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Ha-chan ([info]agent_hyatt) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2012-02-26 16:49:00


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Lessons from bronies: Removing ableist stereotypes is intolerant!
Remember the backlash when an episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic portrayed fan-favorite Ditzy/"Derpy" as "humorously" mentally challenged? Well, the concerns were heard, and the voice changed!

Aaaaand now some bronies are crying "ruined FOREVER!". To the tune of "not liking our insensitivity is intolerant!"

So, everyone who can now watch the clip without cringeing, you're harshing someone's squee, and that's terrible.


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[info]anarchicq
2012-02-27 05:20 pm UTC (link)
I realize that. I am disabled as well, I have (Among many other things) Coloboma in my right eye and it is malformed and "lazy". If I had seen this pony when I was a kid I would have been all kinds of "WOOHOO! Pony be representin'!" because she looks like me. When I was a kid, the 'disabled kid' was always in a wheelchair. That wasn't me. But we're adults and we're projecting our own sense of morals and right or wrong and things onto a kid's cartoon. And instead of having the chance in the future to do an episode about disability, giving both Hasbro a chance to redeem themselves, and a hopefully good episode AND and episode where this pony gets character development, the whole issue was swept under the rug.

I was merely saying that I have less to comment about the killing off gay characters argument because I am not gay. It is not my place.

How is it dismissive to have a differing point of view and different values? I did not dismiss her, I tried to continue with calm debate but she was the one who said STFU and "LOL NO". Those are attacks, not debate or discussion.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-02-27 05:45 pm UTC (link)
I'm gonna start straight off that I want her to keep the eye. The eye is neat.

But the rest of it, the voice, the name, no. That was unacceptable, and if they were pandering to the people about the name in the first place, I really truly doubt you would have ever gotten that episode.

Sorry for misunderstanding the gay thing, though. I took it to mean the whole issue.

I'm not gonna speak for Sandglass. But from the perspective of the guy who's already in a bad mood over this (too many rape threats for one morning) it looked a lot like... actually, nevermind. I'm sleepy and I'm just gonna fall over my own tongue. I did like what Zoom said though! His comments made sense to me.

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[info]roachspit
2012-02-27 05:58 pm UTC (link)
But we're adults and we're projecting our own sense of morals and right or wrong and things onto a kid's cartoon.

No. We're adults and we're applying our own sense of morals and right and wrong and things to the adults who create and/or watch a kid's cartoon. Cartoons do not just magically appear out of the void. Grownups make 'em. Some grownups watch 'em. The least they can do is create and/or engage in fandom in a non-hurtful way.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-02-27 06:01 pm UTC (link)
"Aye, tis been a good cartoon harvest," said Old Jim as he put down his basket full of bouncing Transformers episodes plucked from the wild cartoon bushes that grew along the north wall.

His daughter, Marianna, nodded in agreement, pushing an escaping pony episode plucked from the orchard back into her basket.

The children would be entertained that season.

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[info]phosfate
2012-02-27 06:04 pm UTC (link)
"Pa, this pony episode has a big moldy spot on it. Should I cut it off?"

"Nay, lass, the children won't notice. Leave it."

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[info]roachspit
2012-02-28 02:32 am UTC (link)
I love you. :)

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-02-27 06:02 pm UTC (link)
Also, that argument makes sense if we're talking about, say, myths from thousands of years ago, not something made last year.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-02-27 06:03 pm UTC (link)
Man, see how sleepy I am? I forgot to call you on half your shit.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-02-27 10:39 pm UTC (link)
Because kids' cartoons are a moral-free zone! Wheee!

It's dismissive because you don't even watch the show or know the background, and yet you keep arguing and arguing and arguing your opinion with people who do. You are ignorant of the facts and yet you want your opinion to have the same weight as the opinions of people who are not. Your tone toward Sandglass was dismissive and condescending -- you can be "calm" and still be a total douche.

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