Current mood:

Boggled

Tolerate my (friends) intolerance.
So. bad_rpers_suck.

I know, I know. Fish, barrel. Hives of scum and villainy.

Fair warning; I am in the BRPS threads, making a couple of choice comments, but I decided to go with unfunny_fandom over i_wank due to... Well. Unfunny.

wolfwonderess is not happy. Cruising for RP, she comes upon a RPG Site with some... very special rules.

wolfwonderess comes across an RP site with a jarring ruleset that explicitly spells out that homosexual relations are not like other relations. Or, in their words

"[009];; Homosexual characters are allowed in the main role-play with the same limitations as heterosexual characters. However, if you plan to role-play a homosexual character with somebody, you must discuss it with them beforehand and respect any limits they may impose upon you, whether this means no sexual advances or no homosexual characters period. Spoiler tags must be used if a post includes any sort of physical, homosexual interaction. Minor flirting allowed without tags."

When Wolfwonderess points out that, hey, this is kinda offensive, she's told that, no it totally isn't, because there are two religious members on the board who're uncomfortable with homosexuality and besides, there used to be a NO HOMO rule before, so this is actually a compromise and besides one of the mods is pansexual, so there's totally no bigotry here.

Originally, I was going to let this one slide for a number of reasons; it's not really unusual to see people making games with stupid rules, I wasn't aware of the site link, and so forth, and so on.

But this thing just won't stop.

From site members supporting Wolfwonderess in personal messages, to an invite to come discuss the issue in the site's cbox - apparently from either a staff member or one of the people bothered by homoesxuality, if I read it correctly.

Not so much; the convo got the cbox shut down, and then it spilled on over to RPG-Directory - it's cut short, though.

Then Wolfwonderess has an earnest chat with the admin via PM, which she puts up on GoogleDocs. The pertinent point?

When Wolfwonderess asks "would you let them include a limit like "I won't RP with black characters"?"

The answer was "Yes, yes, I would."

Of course, beyond just complaining on her deviantart account (and getting a counter-complaint), the admin has also been shifting the rule. You'd think that just removing any references to sexuality at all would fix the issue (maybe rewrite it a little so it doesn't look weird), but no. It keeps morphing. And despite attempts to get "better" at this whole "compromise" thing... It doesn't.

I'm not going to troll the wank. I'm not going to go on their site, or RPG-D, or deviantart and yell at them.

I am going to make sure that my friends and acquaintances stay away, though.

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	chikane 2012-02-01 02:44 pm UTC (link)
	It's sadly still pretty common, yeah. And the amount of evidence that is sometimes asked is absurd, too. I'm pretty sure that a character who keeps fantasizing about a same-sex character without clothes, and who kissed that character on the lips, should be considerable as gay. Not enough for some people, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	varkias 2012-02-01 03:10 pm UTC (link)
	....what. Seriously, what the fuck. In what universe could that possibly be not enough? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

chikane
2012-02-01 09:55 pm UTC (link)

Well, the LJ RP universe, where "I am uncomfortable with gay people" and "gay people don't need support" is an acceptable, non-homophobic thing to declare on a day where gay bullying suicides made headlines on every american news site, enough that even I as an european got wind of it.

And that stuff? Was part of the argument that this person had it really, really bad since people were calling her homophobic for her attitudes. Poor her, the true victim. If only we overly PC gay bullies wouldn't judge her.

Seriously, I found it surprisingly hard to find games lacking people like that. There's a lot of homophobia around.

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ekaterinv
2012-02-01 11:10 pm UTC (link)

There seem to be a surprisingly large (to me) number of bigots in RPing generally. And then there are the people who enable them, because of the whole geek fallacies thing.

My fiance is in an ongoing argument with someone on an RP-based board that ties into this. The person he's arguing with is claiming that all opinions have exactly the same amount of merit and that we should treat all of them equally.

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	the_hierodule 2012-02-02 12:24 am UTC (link)
	I believe that's what's referred to (as noted in the BRPS threads) as being so open-minded [their] brains fall out. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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