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hide our sins, it's different if it's my friend, misconceptions about feminism, rape culture, schedule your rape accusations, sj means never having to say you're sry, social justice, transfail

Heartbreak & Heroines
Kynn created a RPG called Heartbreak & Heroines, and used Kickstarter to get $3000 in funding in 48 hours. Over on LJ, Jack posted his response to his ex's success, in two minds because he's glad someone he knows did something cool, Kynn raped him. A couple days later, alexandraerin posts as well, expressing dismay at Kynn's behavior.

Jack posts Tweets from Kynn and later, emails,. At some point, the Kickstart for the RPG is canceled.

Some responses are laudable. Others, not so much.

ETA: Kynn tried to get a new name on RPG post-ban.

ETA2: Elf has a post about it.

ETA3: Kynn denies the rape happened.

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	jackandahat 2011-08-01 03:57 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, nothing excuses it in any situation. I think I'm just getting cranky because there's already enough "Oh noes, BDSM causes rape!" without BDSM being dragged into cases where it's not involved - and on top of that, while a lot of people are saying "That's not how it works", there are people dragging it in to cloud the water and discredit Jack. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

menthodelic
2011-08-01 05:12 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, I definitely get that. I'm just worried that if person A says, "It happened because it was a BDSM relationship" and person B says, "It WASN'T a BDSM relationship", what's implied is that if it had been a kinky relationship then person A's point would be valid. Which it wouldn't.

Person B needs to be saying, "Actually, this relationship didn't have BDSM elements, but even if it did, that wouldn't excuse what Kynn did. Rape isn't tolerated in the BDSM communities and her behaviour would still be horrible if it had been a kink situation."

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	jackandahat 2011-08-01 06:19 pm UTC (link)
	That's fair enough. I figured all the people saying "That's not how it works in BDSM" would be enough. (Reply to this)(Parent)

mefan
2011-08-01 08:39 pm UTC (link)

I certainly hope you're not directing that at me. I never said that BDSM causes rape. I never implied that BDSM causes rape. I said that people who are not aware of the nuances of BDSM have no business involving themselves in a D/s relationship. I said this under the assumption that the relationship mentioned above was a D/s relationship and that one partner was saying they were raped and the other was saying that there had been no intention. I then also mentioned that intention or not, rape is rape.

I would never condemn a lifestyle that I myself practice as something that causes harm, trauma, rape, etc., etc.

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	jackandahat 2011-08-01 08:46 pm UTC (link)
	I said "People", not "mefan". There are a lot of people being dickheads. I did not say you were one of them. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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