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h_landless ([info]h_landless) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-04-21 15:50:00


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Yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth!
Once there was a fan called RedPassion who liked to draw her Mary Sue Emily with Louis XVI. Later she moved to HP fandom and started drawing Emily with Snape. Recently she made a comic about Snape, Emily Sue and Lily and it was full of sexism and stupidity. Here are some comments from RedPassion herself and the people who liked her comic:

“By the way I don’t think Lily was an egoistic person. Naive, yes. Incomplete character, yes. Boring, totally yes. BTW she is just a character I think poorly of .”

“She always used him for help at school our before to get details about the wizard world and most of all to married potter without to give a thought what could happened to Severus”

“I mean, how can Snape forsake his housemates and Dark magic when HE IS SURROUNDED BY THEM ALMOST 24/7?!”

“I’m sick and tired of all the fanart where Lily ‘forgives’ Severus. It should be the other way ‘round.”

“Some people are blinded by her protection of Harry and can’t find a fault in her”

“Lily can also be read as a gold-digger. By this view she would have been delighted to hear Severus say that one forbidden word. Here was just the excuse she needed to move up in the world.”

“The best thing that resulted out of Lily was the complexity of Snape because of all the heartache. If I were Lily, I wouldn’t have deserted my best friend just because he called me a name. After all, friends forgive each other, right?”

“He deserves way better than some childhood sweetheart who ditched him because he said one word. (Emily is making me sssooooo jealous, though XD) I am so tired of seeing SnapexLily fanart. She’s dead, and he’s on the market.”

“Lily was a bitch *nodnod* Running off with the people who tormented her best friend. Such a fickle woman -.-“


Also look at this gem of a conversation:

ladysugarquill

Well, Lily and Snape didn't fight because of one nickname. They fought because Lily got fed up Snape was into the Dark Arts and wanted to be a Death Eater (that is, people who think it's fun to torture and murder others because they're muggleborn - just like Lily). She spent 5 years trying to convince him not to become a MURDERER, but he was so scared of not belonging that he wouldn't listen.

And he didn't slip, he threw a racist insult to her face. Would you blame a jew girl for not staying friends with a member of the Hitler Youth? Knowing that he, or his friends, could kill her and her family tomorrow, just because she dared to be born from certain people?

RedPassion

I hold it like ~DoomOverlord. I won´t discuss this further, cause i would just repeat myself again and again. And i don´t think we both would chance or opinions on it. :/

I just can say that i´m half german and half british and i that don´t care of that when my friends needs me. No matter in what. Most of all when such a sad and bad background happened in their life like Snape has! Cause in that case it was Lily who felt ashamed for Severus infront of her friends even if actually Severus had "much more reasons" for it when we look at this from the point of e.g the different houses... Its true that you shouldn´t care from where someone came ect. And yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth! As said i´m am german and i was growing up in germany and not everybody there back in days where a Nazi!! Was Bad or something like that. E.g Sophie Scholl from the resistance movement the white rose "Weisse Rose" was there and she was pleased with it cause she could spend time with others girls in her age and she lost her life later cause she was executed cause she fought together with her brother and his friends against Hilter and for the jews and a free Germany! But even she was in the Hitleryouth she never was against jews! Hans Scholl also was in the Hitleryouth as well and he gave e.g his iron ration and cigarettes to a jewish girl even it was forbidden and he already worn his uniform and was a soldier of Hitler in that way... and he also would never have killed a jew!


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[info]janegraddell
2011-04-21 02:20 pm UTC (link)
back in days where a Nazi!! Was Bad or something like that

I really have no coherent response to this.

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[info]dottiness
2011-04-21 02:26 pm UTC (link)
That last comment. What in the hell is even going on with it.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2011-04-21 02:28 pm UTC (link)
As said i´m am german and i was growing up in germany and not everybody there back in days where a Nazi!! Was Bad or something like that.

Methinks someone has a poor grasp of history. Either that, or we really are dealing with someone who is 70-odd years old.

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[info]indis_earfalas
2011-04-21 02:45 pm UTC (link)
I'll go with a poor grasp of history + a nice bit of victim blaming and a massive dose of "Saint Sevvy is NEVER IN THE WRONG OMG!!!".

Tangently, I've got all sorts of family that were on several sides of the war ... and some of the shit they told me, well, someone's wearing Sevvy tinted glasses.

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[info]chikane
2011-04-21 05:15 pm UTC (link)
Well, the statement that back then not everybody was a Nazi/a Nazi supporter is actually accurate.
It even goes for the Hitler Youth, because after a certain point, it became mandatory to join it - one'd only escape with backing from someone higher up in one's family. Being in the Hitler Youth did not mean on was necessarily for the Nazis. I know that many people today do not understand this, but historically, it really is accurate.

That said, the argument abou this misses the point, either way, because a jewish girl would have every right in the world to dump the ass of anyone who supported the Nazis. Only a complete douchebag would deny this.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-21 04:36 pm UTC (link)
I hate people who think that ~friendship~ means you should drop everything and defend your friends no matter what they're doing. At some point you should be the one telling your friend they're wrong...and at some point they just need to stop being your friend.

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[info]tehrin
2011-04-21 05:27 pm UTC (link)
I admit that some people were pressured into joining or joined and may have had second thoughts, but they were still part of an oppressive regime that made people wear yellow stars so they could be marked as Jews and not be given the same rights as ordinary citizens of the majority, forced people to live in ghettos and sent them to concentration camps to die or work their asses off then die from exhaustion. Now, whether or not you believe people knew about the concentration camps, no one could deny that people against the Nazis or members of minority groups were disappearing because they were seen as subhuman by the state. There are trip stones all over some cities which give the names and dates of when people were born and disappeared or died who were Jewish. And its not like antisemitism was a NEW thing in Europe but was firmly ingrained in society. It was around for centuries.

