. I'd forgotten about the snitch and initials scene, too. Glad that was brought up. I think it does show that James looked at Lily as something to be won from the evil Severus. Funny how all of the stories about Severus' knowledge of the Dark Arts came from the Marauders. I think I smell a rat...and I don't think it was Wormslime. A bit of propaganda, maybe. Planting the seeds of doubt with Lily toward her "best friend." How Lily could even have an interest in James, who freely admits that he terrorized and humiliated Severus "just because he exists" is beyond belief. This was her best friend James was talking about. This was a boy whose face lit up when she said his name, a boy who she knew had suffered abuse and neglect at home and looked to her for some bit of affection. She had to know how Severus felt about her. She was fifteen and she wasn't blind. I started to say she wasn't stupid, but then I remembered she fell for James. Duh. She had to know he was in love with her. And, yet, she sat for sometime while he was being tortured, and even had to fight back a smile at his humiliation...with friends like that... It seems to me that JKR has "used" the films in her own propaganda campaign to bring about her updated image of James rather than the nasty git we see in the books. I think she wants everyone to see the James and Lily dancing happily in the picture on Harry's night stand, or the proud parents with baby Harry in the album Hagrid gave him. It's certainly not the same James she shows us in the books. When Severus assigned Harry the re-copying of the detentions records, I wonder how many Harry found Severus had for having bullied or hexed James or Sirius? None that we see, and, I have a feeling if he'd come across any they would have been mentioned. Snape-haters like to point out how emotionally abusive it was to make Harry read all of these negative things about his dead father and godfather. IMO, the idea was for Harry to get a real picture of his father and godfather and not follow in their tracks. About Dumbledore and the three Hallows. It seems kind of ironic that he brought about an earlier end to his life while trying to obtain all three Hallows and become the Master of Death. Just a thought. | ||||||
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| takes in stray dogs...well, werewolves... LOLOL they just called Lupin a stray dog. How charming. | ||||||
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| Well, considering that in meta - not even fanfic, they've referred to Lupin in purposely unflattering terms ("the werewolf", etc), I'd say their stray dog thing is of a piece with the Snape-eyed view they love so much. *sigh* | ||||||
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| ...they write fanfics where Snape refers to Lupin only as "Wolf", as in "You'll get no sympathy from me, Wolf." | ||||||||
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| How Lily could even have an interest in James, who freely admits that he terrorized and humiliated Severus "just because he exists" is beyond belief. This was her best friend James was talking about. This incredulity is shocking, considering the huge contingent of HP fandom who regularly ship Snape/Hermione, Snarry, Draco/Harry, and pretty much any other Slytherin/main-character ship. I thought the "[insert character here] would NEVER fall for Snape/Draco, when Snape/Draco has always been so mean to hir friends!" thing died out of fandom long ago. But I guess it's only Slytherin characters who have hidden depths, huh? Yes, James was a toerag. Seriously doubt that was ALL there was to his personality. Also, Lily probably did know perfectly well that Snape was in love with her. How the hell does this prohibit her from falling in love with someone else?? *pulls hair out* She's under no obligation to fall for her best friend no matter how badly he wants into her pants. I'd get it if they had just left it at questioning Lily's taste (well, no; between canon!James and their woobie!Snape, I'd've picked James too), but claiming Lily's stupid or evil because Snape doesn't do it for her the way he clearly does it for them is just. So. Moronic. I wonder how many Harry found Severus had for having bullied or hexed James or Sirius? None that we see, and, I have a feeling if he'd come across any they would have been mentioned. Snape-haters like to point out how emotionally abusive it was to make Harry read all of these negative things about his dead father and godfather. IMO, the idea was for Harry to get a real picture of his father and godfather and not follow in their tracks. In which case, Harry finding any detention slips Snape might have gotten for hexing James and his friends would completely defeat the purpose. But I'm guessing no one on that board pointed this out? | ||||||
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The HMS STFU - And now we're back to Lily bashing....
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