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	esorlehcar 2011-08-02 01:00 am UTC (link)
	Another charming victim-blaming post, with a lot of bonus whining about how MEAN everyone was to the poor author when all she did was suggest that victim was clearly lying and probably a sockpuppet: http://ravan.dreamwidth.org/539471.html?format=light (Reply to this)(Thread)

	duraniedrama 2011-08-02 01:40 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, it's just awful when people spout inflammatory terms like 'rape culture' in situations that are practically textbook cases of it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	dere 2011-08-02 02:15 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, same person who came charging into elf's post all cui bono (who profits?) and shit, like no one ever thought to read for content and weigh the situation before speaking out about it. Because if you have an opinion that differs from theirs, you obviously weren't thinking about it. Rage-y goodness. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jackandahat 2011-08-02 02:24 am UTC (link)
	And has now come back with a different tone (in the second post) and keeps replying to people's comments like she never went off on everyone. Apparently she saw Kynn's post and graciously decided it was both parties' faults, not "just Jack". (Reply to this)(Parent)

sunhawk
2011-08-02 02:30 am UTC (link)

She also posted here:

http://elf.dreamwidth.org/436139.html?thread=5991595#cmt5991595

And summed up the rape situation as "fucked up relationship is fucked up drama relationship" - well I wonder why people are telling her that she's perpetuating rape culture, could it possibly be because SHE IS??? Noooo....surely not....

The way she continues to try to suggest that Jack was equally at fault and it's just freaky strange BDSM relationship "drama" is just disgusting. Saying stuff like this:

"My gut said "WTF, bail out!" for both of them - they seemed to be feeding off of each other."

"Right now I really think they all are in serious need of professional help.

Just.... Ewww."

"Truthfully, I don't have warm fuzzy feelings about any of them right now, probably due to some of my issues with passive-aggressive manipulation, emotional herding, and that type of emotional garbage that hits my buttons. But that's my problem."

"So I tend to question the motives of people who want to tear down someone who is fighting for things I believe in, even if that person does, ultimately, turn out to be a troubled person who doesn't respect boundaries and gets into nasty, messy, screwed up, abusive relationships, or even turns out to be a genuine douchebag in their personal life.

Because piling on feels like giving aid and comfort to the enemy, even when the person in question really needs a cold dose of reality to the face. "

All of this weasel "they are both equally to blame" phrasing turns my stomach.

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	kumquat_of_doom 2011-08-02 02:48 am UTC (link)
	... twitches If only I could find a way to use a Baseball Bat of +5 Feminism through the internet... (Reply to this)(Parent)

kaesa
2011-08-02 03:05 am UTC (link)

Yeah, those phrases read to me as if ravan is saying "well he's not acting totally rational, so he might have let himself be raped."

You know a totally good reason someone might not act rational or the way "normal" people "should" act? If they've been ABUSED AND/OR RAPED by someone they once trusted and had feelings for, and their RAPIST is confronting them about it, blaming them, and threatening suicide! And if they're doing the best they can to keep themselves functional in a totally fucked up situation they should never have had to go through!

JUST A THOUGHT.

I spent the weekend reading through this shit and SO MUCH RAGE HERE.

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	sepiamagpie 2011-08-02 03:11 am UTC (link)
	Ew ew ew ew ew. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kita0610 2011-08-02 04:10 am UTC (link)
	What a disgusting attempt at playing a human being. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sepiamagpie 2011-08-03 06:41 pm UTC (link)
	DW really needs a notes feature. I settled for pre-emptively banning in the strange circumstance she ever tried to speak to me. Sort of like how one would keep a stake in case of vampire attack. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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