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Yaoi Mistress ([info]ladyrogue) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-06-21 11:12:00
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Jackass is a fandom, right?
So obviously we all know that Ryan Dunn from "Jackass" was killed in a horrible car crash early yesterday morning. And many family members, friends, and fans are in mourning right now. But then Roger Ebert had to speak up. Needless to say, many are pissed at his insensitivity.

Sadly, I kind of figured something like this was going to happen considering the stunts "Jackass" is known for (and we all remember the "Steve Irwin had it coming" wank), but still... that doesn't excuse Ebert's words at all.

Beware the comments in the MSN article, they are just as bad as Ebert's original tweet.

ETA: I would normally agree with the comments here as well, except that the police haven't actually confirmed that he was drunk. If it turns out that that's what happened, that's one thing. But... I'd rather wait to find out the results before I agree with one side or the other.

ETA 2: Apparently Ebert has apologized to Dunn's family and friends saying he tweeted too soon. From People.com

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[info]eleutheria
2011-06-23 10:14 am UTC (link)
but that doesn't give him free reign to say whatever whenever

Unless it's in violation of the TOS or the law, yes it does. That's exactly what I'm arguing it does.

Just like you (and the people who didn't like what he said) have a right to criticize him for it.

My thing is there's a difference between saying that, and saying "muzzle yourself if you're going to say something that hurts me" to someone in their own space where you are not intrinsically a part of that space (I'm splitting a hair here, but if you know someone on your flist is going to be hurt by what you're saying, filter that shit, because you've got something of an obligation to them). Ebert is arguing that he didn't intend his statement to offend, he intended it to be true. He thought telling people not to drink and drive was important enough to say no matter what. He has that right. And if he doesn't, that's not an internet I want any part of.

No, it's not to say that I haven't thought "that person should never have said that" and hell, that I haven't said that. It's just... one public figure making another public figure uncomfortable doesn't meet any sniff test I could devise for when you get to police someone else's space.

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