Oh boy
The boards have been going crazy the past few days, ever since the finale of the Apprentice. In case you haven't seen it, Randal (a black man, widely considered to have done the best job overall) was hired, and almost directly after that, Trump asked him if the runner-up, Rebecca (a white woman) should be hired as well. Randal said no, "It's the Apprentice, not the Apprenti," or wtte. Trump said okay then, and then the show ended because this all took place at like 10:58.

Over on the episode thread, a lot of people are complaining about Randal's decision, and saying they lost all respect for him.

On Randal's specific thread we get more of the same, with the bonus of some MsAlli posts. At one point she says Randal's act was "Maybe the lowest and most indefensible thing I've ever seen on reality TV, and I've watched a lot of reality TV."

And then we have the Race and the Apprentice thread and the General Ethnicity and TV thread, who see things completely different, and do a lot of meta talk. Harsh all around.

Not really twop crit, but I figured it went better here than on f_w.

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(Anonymous)
2005-12-24 07:13 am UTC (link)

I hope ignatius, who started this section, really didn't want to discuss The Apprentice stuff going on over at TWoP too much since only about a dozen posts out of 85 (and counting) are actually about that.

No one is being prevented from talking about The Apprentice and Miss Alli here. If anyone wants to talk about that, they certainly can. It looks like people are simply more offended by TWoP Sucks than by Miss Alli right now.

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(Anonymous)
2005-12-26 11:36 pm UTC (link)

Totally.

"TWoP Sucks people are invading the board!"

Yeah, but it's not like we're trolling. It's up to the rest of you to actually criticize the site. If we've made most of the posts, I believe that it speaks more towards your lack of anything to say than our silliness.

"Eris Rising derails every conversation and makes it about him!"

Yeah, this was kind of funny for a while, but really? Shut it. It's not like I'm sitting behind you at your computer, forcing you to talk about me. Feel free to talk about whatever your little heart desires. You know, just like I do, or every other freaking person online does.

"TWoP Crit has become more about TWoP Sucks than TWoP!"

Again...feel free to post about what you want to post about. No one is stopping you. Talk about The Apprentice, Jacob, Miss Alli, Television Without Pity, the enforcement of the rules, whatever. If you're interesting, then people will respond on-topic. If you're not, then they'll find something else to talk about (though hopefully along something close to the same lines), and you'll have no one but yourself to blame.

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	(Anonymous) 2005-12-26 11:58 pm UTC (link)
	What if you're on a message board about the news, but you personally find the news boring? Should you start discussing your Uncle Frank's stinky socks? If you're on a message board about a TV show, should you start talking about how your refridgerator broke? You can, but it's rude and a little irritating. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2005-12-27 12:41 am UTC (link)

But we're not talking about that, are we? No one has posted a message that had nothing to do with TWoP. Even the TWoP Sucks criticisms, while tangenital to the discussion at hand, still relate to the subject at hand.

Here's what we've had so far on TWoP_Crit:

1) Posts having to do with the Apprentice topic
2) Posts having to do with TWoP_Sucks
3) Posts responding to one of the two above subjects
4) Overly meta posts like this one, and yours, and my original one up there.

If you want clarification, then no: I don't think that it's appropriate for people to talk about stinky socks, or their refrigerator, or what their parakeet thinks of the latest singer on reality TV. I'm sure that I could have expressed my original thoughts better, and I'm sorry if it led to any confusion. However, the comments being bitched about here flowed pretty naturally from the original topic.

Of course, Deeablo may think differently, and if so, I apologize for going so far off-track.

But again: Nothing is keeping you from discussing the original topic, and ignoring the still-relevant tangents that people are going off on.

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