She can go fuck herself and go read read about the massacre at Cologne and other cities throughout Europe, the Inquisition/inquisitions, or read "Merchant of Venice" by Shakespeare or pick up any fucking textbook. Because she is part German and grew up in Germany, this is extra baffling.

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[info]jkefka
2011-04-21 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Right in the middle of Passover, too. Timely.

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[info]chienne
2011-04-21 06:52 pm UTC (link)
"i that don´t care of that when my friends needs me. No matter in what. Most of all when such a sad and bad background happened in their life like Snape has!"

Well, golly gee! I guess this means that the families of Addie Mae Collins, Denise McNair, Carole Robertson, and Cynthia Wesley are obligated to not only forgive Bobby Frank Cherry, Thomas Blanton, Herman Frank Cash, and Robert Chambliss, but also become best friends with them.

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[info]anidraugluin
2011-04-21 08:00 pm UTC (link)
I don't think I can even read this. I tried, but after a couple of sentences all I saw was barely-literate keyboard mashing. Over the years, batshit Snapefen have devolved from my favorite wankers into just.... extremely tiresome.

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[info]hallidae
2011-04-21 10:30 pm UTC (link)
987th verse, same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse. Fucking hell, this fandom makes me want to beat my head against a wall sometimes.

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[info]phosfate
2011-04-21 10:59 pm UTC (link)
And yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth!

WHOAH NELLIE! D:

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[info]bobafeis
2011-04-22 01:52 am UTC (link)
I liked Snapefen wankery better when they were still newlyweds on the astral plane, before the honeymoon ended and we got to see what they were really like.

I can't even begin to form a comment on this wank that isn't written entirely in CAPITAL ANGRISH, so I'm just going to say that she really looks like her Mary Sue. I know that's the point, but, wow.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2011-04-22 01:56 am UTC (link)
And yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth!

Care to say that to my face, you racism-apologist? Better yet, how about to my observant Jewish extended family? I'd love to see what my grandmother would have to say. Or my grandfather; he participated in WWII. It's also a pity that my German paternal grandfather isn't alive so he can tell you what it was like to be German and not support the Nazis, though to give you a hint, his family didn't stay in Germany long.

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[info]franzen
2011-04-22 02:15 am UTC (link)
That last paragraph, holy shit. I think I'm going to vomit.

This girl and the HP RPer I knew who described a character's grandparents as Auschwitz survivors who found the experience "hard" need to meet. Oh my God. I seriously thought that on the Holocaust, at least, fandom could agree to treat this with respect, but ... be right back, hurling.

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(no subject) - ealusaid, 2011-04-22 02:48 am UTC

[info]finchbird
2011-04-22 03:10 am UTC (link)
That last paragraph. HOLY SHIT! D: D: D: D:

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-04-22 03:14 am UTC (link)
I am so befuddled and ill-feeling. And it's not just the migraine making me feel that way.

...

LOUIS XVI? Really?! And I thought my crush on Tom Baker was weird...

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(no subject) - [info]sarahfrost, 2011-04-22 05:54 am UTC
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[info]spawn_of_kong
2011-04-22 03:40 am UTC (link)
and she lost her life later cause she was executed cause she fought together with her brother and his friends against Hilter and for the jews and a free Germany!

...I know this is probably not how she intended this to sound, but it seems like she's saying that one shouldn't bother standing up against oppression if you might die for doing so.

Then again, maybe that explains her being pro-Snape, since clearly the Death Eaters were the winning side, or something, so it's all well and good and GAH.

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[info]lilychan
2011-04-22 07:48 am UTC (link)
How about no and get a healthy dose of reality, RedPassion?

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-04-22 09:58 am UTC (link)
I've been reading this in small bits, as that's as much as I can take at once, and I just noticed this: She’s dead, and he’s on the market

So that deadly snake bite was just a flesh wound then? He's not dead! He's pining for the moors!

Also, Lily is dead because of Snape. I guess that's absolutely a-okay though; conspiring to murder innocent people, including a toddler, was his idiom.

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[info]sailorlum
2011-04-22 03:29 pm UTC (link)
It's a day later, and still all I have is a bucket full of this D: and this: http://www.sailorlum.com/janhorrified.gif

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[info]misachan
2011-04-23 06:00 pm UTC (link)
My favorite part of these baffling Snape!fan wanks is imagining how incensed Snape would be to hear anyone talking about Lily like this. There would be hexes for all!

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(no subject) - [info]sailorlum, 2011-04-24 01:45 pm UTC

[info]miraba
2011-04-24 05:28 am UTC (link)
And she's now "blocked" (ie deleted) some of the comments by other people who didn't agree with her.

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[info]pantyless_angel
2011-04-24 07:33 pm UTC (link)
That is... I don't even know what the fuck that is...

Dammit Snapefen, Snape used to be one of my favorite characters and you are making me hate him... You know I think the thing I hate the most about all this is that if it were the other way around and Lily had been the one getting bullied and said something horrible to Snape, Lily would still be in the wrong. Seriously if someone wrote a fic where that happened I think they would all rage against Lily and not bat an eye at their own hypocrisy.

They bitch about "it's ok if a Gryffindor does it," but they never see their own freaking double standard no matter how obvious it is.

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(no subject) - [info]snarkhunter, 2011-04-27 06:26 pm UTC

[info]braidedmane
2011-05-23 03:24 pm UTC (link)
It's clear English is not her first language, but my goodness, that comic is like word salad. I really could not figure out what was going on there.

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