go ahead and put the self-nominated hardcore historians in the haters group. anybody that self-identifies as a hardcore historian is automatically a stuck-up botched abortion who gets all their information off wikipedia.
...... and what about those of us who happen to love history (and in my case, hope to become a teacher in it someday, if I can ever afford to go back to school again) and actually READ their history textbooks (I get my old one out and read it once in a while)