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ninwhore
2011-09-30 02:02 am UTC (link)

Someone pointed out that women not only seem to be getting the most changes and I thought that was pretty accurate. I mean, we're getting new 'sexy' versions left and right. I'm a little afraid for Spoiler now. But oh wait she's a 'Bat' so she'll be pretty safe. Oh and speaking of, let's not even get started on just how fucked the timeline is now. Every event with 'Crisis' in it's name happened and so did Batman RIP and Blackest night.

All within ten years. THAT DOESN'T WORK. Lets not even get into how some of those events had a lot to deal with relationships between the characters (ESPECIALLY Identity Crisis) which are now gone.

I just... It's amazing just how badly they've fucked this up. At least I still have Rage Kitty.

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	bemysty 2011-09-30 03:48 am UTC (link)
	> But oh wait she's a 'Bat' so she'll be pretty safe. That's also a point that bugged me - they call it the New 52, but how many of these books are Batman family-related again? I remember scrolling down a list of proposed titles a while ago and just going （　´_ゝ`） when the third Batman book showed up. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ninwhore
2011-09-30 04:18 am UTC (link)

It's not just Batman. Green Lantern is unchanged which, as much as a fan of the Rainbow Lanterns, is a bit of an eye raise. I can forgive them a little though because, like I said, there's Rage Kitty. That and I think there's a lot more potential for awesome females than what's on Earth.

(Let's just ignore what the stupid in Green Latern though. I'll just stick with Corps and the other titles)

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	bemysty 2011-09-30 04:45 am UTC (link)
	I have to admit I'm a bit more lenient regarding the GL books because there've been periods with no GL books whatsoever - which is decidedly not the case with Bats. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ninwhore
2011-09-30 05:00 am UTC (link)

That too. But I also think they could actually give DC that whole 'Diversity' thing they keep promising and not living up to. They can literally have any character they want with any sort of background and just say 'They're an alien that's just how their species works'

Now if we could just get more less 'human' aliens I'd be pleased (No DC, giving a person a different skin tone does not an alien make)

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	bemysty 2011-09-30 05:27 am UTC (link)
	But that would be haaaaaaaaard. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ninwhore 2011-09-30 06:05 am UTC (link)
	I just want a female alien that's not a mammal and I want her to NOT HAVE BOOBS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD (Reply to this)(Parent)

	skypirate 2011-09-30 06:36 pm UTC (link)
	On the other hand, there's the Dark section books, which really ARE something different (like those proto-Vertigo books). But, we could've had those without screwing over so many minority characters in other books. :( (Reply to this)(Parent)

	obsidianwolf 2011-09-30 04:14 am UTC (link)
	Are you sure it's ten years? The Justice league flashback says Five years for the founding of the Justice League. So that means even if Batman and the other heroes were operating on their own for five years all the crap that still happened that the Justice league was involved in is now crammed into five years. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hallidae 2011-09-30 04:32 am UTC (link)
	But they've also said Bruce is still only thirty-five. Which... including all his training and the time he worked alone (because Morrison is still writing in his "everything counted!" style) means he went through, like, a Robin a year or something, since all but Steph are still canon. WTF. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ninwhore 2011-09-30 04:38 am UTC (link)
	On that note Steph being shoehorned out was bullshit. Everything else happened except Steph? Really? DC is not a fan of their females in the Batfam. Except Barbra as Batgirl of course!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	skypirate 2011-09-30 06:33 pm UTC (link)
	Apparently Bruce has been around for ten years, but publicly for about five years. Which means they reinstituted the ridiculous Urban Legend!Batman, haha. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	obsidianwolf 2011-10-02 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah that entire idea never worked but it is one of those ones like evil being inherited that just keeps sticking around in DC. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ninwhore 2011-09-30 04:35 am UTC (link)
	Yup, that's what they've said. The heroes (Or at least Batman) were solo for 5 years, the League was formed, and then everything else happened in a five year period leading up until the new stories. It's incredibly stupid. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2011-10-01 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	But oh wait she's a 'Bat' so she'll be pretty safe. Yeah, she'll just get fridged. Again. (Reply to this)(Parent)

taichara
2011-10-03 06:59 pm UTC (link)

I have some bad news.

DC has so totally fragged anything resembling continuity, and are being so slapdash about what is actually included, that DiDio just over the weekend stated that now all the Crises, etc are struck from continuity.

How that's going to affect, oh, just about everything -- especially the Bat books and the Lantern books, the ones DC left relatively untouched -- is absolutely mindbending.

They're shooting themselves in the foot faster than they can reload.

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	hallidae 2011-10-04 10:29 pm UTC (link)
	...whu- how the fuck is Jason even alive, then?! And that's just for starters. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	taichara 2011-10-04 11:52 pm UTC (link)
	The only thing I can theorize is that they're going with a pure toss-him-in-the-Pit explanation. Alas, not everything is as "easily" explained as Jason ... (Reply to this)(Parent)

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