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Magically Ridiculous ([info]staroverthebay) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-04-18 12:21:00


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Is the use of "derpy" ableist?
Disclaimer: I initially planned to post this in [info]equestria since it's largely about My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic but I changed my mind and chose to post here because while this discusses primarily MLP:FiM, the issues under discussion are not only unfunny and potentially rage-inducing, it's also something that could be applied to almost any fandom. If I have erred and this belongs in [info]equestria, then I will move it over there, but due to the unfunny issues involved, and the fact that this could be applied to nearly any fandom, I chose to go with the F_W rule of thumb: "When in doubt, UFB"

A little background: In My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, there is a very popular background pony, a periwinkle-blue pegasus pony with yellow hair and yellowish eyes, and a cutie mark of bubbles on her flanks. She appears frequently but is just as described: a background character; she plays no part in the plots. However, due to an animation error -- accidental or intentional, we don't know -- in the very first episode, she was presented in her first appearance with crazy, unaligned eyes, and the fandom glommed on to her. She is known by the fandom nickname of "Derpy Hooves" and show-creator Lauren Faust has stated that because background ponies have no names, that particular one can be Derpy if that's what the fandom wants.

Make no mistake, Derpy Hooves is hugely popular -- she can even rival the main characters in popularity. Fandom has created a very complex and interesting fanon about her, and she remains one of the most drawn, sprited and written-about characters in the series.

So, I was browsing Tumblr the other night, and came across an unusually vitriolic (and overly-generalizing, I think) comment by a user named "tumblrvigilante" decrying the name "Derpy Hooves" and the entire internet "derp" meme.

The thing is, the "derp" meme and more or less everything born of it (including "Derpy Hooves") makes a literal punch line out of those who are mentally disabled or simple unintelligent -- laughing at someone because of how they look or the state of their mental faculties is wrong and offensive. When you laugh because "Derpy Hooves" does something "stupid" (an ableist term in itself), you are laughing at "stupidity" in general -- you are laughing at something that nobody can help; you are laughing at the way someone was born. The same applies to laughing at "Derpy Hooves" because she has a lazy eye. When we openly laugh at and support these things, we support contributions to a culture that teaches not only our general population, but more importantly our -children- that laughing at people for being disabled, for looking on, for being unintelligent, is okay. But it's really not okay to laugh at someone with disabilities, is it?

In the argument that her "silly" appearance is "cute" or "endearing" -- well, that's a bit appropriative. It promotes the idea that it's okay to dehumanize someone with a physical/noticeable disability into something that makes us smile or laugh, even in what we consider a "positive" way. People with disabilities are not here for our entertainment or amusement. They are not here to make us feel better or to make us smile. They are just here, like you or me or anyone. They are people, and they deserve our respect for that alone.

"But she's just a pony," you'll probably say. Yes, she is a pony, and an animated, fictional one at that. But she is a product of our culture, and she contributes to it. She's being used to teach kids and adults alike that dehumanizing PWD is okay. She's being used to promote the idea that the "derp" meme is unharmful, but the process won't end with just the "derp" meme. It will carry over. Things like the "derp" meme can and have and will continue to be used as support for people who like to use the word "retarded" in a derogatory manner (which is basically what everyone who participates in the "derp/Derpy Hooves" meme is already doing), among several other demeaning and ableist slurs.

It's not okay, this "derp" business. And honestly, if you want to support it? At least come out and be upfront with what you're saying: You're okay with and openly support dehumanizing, slurring against, and generally ridiculing PWD/disabilities themselves.


In other words, tumblrvigilante believes that the use of the word "derp" is ableism, and calling the pony "Derpy Hooves" is tantamount to making fun of her unusual appearance.

The owner of the tumblr blog the comment was posted on was rather confused and taken aback by the comment, and posted a long response on her personal tumblr blog, hayjulay.

Later, tumblrvigilante replies with his or her own long response, further insisting that the use of the word "derp" is ableist and harmful, regardless of intent.

hayjulay replies again, and subsequently the point is presumably dropped by both sides. Both sides have made valid points (as well as some less-convincing points) in argument for or against the "derp meme" being ableist, and it appears that they have come to the "agree to disagree" conclusion.

This exchange between tumblrvigilante and hayjulay has been on my mind since I read it, and I briefly discussed the topic with a few friends. However, I'm curious to know what everyone here at [info]unfunny_fandom thinks. Is the whole "derp" meme an ableist slur, making fun of someone who is less fortunate or something that can't be controlled? Is the nickname "Derpy Hooves" actually ableism in disguise? Or is it all effectively a mountain made from a molehill?


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[info]chibikaijuu
2011-04-19 04:19 am UTC (link)
"Idiot" has a history long predating IQ tests and creepy, eugenics-fueled "medical" categorizations.
"Moron" and "imbecile" were created specifically as categorizational terms and as such are pretty fucking offensive.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-04-19 04:53 am UTC (link)
Don't forget "cretin" and all its adjectival forms.

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[info]chibikaijuu
2011-04-19 07:57 pm UTC (link)
The etymology of "cretin" is a little bit different (I'm going to quote from Wikipedia here):

"Cretinism is a condition of severely stunted physical and mental growth due to untreated congenital deficiency of thyroid hormones (congenital hypothyroidism) due to maternal nutritional deficiency of iodine.

[...]

The term cretin is a medical term which describes a person so affected with the condition, but, as with words such as spastic and lunatic, it can also have a vulgar connotation and can be used disparagingly. Cretin became a medical term in the 18th century, from an Alpine French dialect; it saw wide medical use in the 19th and early 20th centuries, and then spread more widely in popular English as a markedly derogatory term for a person who behaves stupidly. Because of its pejorative connotations in popular speech, health-care workers have mostly abandoned cretin."

While not created specifically as a term used to classify people effectively as less-than-human, the use became so widespread that it is now probably the best-known meaning, and like the other mentioned medical terms like "spastic", now out-of-use because of the offensive connotations. (Weirdly, when I first encountered it in use, it meant more akin to "creepy and invasively socially inept" than "mentally deficient".) (Re: "spastic" - I am still trying to cut "spaz" out of my vocabulary, because "spastic" was never as popular a term for people with CP or other motor control issues where I was from than it was elsewhere, so I didn't make the connection for a long time - the use I was familiar with was more about mental, er, short-circuiting that may have been expressed in flaily movement, - basically, a very excitable ditz.)

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