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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2011-08-18 00:55:00
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Neo_prodigy silences a feminist critic
Over at LJ's inclusive_geeks community, korinna posts about neo_prodigy's misogyny, not only in his personal posts, but in his How To Write Slash posts and his published novel. She includes a large document of examples of his misogyny from the latter. Tee document can be downloaded here.

Why do you have to download it?

Because neo_prodigy responded like all good professionals to criticism and had LJ suspend the post, and when it was transferred to Wordpress, had that suspended as well..

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[info]sandglass
2011-08-18 08:16 am UTC (link)
Ha, I was just thinking about posting this.

N_P claimed that Korinna was threatening him and his family, too.

And here's the SF_drama post about his book [there is triggering content there, but it's warned for generally], which he was claiming was somehow an inclusive look at gender and sexuality. Despite being enormously sexist.

He makes my skin crawl.

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[info]phosfate
2011-08-18 02:17 pm UTC (link)
“Alone in the room, my curiosity got the better of me. Besides, what harm was there in “casually” observing anything that might be on the desk? There were no pictures so I had no clue as to what this guy looked like. On his desk sat a sleek black laptop, various car and sports magazines and an assortment of classic literary novels as well as Shang Tzu’s The Art of War. Writer, philosopher, and legendary bad boy, he was going to be a handful.”

Did the "classic literary novels" and the copy of Art of War still have the $4.95 stickers from B&N's front table?

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[info]fernmonkey
2011-08-18 03:45 pm UTC (link)
I'm assuming that this particular Art of War is some kind of Clancyesque escapist milporn thriller.

You know, on account of how the classic Chinese military-strategy text was actually written by Sun Tzu.

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[info]sandglass
2011-08-18 07:28 pm UTC (link)
Also he got Sun Tzu's name really wrong.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-08-18 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Philosopher my ass. I hate the cliche of showing how intelligent and well-read your character is by name-dropping important books the author's probably never cracked (or in this case, couldn't be bothered to actually name). I've got the complete works of Freud on my bookshelf, but I bought them for a class and never read them all the way through. That doesn't mean I am a psychology master. It just means I own books.

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[info]phosfate
2011-08-18 08:05 pm UTC (link)
"Nice books!"
"Thanks. I bought them in a pile off Etsy. I liked the vintage twine."

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[info]frequentmouse
2011-08-18 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Reading all of Freud's major works is probably the least useful thing I've ever done.

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[info]seiberwing
2011-08-18 10:38 pm UTC (link)
It was supposed to be "perspectives in social sciences". So we got Marxism, Rational Choice, some other stuff mostly directed at the historians and anthropologists, then they remember there's psychologists in the crew and throw in Psychoanalysis because hey it's not like nobody's used that in fifty years.

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[info]mmanurere
2011-08-18 11:11 pm UTC (link)
To be fair, while Freud is crap as psychology (compared to developments since), he's great as a case study in "making shit up without noticing or have other people noticing you're making shit up because it fits enough of their preconceived notions and you tie it all together into a Great Big Important Narrative." Freud will probably be relevant in literature and cultural-studies classes long after his only interest to psychology people is as a historical figure.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2011-08-18 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Now I'm imagining a portrait of him next to a phrenology map and an explanation of the four humours.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2011-08-19 01:22 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]innervoice_chan, 2011-08-19 09:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2011-08-19 05:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2011-08-20 12:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxfordcomma, 2011-08-30 05:29 am UTC

[info]frequentmouse
2011-08-18 11:45 pm UTC (link)
Long ago in the dawning days of the Nixon administration I was in an Evergreen program called "Freud and Jung an Approach to the Humanities" wherein we spent the first quarter neatly divided between reading Freud and then Jung.

It was more than a little mind-numbing.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2011-08-19 12:03 am UTC

[info]napalmnacey
2011-08-19 09:17 am UTC (link)
I was seeing a psychiatrist to get help with my post-sexual assault trauma. He actually brought out the Freud. And I'm not talking the obscure stuff.

He ASKED ME ABOUT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER. You know, scant weeks after I was ASSAULTED.

