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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-07-29 16:47:00


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Entry tags:hide our sins, it's different if it's my friend, misconceptions about feminism, rape culture, schedule your rape accusations, sj means never having to say you're sry, social justice, transfail

Heartbreak & Heroines
Kynn created a RPG called Heartbreak & Heroines, and used Kickstarter to get $3000 in funding in 48 hours. Over on LJ, Jack posted his response to his ex's success, in two minds because he's glad someone he knows did something cool, Kynn raped him. A couple days later, alexandraerin posts as well, expressing dismay at Kynn's behavior.

Jack posts Tweets from Kynn and later, emails,. At some point, the Kickstart for the RPG is canceled.

Some responses are laudable. Others, not so much.

ETA: Kynn tried to get a new name on RPG post-ban.

ETA2: Elf has a post about it.

ETA3: Kynn denies the rape happened.



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[info]mefan
2011-08-01 08:46 pm UTC (link)
No it's not. The rape had nothing to do with BDSM. It wasn't about any kind of confusion -- not that it would be anyway, that's at best a pathetic excuse (or, rather, lie).

Never said it did.

Rapists rape because they like to rape people. It's not sex or kinky sex or being a dom or playing out fantasies they want, they want to rape.

I would agree, although there was a lot of intent discussion going on, which is where my comments stem from. My point was to say that rape is still rape regardless of the intent of the perpetrator. If the victim says "no" and really means "no" but the perpetrator really believes that "no" means "yes" then that is STILL rape.

And fantasy ravishment does not always have to be planned out in intricate detail, particularly in long-term relationships. This is why safe words exist and why the dom is always checking, in both subtle and not-so-subtle ways, that the sub is enthusiastically participating.

Perhaps, but it's super risky territory. Granted, as I stated above, I find non-con fantasy personally distasteful, so all of my perceptions about it are going to be biased.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-08-02 12:08 am UTC (link)
Perhaps, but it's super risky territory.

No it isn't.

You confess to finding it "distasteful". Fine, whatever, that's your prerogative. But since you don't do it and find it "distasteful", please stop trying to 'splain how it works.

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[info]mefan
2011-08-02 07:38 am UTC (link)
Yes, actually, it is. At least in my opinion. In your opinion it isn't. Fair point.

Also, while you're asking me to "please stop trying to 'splain how it works" I'll ask the same of you -- please stop making assumptions about me, my comments and my experiences. I said that I find it distasteful and that I don't do it, not that I have no experience relating to the subject whatsoever.

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[info]ekaterinv
2011-08-02 08:32 am UTC (link)
You're making a blanket statement that it is "super risky territory", with no qualifiers whatsoever. You are telling me that something I do regularly with my partner (and which you do not do and which you dislike) is "super risky", when it is not. If you were to say that it would be for you, or that you believe it would be for most people, I would have no quarrel with you. But you are trying to claim something which is factually incorrect about my sex life here.

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