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	sepiamagpie 2012-03-09 10:08 am UTC (link)
	No. I'm in a good book buzz and commissions finished for me mood. I can't look at those tweets and not want to set fire to fandom. I'm still cranky over 'how dare they cast an asian woman for Watson'. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	nursewretched 2012-03-09 04:56 pm UTC (link)
	Aw, Lucy Liu as Watson is the only interesting thing I've heard about the new show. I'm trying to remember, has there been a female Watson before? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2012-03-09 05:13 pm UTC (link)
	Joanne Woodward, Margaret Colin, others I can't remember because it's way too early. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aaron_agonistes 2012-03-09 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	Joanne Woodward was pretty much the only good thing about that movie, too. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2012-03-09 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you for sharing. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nursewretched 2012-03-10 04:32 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you. I may have to look into these other Watsons. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sepiamagpie 2012-03-10 06:10 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, that actually got me interested, 'cause Lucy Liu is awesome. Fandom: We want more women and more poc! Show: here's Lucy Liu as Watson Fandom: You're erasing the queer relationship between the two (presumably) straight white guys!/She doesn't look like Watson! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rosehiptea
2012-03-10 11:09 am UTC (link)

Yeah, that whole mess just depresses me and I'm not even in any of the fandoms for Sherlock Holmes adaptations.

I haven't watched much of Lucy Liu's stuff but it's so clear people are down on her because she's an Asian woman and not Martin Freeman.

(Watson looks like whatever you want him or her to look like, but if you want to watch a show with a white guy as Watson you have a huge variety to choose from. Jeez, people.)

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luxshine
2012-03-10 05:09 pm UTC (link)

some people love the idea of a PoC Watson. Or a lesbian Watson. Or anything but either white!Watson or Watson as a woman because it's the only way she can be a romantic interest for Holmes... just saying.

I don't doubt there are some people angry because she's not Martin Freeman, and some people who are being racist idiots about it, but it's not every single fan who complains who is like that.

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rosehiptea
2012-03-10 05:22 pm UTC (link)

I don't think every single fan complaining is a racist, so I'm sorry if I sounded like that. And I should have said "some people" for that reason, though I've seen quite a bit of "Watson looks like this" with pictures of Martin Freeman, so that's where I was coming from on that.

And I get that TV executives are going to make het couples and not gay couples and that sucks in general. I still can't help thinking that complaint about this specific show is a little misplaced, but that's me.

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luxshine
2012-03-10 06:26 pm UTC (link)

Oh don't worry. Maybe I was a bit oversensitive after the last three times the subject came up on F!S (Where of course, if you complain you're a racist, because it's not possible it's homophobic, and the complain that Liu!Watson is not a doctor and thus the show runners are diminishing the character is seen as sexist when we're complaining about the fact that she's not a doctor, not a she), and well.

Still, Watson looks like whatever the hell the reader/watcher wants, as you say, so I don't understand the Martin Freeman obsession (I like him, but I like Law's Watson a bit better)

I think the problem with this specific show is that people are immensely attached to the possibility that someone will finally have the guts to do a gay Sherlock/Watson openly, and then you've got a woman in the rol, who is not white, so you've got to decide... are you sexist/racist if you complain or homophobic if you don't complain? and no one wins with that attitude and... well, I'm amazed we haven't landed on Fandom Wank yet.