Jackass is a fandom, right?
So obviously we all know that Ryan Dunn from "Jackass" was killed in a horrible car crash early yesterday morning. And many family members, friends, and fans are in mourning right now. But then Roger Ebert had to speak up. Needless to say, many are pissed at his insensitivity.

Sadly, I kind of figured something like this was going to happen considering the stunts "Jackass" is known for (and we all remember the "Steve Irwin had it coming" wank), but still... that doesn't excuse Ebert's words at all.

Beware the comments in the MSN article, they are just as bad as Ebert's original tweet.

ETA: I would normally agree with the comments here as well, except that the police haven't actually confirmed that he was drunk. If it turns out that that's what happened, that's one thing. But... I'd rather wait to find out the results before I agree with one side or the other.

ETA 2: Apparently Ebert has apologized to Dunn's family and friends saying he tweeted too soon. From People.com

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	anarchicq 2011-06-21 08:46 pm UTC (link)
	...Yeeeahhh, I have no sympathy for a dude who decides to drive drunk then gets himself dumbassidly killed. Especially when said person made a career out of doing things that could very well get himself killed. And yes, I am thankful they only killed themselves and not some innocent driver who happened to be on the road at the same time. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	quantumreality 2011-06-21 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	This. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	anarchicq 2011-06-21 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	I would be saddened if it was, say, faulty breaks or he got hit by a drunk driver while sober, but no. He chose to drink and he chose to drive. He made his choices. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	miraba 2011-06-21 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	Unfortunately, there was a passenger in the car with him. I couldn't give a shit about the insensitivity of Ebert's statement. It's true and everyone needs to know it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	anarchicq 2011-06-21 08:59 pm UTC (link)
	I presumed the passenger was a drinking buddy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

ladyrogue
2011-06-21 10:17 pm UTC (link)

I understand where Ebert is coming from and I totally agree that if he was drunk, that that was really stupid on Dunn's part. The main problem I have with Ebert's statement is that it happened just yesterday and the family is still in mourning. He is very correct about drinking and driving being incredibly stupid and people need to see that, I just think it was poorly executed.

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	thoms 2011-06-21 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	This, thank you. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	cyan_aura 2011-06-21 10:54 pm UTC (link)
	This. If you want to be a jackass and hurt only yourself, that's one thing. When you kill someone else too you're a douchebag. Also: while it has not been confirmed that the dude was drunk, it has been confirmed that he was drinking. I don't care if the legal limit is .8, if you're .7 and kill someone, you're still a douchebag. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kookaburra 2011-06-22 10:31 am UTC (link)
	Yeah. I'm kind of feeling the same way I do when people tell me that someone getting fileted in the bullring is a tragedy. Really can't work up too much more than a generalized vaguely melancholy feeling. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

janegray
2011-06-22 12:59 pm UTC (link)

I'm kind of feeling the same way I do when people tell me that someone getting fileted in the bullring is a tragedy.

In those cases I tend to think more something along the lines of "karma."

Killing animals so you can eat them, fine. I eat meat, so I'd be a huge hypocrite to condemn the killing of bulls.

It's the whole "repeatedly stabbing them in the spine with knives to kill them slowly and painfully for the enjoyment of the cheering crowd" part that I have a problem with.

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kookaburra
2011-06-22 06:14 pm UTC (link)

That is definitely how I feel too. Hell, I've assisted with the slaughter and butcher of domestic livestock, so I'd definitely be a hypocrite if it was just the killing.

I did see a clip of a bunch of acrobats once that seemed to be trying to bring back a modern take on Minoan bull-jumping. That was cool, but it was on a Spanish channel, so I have no idea what the narration was.

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