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dottiness ([info]dottiness) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-04-19 22:12:00


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Right, so, Ginia Bellafante did a terrible, sexist, uninformed review of HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones including statements about how it was boy fiction, the sex and intrigue was only in there as a bone thrown to women viewers, and she'd never met a woman who would rather read "The Hobbit" than a piece of literary fiction.

Apparently she got hundreds of angry emails, hundreds of angry tweets, and "three supportive notes from people she is personally considering adopting." So what lesson does she take from all of this?

"Pull up a throne and let's talk" includes such well-written responses as this:

"As I wrote in the review, I realize that there are women who love fantasy, but I don’t know any and that is the truth: I don’t know any."

"But they have also sent long and vitriolic attacks claiming that, in my negativity, I made it clear that I had no idea what I was talking about. I appreciate the economy of those readers who began and ended their comments: “You are a complete idiot.” Phrases like that constituted a whole subgenre of the online response."


Lots of comments on both sides of the issue, but, unsurprisingly, a tremendously large number calling her out on her excuse for saying no woman would ever want to read fantasy.

I didn't know where this should go, so I stuck with the old "if you aren't sure, put it in UFB!" rule. The last post about this was in [info]fandom_lounge, but I think her continuing to dig the hole deeper probably belongs elsewhere.


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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-20 03:29 am UTC (link)
Exactly what about the Guards set screams 'teenage boys'? If it's geared at anyone it's geared at older men (especially fathers) who find something of themselves in Vimes.

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[info]kosaginolegion
2011-04-20 01:10 pm UTC (link)
So not limited to older men.

*comes up as Vimes or Granny Weatherwax on most tests.* (Of course, those things are easily gamed, but the fact that I prefer to may mean something as well.)

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-04-20 04:45 pm UTC (link)
that you want to decide who lives and who dies?

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[info]kosaginolegion
2011-04-20 04:56 pm UTC (link)
Never noticed that being an aspect of either character. Responsible Adult despite themselves, on the other hand....

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[info]frequentmouse
2011-04-20 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Both of them would answer that with "sooner or later, everybody dies."

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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-21 12:53 am UTC (link)
...at least for Vimes, the entire point is that it isn't his choice. It's for the Law to decide. Look what happened with Carcer in Night Watch.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-04-21 02:04 am UTC (link)
okay, clearly I know nothing about the books or characters. sorry.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-21 02:48 am UTC (link)
So, uh...where'd that comment come from, then?

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-04-21 04:56 am UTC (link)
if this comm has taught me anything, it's when to just shut up.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-21 04:58 am UTC (link)
If you don't know anything about the characters, why did you make that comment? You're pouting but I can't tell what about.

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[info]frequentmouse
2011-04-22 10:09 pm UTC (link)
A lesson worth learning, right up there with understanding that willingness to recognize reality does not equal deciding who will live and who will die.

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[info]kumquat_of_doom
2011-04-23 12:54 am UTC (link)
...Have you even READ the Guards or Witches books? Because seriously, where did you get that impression from?

(Really, I'm actually interested. Am writing my BA dissertation on the Guards books and am interested to know how you got that interpretation of Vimes.)

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