So I have a huge hate-on for Freud now. It's probably irrational but I can't help it.

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[info]napalmnacey
2011-08-19 09:19 am UTC (link)
I should add that my father had nothing to do with my assault. I was assaulted by some dude I knew in my social circle.

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(no subject) - [info]sadisticferret, 2011-08-19 05:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tofuknight, 2011-08-31 05:31 pm UTC

[info]female_fanboy
2011-08-21 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Ah, Freud. I swear, sometimes I wonder if my psych major's only use* is as a license to go "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!" when a show tries to be smart by bringing up Freud's theories.

*Alternative uses include explaining the difference (or rather, not-difference) between sociopathy and psychopathy, correcting people's use of the word "psychotic," and playing armchair psychology with fictional characters. Watching Durarara!! is so much more fun when you realize Shizuo has Intermittent Explosive Disorder and Izaya's a case study in why psychology researchers have to run every study by an ethics board nowadays.

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[info]full_metal_ox
2011-08-19 01:11 am UTC (link)
I hate the cliche of showing how intelligent and well-read your character is by name-dropping important books the author's probably never cracked (or in this case, couldn't be bothered to actually name).

And--to be expected of authors themselves unread in the subjects in question-- almost invariably dogpaddling within the Small Reference Pool.

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[info]cleolinda
2011-08-19 01:59 am UTC (link)
Is this related to the "here are my favorite books; appparently I never read anything outside of high school English" thing?

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[info]seiberwing
2011-08-19 02:18 am UTC (link)
"I'm in high school and not very interested in education but Dracula is my favorite book!" Yeah, the abridged edition, maybe.

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[info]full_metal_ox
2011-08-20 12:05 am UTC (link)
Is this related to the "here are my favorite books; appparently I never read anything outside of high school English" thing?

That's actually not the worst-case scenario--it could be born of a "I snoozed through high-school English and based my reports on Cliff's Notes, but there are certain works that I keep seeing referenced in the media, so why not use those, since they're obviously the gold standard?" thing. Therefore, psychology equals Freud (perhaps Jung if you want to establish that your character is learned enough to have two whole points of reference); classical music equals Beethoven; painting equals the Mona Lisa and Picasso; literature equals Shakespeare.

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(no subject) - [info]full_metal_ox, 2011-08-23 11:37 pm UTC

[info]silrana
2011-08-19 11:20 am UTC (link)
You just reminded me of years ago when I first visited the house of my husband's sister and her family. I asked her about the books arranged on part of a set of shelves, because they didn't seem like her cuppa. Turns out the books were selected by a decorator for how they looked. Nobody in the house had ever opened them.

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[info]full_metal_ox
2011-08-20 12:21 am UTC (link)
That's why those old hardbound Reader's Digest Condensed Books are often sold by the foot--as an element of decor, without regard to their contents. (Note that the price Wonder Books demands is a steep one; thrift shops tend to carry them at three or four to the dollar.)

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[info]silrana
2011-08-20 01:07 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I've seen that sort of thing, but these were modern novels so that didn't leap to mind. They were selected because their dust jackets matched the colors used in the room.

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[info]qem_chibati
2011-08-24 02:39 pm UTC (link)
:( *liked the readers digest books when growing up. They were cheap to buy one out of the three stories was usually good.*

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[info]zara_zero
2011-08-26 03:29 pm UTC (link)
My mother house- and dog-sits for rich people, and the house she's usually in when I visit seems to be made up of 80% Reader's Digest Condensed Books and the same oversized gilt-framed mirror. It makes me feel like I'm stuck in The Sims.

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[info]sandglass
2011-08-20 03:11 am UTC (link)
You can't see it, but I am making a horrified look right now.

Obviously, the most attractive books are really old, cheap, and look awful. Then they smell wonderful.

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[info]full_metal_ox
2011-08-24 12:02 am UTC (link)
There's a high-end designer perfume called Dzing! that contains leather and paper/cardboard notes; many users describe it as smelling of old libraries.

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(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2011-08-30 12:21 pm UTC

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