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roachspit (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} roachspit) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} unfunny_fandom, |
Okay, let's do this thing.
I'm just wondering why nobody is going after the Simpsons...
Then write a post about the Simpsons. This is a MLP post. Switching from one to the other without a logical segue is derailing. Derailing is bad.
Also, how do people feel about dis/differently-abled people saying they liked the character as she was and felt she was a symbol for them in the fact that despite her being different, she was a MLP all the same and loved equally by all the other ponies, that "fixing" her was erasing their identity and saying people who are dis/differently-abled shouldn't be seen, let alone heard?
If you had read the earlier comments, you would already know how people feel about this. If the choices are, "You can be represented, but only in a disrespectful way," or, "You won't be represented at all," most people have chosen no representation over disrespectful representation. We feel that those should not be the only choices; respectful representation is ideal.
Also, we are not operating under a utilitarian ethical system. If something offends one reasonable person, then it has offended too many people. If those five people over there are not offended, this does not mean that it's still okay to offend the three over here. Ideally, no one should be offended.
How many people in this fight are personally dis/differently-abled or personally have dis/differently-abled relatives who expressed a negative opinion of the character's original nature/look...
One, it's none of your business if a random stranger on the Internet is a PWD. Two, if you had read the earlier comments, you'd have seen several community members self-identify as people with disabilities.
...versus being white hats out to save people...
No one is white knighting here. We are simply attempting to be decent, respectful human beings.
...people who, as many seem to have posted, don't feel they need or want saving of this kind?
Many who seem to have posted where? Because the people with disabilities who have commented on this post have largely wanted respect, not "saving." They aren't helpless, they are being disrespected--and you are not helping.
For the record, I'm neither a brony nor have I seen a single episode of the show. I'm just trying to understand all sides of this.
People who want respect and the people who recognize that they deserve respect vs. people who don't want to give them respect and instead want to mock them without being called on it. What about that is so hard to understand?
I came in way too early to the comments thread, especially as someone who doesn't know the show or it's demographics.
Yeah. Work on that for next time, okay?
I'm just wondering why nobody is going after the Simpsons...
Then write a post about the Simpsons. This is a MLP post. Switching from one to the other without a logical segue is derailing. Derailing is bad.
Also, how do people feel about dis/differently-abled people saying they liked the character as she was and felt she was a symbol for them in the fact that despite her being different, she was a MLP all the same and loved equally by all the other ponies, that "fixing" her was erasing their identity and saying people who are dis/differently-abled shouldn't be seen, let alone heard?
If you had read the earlier comments, you would already know how people feel about this. If the choices are, "You can be represented, but only in a disrespectful way," or, "You won't be represented at all," most people have chosen no representation over disrespectful representation. We feel that those should not be the only choices; respectful representation is ideal.
Also, we are not operating under a utilitarian ethical system. If something offends one reasonable person, then it has offended too many people. If those five people over there are not offended, this does not mean that it's still okay to offend the three over here. Ideally, no one should be offended.
How many people in this fight are personally dis/differently-abled or personally have dis/differently-abled relatives who expressed a negative opinion of the character's original nature/look...
One, it's none of your business if a random stranger on the Internet is a PWD. Two, if you had read the earlier comments, you'd have seen several community members self-identify as people with disabilities.
...versus being white hats out to save people...
No one is white knighting here. We are simply attempting to be decent, respectful human beings.
...people who, as many seem to have posted, don't feel they need or want saving of this kind?
Many who seem to have posted where? Because the people with disabilities who have commented on this post have largely wanted respect, not "saving." They aren't helpless, they are being disrespected--and you are not helping.
For the record, I'm neither a brony nor have I seen a single episode of the show. I'm just trying to understand all sides of this.
People who want respect and the people who recognize that they deserve respect vs. people who don't want to give them respect and instead want to mock them without being called on it. What about that is so hard to understand?
I came in way too early to the comments thread, especially as someone who doesn't know the show or it's demographics.
Yeah. Work on that for next time, okay?
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