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honorh ([info]honorh) wrote in [info]unfunny_fandom,
@ 2012-03-08 21:50:00


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NEWS FLASH: In the future, we may not all be white!
The cast for the movie of The Hunger Games has been known for a while, but a certain segment of the fandom is having a hard time coming to terms with something about it: Namely, that Rue and Thresh, both described in the book as dark-skinned, will be played by African-American actors. Worse, so will Cinna, whose ethnicity isn't mentioned, and therefore must be white.

Hunger Games Tweets has been keeping its eye on some of the worse elements. Warning: Some extremely vile, racist language. Did you know that sweet, innocent girls must always be pale and fair-haired? And gay men can't be black? I'm telling you, it's an education.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go vomit.


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[info]luxshine
2012-03-11 03:03 am UTC (link)
I'm starting to think Tumbler is a hive of scum and villany. Since apparently, everyone who finds racist comments against Lucy Liu, finds them in Tumbler.

For me is more like TPTB made Watson a woman (But not an army doctor, of course) BECAUSE they didn't want more people reading that there could be a homoerotic subtext. That sort of bothers me a little. Especially since it's very probable that they will end up romantically involved and that sits really bad with me.

TL;DR version: I want a woc Watson. I just want her to be a kickass doctor who doesn't fall in love with Sherlock.

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[info]spacelogic
2012-03-12 02:18 am UTC (link)
Speaking as someone who likes Holmes but isn't really a fan, I agree. Making Watson a woman so as to pair her with Holmes manages to simultaneously erase the potential queerness of the original character and reinforce the old saw about how a man and a woman can never be simply friends.

Now, if they made Holmes a woman too? I'd watch the shit out of that.

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[info]luxshine
2012-03-12 05:43 am UTC (link)
I'd love a female!Holmes/female!Watson adaptation. I'd love it if they kept the potential queereness, I'd love it if they made them both straight, I'd love it in any possible ways.

I'd also love a nonwhite!Holmes, for a change. And a nonwhite!Watson.

I love adaptations of Holmes, as I love the canon. But this one... I just can't feel happy about it, and it has nothing to do with Miss Liu, who I'm sure will do her best with the role they gave her.

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[info]enrythe8th
2012-03-15 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I don't know, it seems to me that American television is just as okay with teasing gay with guy friends as British television is. In some cases (such as House and Scrubs) they're even more ostentatious about it.

What's so representative about potential queerness, anyway? If anything, the way Sherlock and John's relationship is portrayed in the BBC series strikes me as more homophobic. It's that whole "teasing gay" thing that bothers me, because it's a) meant to be funny, which is insulting the audience's intelligence and b) meant to be fanservice, which makes me embarrassed to be a fan, knowing that this kind of pandering is exactly what the writers/producers/etc think of their viewers.

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[info]melusina
2012-03-21 08:34 am UTC (link)
I agree with what you're saying for the most part, but the way things are now, a lot of the queer relationships on television are still primarily subtextual. Many of the characters who are portrayed as queer are usually walking stereotypes still, and (I feel like) the richest and most heartfelt relationships are often those that aren't outright portrayed as such. At least they're often more representative of my experience than other ones.

I do hate that Moffat (and Cumberbatch from what I've seen) tease gay in the show and then say "oh, nope, no queers here!" in interviews.

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