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h_landless ([info]h_landless) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-04-21 15:50:00


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Yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth!
Once there was a fan called RedPassion who liked to draw her Mary Sue Emily with Louis XVI. Later she moved to HP fandom and started drawing Emily with Snape. Recently she made a comic about Snape, Emily Sue and Lily and it was full of sexism and stupidity. Here are some comments from RedPassion herself and the people who liked her comic:

“By the way I don’t think Lily was an egoistic person. Naive, yes. Incomplete character, yes. Boring, totally yes. BTW she is just a character I think poorly of .”

“She always used him for help at school our before to get details about the wizard world and most of all to married potter without to give a thought what could happened to Severus”

“I mean, how can Snape forsake his housemates and Dark magic when HE IS SURROUNDED BY THEM ALMOST 24/7?!”

“I’m sick and tired of all the fanart where Lily ‘forgives’ Severus. It should be the other way ‘round.”

“Some people are blinded by her protection of Harry and can’t find a fault in her”

“Lily can also be read as a gold-digger. By this view she would have been delighted to hear Severus say that one forbidden word. Here was just the excuse she needed to move up in the world.”

“The best thing that resulted out of Lily was the complexity of Snape because of all the heartache. If I were Lily, I wouldn’t have deserted my best friend just because he called me a name. After all, friends forgive each other, right?”

“He deserves way better than some childhood sweetheart who ditched him because he said one word. (Emily is making me sssooooo jealous, though XD) I am so tired of seeing SnapexLily fanart. She’s dead, and he’s on the market.”

“Lily was a bitch *nodnod* Running off with the people who tormented her best friend. Such a fickle woman -.-“


Also look at this gem of a conversation:

ladysugarquill

Well, Lily and Snape didn't fight because of one nickname. They fought because Lily got fed up Snape was into the Dark Arts and wanted to be a Death Eater (that is, people who think it's fun to torture and murder others because they're muggleborn - just like Lily). She spent 5 years trying to convince him not to become a MURDERER, but he was so scared of not belonging that he wouldn't listen.

And he didn't slip, he threw a racist insult to her face. Would you blame a jew girl for not staying friends with a member of the Hitler Youth? Knowing that he, or his friends, could kill her and her family tomorrow, just because she dared to be born from certain people?

RedPassion

I hold it like ~DoomOverlord. I won´t discuss this further, cause i would just repeat myself again and again. And i don´t think we both would chance or opinions on it. :/

I just can say that i´m half german and half british and i that don´t care of that when my friends needs me. No matter in what. Most of all when such a sad and bad background happened in their life like Snape has! Cause in that case it was Lily who felt ashamed for Severus infront of her friends even if actually Severus had "much more reasons" for it when we look at this from the point of e.g the different houses... Its true that you shouldn´t care from where someone came ect. And yes i would blame the jew if she just left her friend cause he/she was/is a part of the Hitleryouth! As said i´m am german and i was growing up in germany and not everybody there back in days where a Nazi!! Was Bad or something like that. E.g Sophie Scholl from the resistance movement the white rose "Weisse Rose" was there and she was pleased with it cause she could spend time with others girls in her age and she lost her life later cause she was executed cause she fought together with her brother and his friends against Hilter and for the jews and a free Germany! But even she was in the Hitleryouth she never was against jews! Hans Scholl also was in the Hitleryouth as well and he gave e.g his iron ration and cigarettes to a jewish girl even it was forbidden and he already worn his uniform and was a soldier of Hitler in that way... and he also would never have killed a jew!


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[info]tehrin
2011-04-21 05:27 pm UTC (link)
I admit that some people were pressured into joining or joined and may have had second thoughts, but they were still part of an oppressive regime that made people wear yellow stars so they could be marked as Jews and not be given the same rights as ordinary citizens of the majority, forced people to live in ghettos and sent them to concentration camps to die or work their asses off then die from exhaustion. Now, whether or not you believe people knew about the concentration camps, no one could deny that people against the Nazis or members of minority groups were disappearing because they were seen as subhuman by the state. There are trip stones all over some cities which give the names and dates of when people were born and disappeared or died who were Jewish. And its not like antisemitism was a NEW thing in Europe but was firmly ingrained in society. It was around for centuries.

She can go fuck herself and go read read about the massacre at Cologne and other cities throughout Europe, the Inquisition/inquisitions, or read "Merchant of Venice" by Shakespeare or pick up any fucking textbook. Because she is part German and grew up in Germany, this is extra baffling.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-04-21 06:33 pm UTC (link)
And it's not like Snape was strongarmed into being a Death Eater, IIRC. He was gleeful about it.

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[info]hadesphoenix
2011-04-22 06:43 pm UTC (link)
Because she is part German and grew up in Germany, this is extra baffling.

From what I understand, in very brief and delicate discussion on this with German students, most contemporary Germans try to disassociate themselves from Nazi history. One of my folklore professors said it's difficult to find books on German folklore because it was used as Nazi propaganda in 'what it means to be German' and so now has earned that association.

(Please note that I'm repeating this all second-hand.)

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[info]aaron_agonistes
2011-04-22 09:07 pm UTC (link)
I've never heard of trip stones before, and Google is failing me. Could I bother you for a link to more information?

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[info]tehrin
2011-04-22 11:36 pm UTC (link)
I have an image on my comp which I can post when I get home and have the chance to.

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[info]tehrin
2011-04-24 08:18 am UTC (link)
Okay, here's the pic I have on my HD. I was misinformed about the size of the memorial, but here's an article on Reuters you can read. They're actually called Stolpersteine or "stumble stones" and seem to be located in one village, not all over Germany.

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[info]libelle
2011-04-25 10:54 am UTC (link)
I remembered seeing similar Stolpersteine in Nuremberg, so I googled and found the official German website of the project. According to this, there are Stolpersteine in more than 500 cities/towns/villages in Germany, as well as in several other European Countries.

The project wants to keep the memory of all the victims of Nazi deportation and murder alive, Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, those persecuted because of their political positions, Jehovah's Witnesses and others persecuted for their religion, and the victims of euthanasia.

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